June 27, 2022

This is when everything changes ...


This transitonal episode explains how John finally came up with a new name for the podcast he records at his studio, Emo Dojo. What once started as Bipolar Style in 2016, is now Signal Drops in 2022. We cover podcast intro music (with examples), the evolution of a name, how to include guests, and more. 

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:06.160 This is where everything changes. Hey, it's John. So if you've been 2 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:10.919 listening for a long time, things are going to change, but not that 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:19.640 much to outsiders. Things will look way different to new people coming on than 4 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:26.440 they have in the past. For old listeners, I've been doing this particular 5 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.960 podcast, let's call it, basically putting the same audio files in the same 6 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:36.960 RSS feed, for about six years. Of changed host a number of times 7 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:42.280 and there's been a couple of spinoff podcasts, but generally speaking it's you, 8 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.280 it's the same folks, it's the same people that have been listening to me 9 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:49.560 John Podcast for a long time. So to you, I just wanted to 10 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:53.399 give you an update and let you know why I'm doing it, how I'm 11 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:58.000 doing it and what exactly I'm doing, because podcasting is really great hobby for 12 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.240 me. So I'm always taking the time to tweak and and fix things and 13 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.159 make things better and just kind of grow with it at some point. Well, 14 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:07.879 like I do this at work also. This is not my work podcast, 15 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.319 but I have a podcast for work which is much more commercial based and 16 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:17.079 geared toward a specific thing, which is to get people to come buy things 17 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.280 from our company. So that's different and then there are, of course, 18 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.400 podcast what's the whole purpose is? The podcast itself makes money by way of 19 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.200 advertising, which is a different thing, and I'm working on another project with 20 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:32.640 somebody else for that. All all that aside, this one that I've been 21 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:36.239 calling emo Dojo, for lack of a better name or lack of no name, 22 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:40.079 is my hobby podcast. So in the next twenty minutes or so we'll 23 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:45.280 go over some earlier examples of my intro music and how I changed the name 24 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:49.239 of this podcast a couple of times, the concept of the podcast, and 25 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.319 then I'll give you an update on where we're going moving forward, which, 26 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.719 like I said, it should be kind of fun and if you've been along 27 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:01.680 for the ride this long you'll probably enjoy where it's going moving forward. Cool. 28 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:07.319 So one last time let me drop this rock and roll, as they 29 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:19.800 call it, wrestling music, intro right here. I'll do that all right. 30 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:24.759 So that music is actually a file my friend gave me from some recording 31 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:31.120 sessions. It's original music by my longtime brother Ray. We grew up together. 32 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:34.879 His family took me in when I was kicked out of the house when 33 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:38.599 I was a fourteen. So it's kind of like my adopted family anyway. 34 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.560 So Yeah, Ray I, when I called him, I'm like, Dude, 35 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:44.400 I need some music, and I'll get to that in a second. 36 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:50.319 But Anyway, that's Ray levou out there in the bay area, San Francisco 37 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:57.439 area, rocking out. And that file is simply called another heavy thing and 38 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:01.039 I've been using it a lot often on because it's free. We don't have 39 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:06.639 to pay for we own the music. It's just there and I've got a 40 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:10.479 couple other tracks and that was my favorite one. But before that track and 41 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:15.879 before I just dropped the name that the show was originally called a bipolar style 42 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:22.159 to just the name of my studio, Emodojo, I've had other intros and 43 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.159 other different types of music and I was listening to some as I was cleaning 44 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:29.439 out my digital files the other day and it is a kind of a cool 45 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:34.000 little trip down memory lane. So this first one is interesting and I love 46 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.960 it. It kind of captures the whole essence of why I wanted to start 47 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.199 a podcast, including, you know, my ego and the rock and roll 48 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.479 and the bombastic intro and everything. The only downside was that it's just too 49 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:52.759 long when you produce a podcast that meant to be. You know, binged. 50 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:57.199 You got to have podcast intros that are short so they don't have to 51 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:00.560 hear the same fucking intro. You know, a minute long intro for a 52 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.080 fifteen minute long podcast its way too ridiculous. And the more I listen to 53 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:10.000 podcast, the more I'm thinking, man, intro should be next to nothing, 54 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:12.879 just the tone, just the note to remind me that I'm on the 55 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.079 right feed or whatever. But aside from that, the INTRO, it doesn't 56 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:20.079 need to be that long. That said, this was the very first intro 57 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:28.240 I put together for my podcast when it was called bipolars style. Give a 58 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:45.240 listen to this real quick. You don't understand. I could class, I 59 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:49.439 could have been a contemner, I could have been somebody. Dude, if 60 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.160 it's going to be that kind of part, I won't think my thinking about 61 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.120 Johnny. So it's pretty cool, right. It's kind of conveys the sense 62 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.360 of chaos and fun I'd like to try to have on the show. Maybe 63 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:13.040 if that was the theme song, then people would hear the type of show 64 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.519 I was trying to make. Anyway, it's still it's just too long. 65 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:20.959 It's too fucking long. So then, and I lived prior down right next 66 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:26.319 to skid row and downtown Los Angeles, and then I had moved up to 67 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.360 a section of San Francisco called the tenderloin, which is equally crazy, and 68 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.360 I've always had this dystopic view of how life was anyway. And one of 69 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:41.480 my favorite films is called Brazil by Terry Gilliam and the Intro Song from Brazil 70 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:46.759 was always fascinated to me when it's juxtaposed against the fucked up living conditions on 71 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:51.959 the streets right. So I went in and just whipped together a much shorter 72 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:57.399 kind of intro that sounded kind of weird and distopic. I don't know if 73 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.680 people understood it that way, but that's how I meant it, and it 74 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:08.680 sounded like this. Welcome back to bipolar style, the podcast for bipolar people 75 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:14.680 and those who love them. Join US online at by polar stylecom and now 76 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.759 use your host, Johnny emotion. So there's a lot going on there. 77 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:27.920 Obviously you can't use unlicensed, copyrighted music in any official capacity. So yeah, 78 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.560 that's kind of a strike there. I knew that when I was putting 79 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.680 it together, so it didn't really matter, but don't copy my example. 80 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:38.639 In that case. The upside though, or what I thought did work if 81 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:42.920 I had used original music, was the voice I bought from fiver, so 82 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:47.079 that Gal's voice. got that off of fiver and I think it costs me 83 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.439 like, I don't know, Fifty Bucks and I gave her like a twenty 84 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:53.399 five tip or something like that, and she read a whole bunch of lines. 85 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.160 I have a whole bunch of her talking like that, because you sounded 86 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:59.399 kind of like, well, not me. Sounds like a female's voice and 87 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.360 kind of upbeat and pleasant and something that might entice you to stay and listen 88 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.000 to a podcast if you heard that voice right. It also, I think, 89 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:12.759 represented my official commitment to using that nickname John Emotions, like that stage 90 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:17.319 named John Emotions. And Yeah, so that was that again. You know, 91 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.879 eventually I'm like, Ah Shit, I can't use license music if I 92 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.959 want this to grow, because I might get kicked off the platform for one 93 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:29.240 or might get this podcast episode muted or whatever. I did think I had 94 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.199 two good experience dance with fiver. So I went back to fiver and just 95 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:38.759 looked for somebody to do a fullblown podcast introduction or intro or whatever. Not 96 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:42.560 sure what I looked up, but you know, I literally look at and 97 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:49.399 listen to probably a hundred different five accounts trying to find something that I don't 98 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:54.040 know fit the mood I was going for or the vibe or something, and 99 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:58.000 then something just stood out. So, while this wasn't the first kind of 100 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.519 sound I was looking for, it really jumped out at me. It was 101 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.120 by a provider on a fiver called you STA, and I think he lives 102 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.759 up in the Nordic countries or something like that. Kind of a Swedish name, 103 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:16.199 Jooste your Sta. Anyway, this, if this were star wars, 104 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.959 this next intro would be the original episode for straight on Storm Trooper version all 105 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:33.600 that. It's only now it's online Bible. This stylecom emotions with Bible style. 106 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.759 That's a classic right. So, anyway, it really good and I 107 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.720 loved it. I started to have a kind of an identity crisis with the 108 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:48.639 show idea because of the name bipolar style. I originally called it bipolar style 109 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.080 because I don't like the word disorder, because there is no baseline order for 110 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.320 the quote unquote unbalanced chemicals. In your mind, there is no standard with 111 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:00.720 the chemicals something like. It's not actually this order. It's more of a 112 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.080 yes style. So I like the style part. However, it turns out 113 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:11.840 people don't like sharing things when you use the word bipolar. Not Ironically. 114 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.679 It's okay to say the weather's bipolar, Haha, funny memes and share all 115 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.080 that shit, but if you're actually talking about bipolar disorder, people don't like 116 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.039 to share that. So I started toying around with other interesting names. That 117 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.720 would means sword of the same thing, but they also were sort of the 118 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:35.279 same thing. So this first one was just me kind of riffing off the 119 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:43.759 Jackass intro and I was starting to call the show manic episodes. I'm John 120 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:50.879 with a bipolar style and these are the manic episodes. Yeah, so that 121 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.519 one makes me cringe a little bit now. However, it does capture a 122 00:09:54.600 --> 00:10:00.320 lot of the right ideas. So I had modified the name of the PODCAST 123 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.480 and I changed it up in the you know, Seo settings and all that, 124 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.600 the description for the show at the platform, and I was trying to 125 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.360 move away from the word bipolar right and I kept it nice and short and 126 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:16.000 I was also using original music and I just didn't like the way I just 127 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.159 come on there and was started off cold with I'm John, like who gives 128 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:26.480 a fuck, shut up, sit down. But clearly I was having issues 129 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.879 with the production of the show, not the production as much as the direction 130 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:37.320 of the show. Now, by this point I had moved to Louisiana and 131 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.279 I thought it might be a good idea to try to find a cohost, 132 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:46.200 which was utter disaster. And Strangely, the intro for that period kind of 133 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:52.200 sounds like a cluster fuck to it's a little bit of the original stormtrooper kind 134 00:10:52.200 --> 00:11:00.279 of intro mixed with a little bit of the another heavy thing from ray and 135 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:11.480 it just blas all together and it kind of sounded like this, it's our 136 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:18.879 Yad and now it's online at bi color soundcom. All right. So I 137 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:24.159 kind of had to cut that one short because the announcer then announces the cohost 138 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.840 name and we had a pretty bad falling out and I don't speak that person's 139 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.240 name now. But anyway, you could tell by the intro like as just 140 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.080 a message. Just look, let's blend all the shit together and one thing, 141 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.159 which it's not usually a good idea, hmm, but I tried to 142 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.159 make it work, at least in my hypomanic state of mind, I guess, 143 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:52.240 anyway. So I really liked another heavy thing, rays music. Oh 144 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:56.320 by the way, ray also played the music for the thing with hey you 145 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.320 guys. So basically that was re playing guitar that was read a Morano doing 146 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.080 the hey you guys on the earlier one, and then the clip from the 147 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:09.000 Marlon Brando movie and the Johnny Carson Guy Ed McMahon. Well, I just, 148 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.399 you know, stripped all that stuff away and went right back to another 149 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.480 heavy thing without any intro, and I thought that that was a lot cleaner. 150 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.399 It's the one you hear a lot past the year or so, which 151 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:31.080 is just this classic right here. So that's where we stand up till now, 152 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:37.320 with intro music and theme songs, if you will, but the whole 153 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.559 thing. So I mentioned it about a year ago. I was having troubled 154 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.480 like I don't know what I want to actually call the show, and I 155 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.879 just it wasn't a high priority. So I just said Emo Dojo. That's 156 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.480 actually the name of the studio I record in and I had always thought that 157 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.720 the show itself needed its own name and you know, kind of deserved its 158 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.080 own name eventually, if I came up with a good enough one, because 159 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.919 Emo Dojo is a killer name. For the studio Great Seo. You know 160 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.720 search engine optimization. If you look for Emo Dojo, it's like the first 161 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.159 page or two of results. That's fucking awesome. And it's also become the 162 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:15.519 number one bipolar disorder podcast for like a year running. And I don't mean 163 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.120 on the kind of APPs and little communities where you have to be voted by 164 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.919 your community. I'm talking by ones that are searched by domain authority and actual 165 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.440 domain traffic and downloads and things like that. So I appreciate that. It 166 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:35.639 doesn't really mean anything to me in the sense of like monetary compensation or anything 167 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:37.720 like that because, of course, if it's always been a hobby podcast, 168 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.639 and for the main reason is, who am I going to take money from? 169 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:48.879 I'm not taking money from pharmaceutical companies or therapy APP companies or anybody charging 170 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.679 my listeners a monthly fee for anything. I don't charge a feat so I'm 171 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.799 not going to take money from somebody else who was charging a fee for any 172 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:01.080 of that stuff. So inherently these type of shows don't make money, but 173 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.759 it's nice to know that the work you put into your hobby results in, 174 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.799 you know, you having a podcast that's well regarded in that sense. So, 175 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.919 as a hobbyist, I want a new challenge and I don't want to 176 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.440 keep talking about mental health and mental illness. I have a mental illness. 177 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.039 Why I don't want to keep talking about it. I'm and I've mentioned this 178 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.000 that several episodes of the past few years. It's just it brings you back 179 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.039 down. If I'm trying to live a normal life, I should focus on 180 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.519 normal life things, or at least fun things. Right. It doesn't all 181 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:37.120 have to be listening to the next person's story about I got depression and anxiety. 182 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:41.080 I got depression and anxiety, I got an anxiety and depression. I 183 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:46.000 mean will fuck okay, and people with the hardcore diseases, the bipolar, 184 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.279 the psychosis and things like that, they don't want to come talk about it 185 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.320 on a show like this and it's really hard to get anybody to open up 186 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.919 about that stuff. So all of the guests I've ever had running a show 187 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:03.960 called bipolar style or even Emo Dojo, you know, that's really brave thing 188 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:07.600 for them to do, to the speak up and share their their emotional problems 189 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.480 with the world. Anonymously or not, it's still a brave thing to do 190 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:16.519 and I appreciate them doing that and people have told me they appreciate me doing 191 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.000 it as well, like sharing my story. But whatever, we could do 192 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.639 more things on this particular show. If there's tons of other shows in the 193 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:26.759 past six years. Oh my God, there's so many other shows that are 194 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.960 basically the same fucking thing I've been doing all this time anyway. And since 195 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:35.559 I'm not like invited on their shows or in their little click, fine go. 196 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.080 You know, there's tons of other mental health podcasts to go listen to. 197 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.240 So let's make this one, our show, the one that I do 198 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:46.399 for you and that you've been listening to. Let's expand and do something else. 199 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:52.639 Let's listen and talk about different topics other than mental health. One of 200 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:58.600 my main concerns with getting guests for Mental Health podcasts was that you get people 201 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:04.000 that are not podcasters wanting to be guessed, so there's inevitably audio and technical 202 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:08.000 problems that you run into. Well, what we're going to do moving forward 203 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.960 is I'm going to have other podcasters come on and we're going to talk about 204 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:17.440 interesting topics and more of a round table kind of set up. So my 205 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:21.840 thought is to get three or four people on each episode a mixture of people, 206 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:27.519 different perspectives, different lifestyles, different backgrounds, talking about one common and 207 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.519 interesting topic. It'll be thought provoking but not provocative. I'm not trying to 208 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.159 roll anybody or, you know, put headlines or pay, you know, 209 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:42.840 just click bait type of episode titles, anything like that. It's more of 210 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:48.639 let just this ponder life's bigger questions so we can get to the heart of 211 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.679 the matter. And there's a lots of independent podcasters out there that show up 212 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:59.840 by themselves, get on a mic, record, edit, upload, promote, 213 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:03.000 they do the whole thing. They're doing that without any pay or anybody 214 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.079 else's help. Those of the people that I want to connect with and talk 215 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:10.119 about interesting topics, so they don't have to grind all week and just to 216 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.039 figure out what they got to do to keep an episode up. Well, 217 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.480 they can come on over to the EMO Dojo studio here. You know, 218 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:22.359 I vicariously through technology and we can record an episode about almost anything, as 219 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.039 long as it's interesting and uplifting. So, like I said, I was 220 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.319 talking about how hard it is to come up with a cool name. I 221 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:34.480 worked for naming companies and marketing firms in the past, so I take the 222 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:41.200 naming thing pretty seriously and there's no rush to name your podcast. In my 223 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.759 mind, this is all in just my perspective. So here's how I came 224 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.480 up with the names. Back many years ago, Gary, my friend, 225 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:55.240 my brother and one of my producers that I work with frequently because we went 226 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:59.160 to broadcasting school together, so I know that he knows his shit well. 227 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:03.640 When I had moved to San Francisco the first time, it turned out that 228 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:10.960 San Francisco has a fantastic community access TV program and we effectively started our own 229 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.680 Wayne's world TV show in San Francisco that went out over the air fun. 230 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.319 We had a blast. It was called TV pirates, like we were taking 231 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:21.599 over the airwaves, and we kind of framed it that way, like ay 232 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:26.119 too crazy guys took over the TV station because the place we did it called 233 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:30.359 BAYVAC, Bay area video coalition. They didn't care as long as we were 234 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:33.200 cool and that we respected the equipment and everything, and as so long as 235 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.359 we didn't get any complaints from the people in San Francisco. Well, San 236 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.519 Francisco is crazy. They're not going to complain about anything on the TV. 237 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.599 There's nothing we could have done in that studio on live TV at Bay Vac. 238 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.960 That would have generated any complaints, so we were free to do what 239 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:53.359 we wanted to. So that was called TV pirates. Later, as it 240 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:59.559 moved on to the Internet, I wanted to call it signal pirates because we're 241 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.160 just like hey, we're taking over the signals. Instead. Well, signal 242 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.599 pirates was taken in many different forms and I'm like fuck, can't you signal 243 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:11.480 pirates? We did a podcast for I don't know, dozens of episodes called 244 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.680 signal jams, which is kind of cool. Pretty cool name. Still a 245 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:22.240 pretty cool name. I have issues a little bit obsessively with words, so 246 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.759 I can't focus on the word jams and I'm like jams, just like Jelly 247 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.519 and preserves and jams. And even as a musician I'm like no, you 248 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.599 fucking idiot. Like jams, you know, you get a get on the 249 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.920 air and jam, like we're going to Improv some bits on the podcast and 250 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.559 just jam. We've signal jams. So it was easy enough for me to 251 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:47.160 sell to like Gary as an idea for name anyway, and the podcast was 252 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:52.680 cool. The podcast eventually got completely pulled off of anchor because it used copyrighted 253 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.799 music and that was before they allowed it. So Anyway, signal jams was 254 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:02.880 always pretty close. I just didn't know. I didn't know like what the 255 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.680 logo look like. We're using like skulls and heavy metal imagery and things like 256 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.920 that. I'm like yeah, it's yeah, it's fine, it's okay, 257 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.599 it's not. Doesn't hit home. It's not a big audience show. And 258 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:18.160 we had already tried a heavy metal specific show called thrashbacks, which was all 259 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:22.279 about us talking about the old shows and the good old times, the metal 260 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.680 days and things like that, but that felt a little two pigeoned old. 261 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:32.400 We didn't just want to talk about heavy metal or nostalgia. I didn't just 262 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:38.799 want to talk about mental health. On emodojo and signal jams. Great Name 263 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.200 But, like I said, I was stuck on the word jams. I'm 264 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:48.000 like a signal jams and plus jams kind of has a negative connotation, like 265 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.599 traffic jams, things like that. So it wasn't quite right. It was 266 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.880 like eighty seven percent, which is fucking yeah, irritating to me. It 267 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:03.079 could be better. So I kept looking around and then several weeks ago, 268 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.440 Gary and I we're trying to get on. I was doing some shit. 269 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.400 Whatever he lived, where he lives or the way his house is constructed. 270 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.039 It just has a bad phone signal. So he was trying to send me 271 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:17.160 a youtube video or something and it ends up sending like three fucking times. 272 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.200 I'm like, Dude, enough with the and enough with the fucking youtube video. 273 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:25.319 I get it and it's like those not my fault. Is a signal 274 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.559 drops you, just like one line in his text back to me was signal 275 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:33.079 drops, and like a fucking classic Gary, Signal Drops, Gary, Gary, 276 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:37.359 Gary. But I'm a little spectra me in this sense, and well, 277 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.119 maybe in the in the real sense, but I pick up on crazy 278 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:47.880 interesting things from a different perspective, so I hear and see phrases differently. 279 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.119 So when I saw the word signal drops in my text, I'm like wait, 280 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.079 hold it, that's actually a dope fucking name for a show. Not 281 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.440 Signal Jams, but signal drops. So, in other words, because nowadays 282 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.559 we used to launch albums, but nowadays people drop albums and they drop new 283 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:08.240 episodes, they they drop things, I'm like, Oh, signal drops, 284 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:14.119 and it actually works out really well because then we can get the different signals 285 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:18.960 from all the other podcasters to drop their signals in our podcast, in the 286 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.079 words, you know, give us their hot take on the daily current events 287 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.160 and news items, and you know. So with the and then within seconds, 288 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.640 if not minutes, I'm on my computer, like pulling up my design 289 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.519 programs and go hmm, drops, and I'm like, I need a new 290 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.000 logo that's not black and white, it's not a face, is completely different, 291 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.960 and I just start fucking route them with drops and made a little drop 292 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.720 logo. It's enough to where people like, Huh, I don't know what 293 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.359 this means. I'll give it a shot, but really, between you and 294 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:52.880 me, it's going to be a cool sounding podcast made by and for people 295 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.400 with mental illnesses. I guess that's going to be our secret. I may 296 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:03.039 actually delete all the episodes older than this one. That's a bipolar style or 297 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:07.200 Emo Dojo. We might start fresh, why not? But no, it's 298 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:11.440 still me and it's basically the same podcast with just a few extra people that 299 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:17.039 I've managed to corral in here to have a new podcast experiment with. And 300 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.599 also, when you come up with the name for a podcast or a project 301 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.720 or a band or anything really, man you got to cover all the details 302 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:30.519 because consistency matters. So before you settle on a name, make sure you 303 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.400 can get that the at handle on the fucking you know, social platforms you 304 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:40.319 want to be on. That's important. So of course, signal drops. 305 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:44.759 Go to twitter. We're there. Signal dropscom. That was available. So 306 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:48.039 you can go to signal dropscom and it'll take you right to this podcast, 307 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.640 just like Emo Dojo does. So if you're old school, you can go 308 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:57.759 to Emo dojocom bring you to the podcast. If you just got here, 309 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:03.240 you just notice signal drops, so go to signal dropscom. These are important. 310 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.680 Like if you come up with the name for a podcast, go check. 311 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:15.599 There's in fact a website called name checkcom and am hkcom named, and 312 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:17.880 just type in the name you want to use. It'll tell you if it's 313 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.920 available. On instagram, twitter, facebook, fucking Linkedin, whatever, it 314 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.799 will tell you if thecom's available. All these things are important and it only 315 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.799 takes about five extra seconds to go to that website instead. So when you 316 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.759 come on up with the name, do a little research and it will go 317 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.519 a long way. So yeah, signal drops is the new name for this 318 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.759 podcast. We're still recording at EMO Dojo. So if you ever hear me 319 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:47.799 mention Emo Dojo. That's where we record. In fact, I think, 320 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:53.680 for to keep like a slight thread of continuity, I will probably put the 321 00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:00.119 producer of this podcast as Emo Dojo and I'll let John Emotions fade off into 322 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:06.400 the background or even the past. I'll just call myself John. With the 323 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:07.839 New People, we're just all going to be on our first name basis. 324 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:12.519 It'll be John, and you know Gary and roam and all. You know 325 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:18.119 all the other people have talked to and you know the one thing I like 326 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.880 about signal drops. It kind of reminds me of candy drops. In other 327 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:30.319 words, it reminds me both of like candy crush land and wreck it Ralph 328 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.480 and the Matrix like signal drops. When there's like a glitch in the signal 329 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:40.559 actually drops. That's the moment that we want to get in your head. 330 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.720 But it also sounds like candy. So what does that sound like? Well, 331 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.680 I have an idea, and getting back to my idea, that we 332 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:53.839 don't need a fucking gigantic intro every time, because the podcast episodes are going 333 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.240 to be timed. I'm going to try to keep them like right at two 334 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.839 thousand and twenty five minutes each time and because of that you're going to be 335 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.000 hearing the logo, then the logo noise, the theme music, however you 336 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.240 want to call it, you're going to be hearing that frequently. So I 337 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:14.559 wanted to go with something really simple and effect this tone. When I tweaked 338 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:15.920 on it, when I was playing with the keyboard, I just liked it 339 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:21.200 so much that I've kept it around for a long time trying to find a 340 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:26.799 good podcast that would go along with this tone. So moving forward, the 341 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:32.799 signal drops music, the signal drops sound tone. It's going to sound like 342 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:41.400 this. What it's boring. Nah, I think it's just right because I 343 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.799 listened to podcast in the car and sometimes when I'm going to bed and I 344 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:52.000 don't want a jarring podcast theme music every time the podcast ends. So if 345 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:59.839 it's just a subtle little tone like that, I think that's perfect. So 346 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:04.200 that's it. That's all this podcast is it just explaining the transition. I've 347 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:08.240 got one more guest for what I'll call a hybrid episode, because I've recorded 348 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:15.000 the interview when the show was Emo Dojo. So he signed up as an 349 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.400 Emo Dojo guests, so I want to respect that and keep that in contained 350 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.079 and as an EMO dojo episode. But, as you'll hear in that episode 351 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.839 that's coming up next, the conversation we had basically alludes to the fact that 352 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.920 we're just going to start talking together on the regular and make it a more 353 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:37.359 of a round table, cohosted or recurring guest host type of show. So, 354 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.799 that said, I'll let you go. I appreciate you sticking around and 355 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:41.960 and now back to the wall.