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No, it's online stylecom style.
That's it. That's me with Bi Polish
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styl again, as promised. Becky
from that B word is with me.
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What's up, Becky? Hey,
good, good, so hopefully you were
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just listening to that nonsensical episode and
are patiently waiting for us to talk about
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stigma in the workplace. You know, it's funny because both Becky and I
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work at jobs where they do not
know we have bipolar disorder. Do you
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do? You want to start?
Do you want to tell us what your
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situation is and to the extent that
you're able? Oh, sure. So
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my work for a lawyer and my
job is, well, I say so.
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My the Laura I work for,
is actually bankruptcy trustee. So I
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have to present in a certain way. I guess everybody does. But not
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only do I have my boss that
I have to impress and appear normal to,
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I also have the United States trustee
that I have to make sure that
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they think I was saying so.
So that can be a little bit differ
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all the Times. Yeah, but
that's a lot of pretending, you are
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saying. Well, yeah, there's
a lot of pretending in general. But
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yeah, so my current situation is
that I have lately, this past six
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months or so, had a lot
more appointments that I've had to get at,
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you you know, increased go to
therapy and go on to my my
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men person. Yeah, and I'm
running out of vacation days and in order
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to, you know, get some
of this time allowed. Why? I
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don't know what to do. Oh, you have. So you haven't.
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The explanation has not had to come
up yet. No, no, I've
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just been able to say, Hey, I have an office appointment. I
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have the same thing. That's so
weird and I okay. So back to
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your industry. Have you been in
the legal industry for long? You have
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worked this job for our fourteen years. So my God, right, right.
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But it's not just your firm that
stick has a I don't know,
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I get let's call her prejudice or
something. And obviously it's not specific to
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your firm it but the whole legal
industry. I would imagine once any of
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your cohorts or your or the lawyers
themselves know somebody else has bipolar disorder,
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that must be devastating in that industry. I'm just guessing. I don't know.
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Is it? I mean, I
I don't know if anybody else this
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hmm, well, I don't know, maybe nobody is out. That was
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out to me anyway that got in
trouble or got fired for that, although
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I do know. Well, there
was one person who I knew had bipolar
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disorder. I don't think anybody else
you knew, but she did end up
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getting fired because of the bipolaris order, because of, you know, her
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resulting bears. Yeah, yeah,
but that's that's an interesting if you don't,
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because if she did thought something,
maybe she didn't gotten some sort of
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incommendation, because I was fact when
that was possible for me. But she
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didn't because you know, yeah,
that that's a hard choice a lot of
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us have to make. It's like
a do I go all in and just
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say I got bipolar disorder, or
do I say I've got fucking Lupus or
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something? I've got lupus, I
can't come in today. Well, I
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mean not to joke about people with
Lupus, obviously, but I mean there
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are plenty of accepted ailments that will
keep you at home, like food poisoning.
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People fear at my work think I
fucking eat at the craziest restaurants because
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I'm always getting food poisoning to the
loss of bad sishy. I totally bad
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Sushi. I recently I just ate
a bunch of iceberg lettuce, whatever that
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kind of let us Romaine, let
us yeah, fucking I was like depressed
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for two days. I couldn't get
out of bed, I could barely even
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like take a shower, and I
work and live in the building I work
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in. Right. So they missed
me, but fortunately I got them all
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hooked up on slack. So they
need be on my hay. I'm just
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be upstairs typing. You know,
let me know what you need. But
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I'm mass so fucking hard to get
and functions sometimes, so I just like,
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oh, yeah, it's migrains food, but just some bullshit, right,
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because people will not accept I've got
bipolar disorder. They'll look at you
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crazy and yeah, I'll often compared
to other invisible conditions, let's call them,
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because that's that's my siren, by
the way. So the new rule
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is we don't worry about sirens that
go by, okay, we just worry
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about the ones that stop. Yeah, that's going back, he's still moving.
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Keep going, buddy. Every time
they stop I end up like got
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to go downstairs and find a dead
body or something Shit Fu on the regular.
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Three, three months, so monthly, I guess. Nikes indeed.
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So so, for example, good
people I get on because I make ridiculous
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comparison sometimes, like the one I'm
about to make. But like, are
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there any homosexuals that are out at
your law firm? Wow, HMM,
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interesting. Do you think that's it's
the similar stigma. Like, do you
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think it'd be easier to be out
as a gay person or out as a
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bipolar person at a law firm?
Oh, I think gay for certain.
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Definitely. Yes, absolutely, but
we've got the past. We do have
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to acknowledge our privilege as white people, because I always like to tell others,
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no matter how bad you think you
have it, you could be gay
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and have bipolar disorder, but you
could also be black on top of that.
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So always consider that white people,
if you're out there complained about your
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lot in life, you could always
throw black on top of that and then
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see how it would feel. Anyway. Sorry to digress, but I always
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think of that because I've lived around
so many black folks and that was remote
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of that. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's true. I could
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be black and it would be worse. Yeah, well, yeah, so,
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but also being you can't you can't
hide being black. You can hide
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your bipolar, you can hide your
gay, you can hide a lot of
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things, but you can't hide your
skin tone obviously your ethnicity. So that's
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why it's a ridiculous comparison there.
But now my comparison was bipolar to gay.
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anyways. So where we are on
California and California here I live in
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the heart of Super Liberal town,
I guess. HMM, and every lay,
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everybody's good. I think. I
think I'm the only not gay person.
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Maybe if I moved to your state, I'm Super Democrat here. If
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I moved to your stay, they
probably call me a Republican. Fuck Yeah,
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they call this one guy, Gavin
Newsom, who's running for something here,
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and maybe the governor. I think
in California he was the mayor of
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San Francisco and he fought, he
was the first guy that legalized gay marriage
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in the city, that he said
Fuck State Law, it's legal here,
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it's going to be legal, and
that guys considered far right in San Francisco.
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Yeah, just because, just because
he's white. He's white and it
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looks like you know a model actor
kind of guy. It's just to two
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pretty boy to upscale. He's got
fancy guys money from some you know.
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I'm not sure where he gets his
money, from the getty family or something,
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but anyway, they always follow the
money. No matter how liberal your
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policies or your attitude or your intent, if you're attached to money somehow the
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super duper liberals will say, Nope, you're not one of us after all.
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Yeah, had we get off on
that? Know, the stigma thing.
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So yeah, let's get back to
stigma, back to that was my
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bed. So anyway, my point
being here in San Francisco, being gay
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isn't a thing and be you can
affect. Mental illness isn't really a stigma
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downtown. It's just something that's so
pervasive Mo this we don't know how to
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deal with it. So right,
the idea of stigmas different here, because
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if you are able to put on
the act and not fall apart, like
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I have bipolar disorder, I've got
myself together over the years and I've stepped
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up through jobs and experience, and
now I have a job. So people
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know me as that guy with the
job. Right, but in my head
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I don't think I'm that much difference
different than the dude sleeping right there on
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the sidewalk outside my window right now. There's not that much of a difference.
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It's just that they missed their opportunity. They did a did the wrong
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drug at the wrong point or something. But I'm like, we're just two
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steps away from each other, Bro. So the stigma is different. So
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if I even if I told people
at work I had a mental disorder,
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to them, they see mental disorder
as sleeping in the gutter. They don't
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see that in me. So therefore
they think, oh, no, big
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deal, you're probably you're fine,
and I'm like, okay, so if
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I feel sort of dismissed, maybe
slightly gas lighted a little bit, but
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at least in my perspective, it's
on the good side. At least they're
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airing on the good side, but
at least they're like yeah, people you
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work with. No, no,
no, not this time before. Let's
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see, I worked in this industry
before, many years ago, and everything
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was cool until one of my supervisors
I told her I had bipolar disorder because
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it got to that point where how
often can you be food poisoned? Right?
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So I finally told her and within
a week she was slamming me with
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all kinds of micromanagement bullshit, all
kinds of extra paperwork, extra supervision.
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I mean, exactly the opposite of
the way you would treat somebody in this
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situation. Really just made matters worse. So I voluntarily, you know,
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gave my two weeks notice and found
a different job and just left. I
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took another job in a different industry, and part of that process was all
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like hey, let's share about your
stories and let's be a community at this
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place. And first thing I thought
was, excuse me. I'm like,
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well, sure, I just moved
to a new town and I'll share everything.
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I'm like, Hey, I have
bipolar disorder and you guys hired me
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because we're diverse and love and all
this bullshit. Well, that's great when
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you're mannic and you're able to feed
the machine right. Oh Yeah, they
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love that, they love that.
Credit, creditivity. Fuck yeah, creativity,
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Manic Energy, works all hours,
upbeat, attitude, friendly, all
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the whole shit, and then you
start swinging into that depressive mode, no
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matter how hard you try. I
might be mother's Day or Christmas or some
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bullshit. I'll just set you off
and usually take something pretty big, but
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eventually it happens. And then I
got depressed, not not even little depressed,
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hard depress, you know, like
in bed for a couple weeks.
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Didn't didn't fucking do my laundry for
months. was buying my shit off of
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Amazon. Instead of washing the underwear, I buy more underwear from Amazon.
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I'm like, fuck it, whatever, very liberal paid time off policy.
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I used it all up eventually,
of course, and there's things spun out
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of Control. I just lost the
job because of that. There's no two
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ways about it. And what do
you expect, even with the friendliest of
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organizations, let's say? How I
mean, what do you expect? I
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can't expect them to keep that sick
of a person around on the books forever.
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But then again, what do you
do with us? Right? Yeah,
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that's a problem. You can't see
companies points of view. As far
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as instruments, costs or whatever it
was it anyway, because even though,
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how do I polity disorder makes anybody's
instruments go way up, the company still
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don't cover it right anyway, because
they don't tell them, don't hath stuff
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right. It's bullshit. I Hate
Insurance Anyway. Yeah, no, it's
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extra layer that we don't really need. I mean single pair government provided insurance
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would be the best. But you
know, this ain't the politics show,
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not yet. Will Get to definitely
an episode. There's definitely a place for
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mentally ill people, let's say,
to get involved with politics to help make
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themselves better. Well, the stigma's
definitely strong. Yeah, so ever since
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I've lost two jobs, I'm not
quite in a row. There's a couple
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sprinkled in in the middle of sales
jobs and things like that. Sales is
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cool because if you sell Shit and
you perform, you could not sell stuff
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for a couple weeks or months,
as long as you sold some other shit
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and your yearly quota is keeping up. That's a flexible job. So I
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always encourage people with bipolar disorder to
find some kind of flexible job like that.
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But anyway. So after that,
being stung and let go from two
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different jobs, I vowed not to
say anything about my bipolar disorder at the
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next job, and so far so
good. So I've now made it through
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two jobs and actually have three jobs. So work my way through one without
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ever saying it, and I currently
work two jobs and neither of them know
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anything about it, which is fine, because I also well, that's also
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what makes it weird about starting a
podcast under my own name. Invariably somebody's
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going to find that. Yeah,
but here's here's my here's my cool thing.
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Unless they're super into podcasts and know
how podcast work, which I've found
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are very few people where I live, like most of them, especially my
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age or older, they don't.
They don't know Dick About podcast. They
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know the Internet and phones and smart
APPs everything, but they haven't taken that
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leap into podcast yet. Most of
them, the old people at the hotel
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I work, I didn't even know
what a fucking podcast is. I'm at
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it's like public radio. Yeah,
I'm going to interview you like public radio.
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They understand that, but too,
sorry, lost my place over there.
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Well, seriously, we're so where
was? I'm sorry, I'm not
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totally did lost my path anyway.
So always getting back to the stigma and
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why I hide it. So the
paywall thing, yeah, the patreon thing.
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This so like it. Well,
we've talked before, but I really
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have just I talked to this mic, because otherwise I would be talking to
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myself. I don't have a pet. There's no cats around or dogs for
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me to talk to. Oh,
I'll tell you about the cat and just
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second. So, anyway, since
I'm going to keep talking on a mic.
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Anyway, I don't really care if
people hear it. I'm putting all
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this shit behind a patreon paywall,
like everything except twitter. I'm going to
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start posting my photos like instead of
Instagram, it's going on Patreon. If
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I ever want to blog something,
it's going on Patreon and I'm just going
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to lock all that shit behind a
paywall and if any prospective employer wants to
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peek on me that it's gonna have
the gonna have to pay, which serves
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my purpose in many ways. I
keep it private. I'll definitely know who
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paid three bucks or a buck or
whatever to see it, because I'm like,
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Oh, my perspective, employers checking
up on me, yeah, whatever.
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So I'll be able to do that. And if they do happen to
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though the technology of PODCAST, then
they're probably pretty fucking cool people and they
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probably would not hold the mental illness
against me if I was already doing my
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job and they never knew right,
and they have to be looking for mentalness
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podcast anyway to find you. I
mean, yeah, exactly. So they
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just they would have to be kind
of Stalkerish, and to which I would
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say, well, dude, you're
the Weirdo looking up on me. So
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you know who's more weird? You
stalking me or me just having a voice
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in a sea of hundreds of thousands
of other people doing podcasts anyway. Yeah,
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so it should be fun, but
hopefully I can get it serialized so
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where I could get up in the
morning to just talk for five minutes about
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the thing that happened yesterday and regular
listeners would be like, oh, yeah,
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I remember that thing that happened yesterday. Cool. What's the resolution to
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that situation? Yeah, talk about
things that happen in the building. Talk
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about the other podcast. I'm going
to start about the stories of the people
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that live in the building. That
should be fun. But is your job?
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Is like super interesting from right?
Yeah, to me it is,
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and other people just don't believe it. So I think by telling it in
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a day by day they'll start to
actually believe it, because otherwise you just
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sounds like a bunch of made up
stories and I'm like no, dude,
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that shit actually really happened. Like
that's impossible. That stuff does not happen
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that frequently to anybody. I'm like, guess it does. It happens to
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everybody in this neighborhood. So nuts. Was I telling you earlier? Like
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I was paid a today, so
I went and cash to check. There's
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a bank in America called Wells Fargo, big old bank, like a banking
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from company whatever. Their main branches
over there by the twitter office and right
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by twitter's headquarters. So I think
all the new people from twitter or something
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that don't have yet direct deposit have
to go cast checks at this wells Fargo
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Bank. And Man it is the
dirtiest, most fucked up bank I've ever
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seen. And you've got these uptight
tech guys weren't a little bit too tired
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of Khaki dockers and they get super
uptight in line and they put on the
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Super White Guy Impression, like who's
managing this place? This is a fiasco.
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Somebody should do something fucking great.
There's almost a brawl between some other
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guys, you know, the guys
with the tattoos on their face and start
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and shit with the they got three
security guards and they're all in there like
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getting ready to brawl. They have
their jackets off shoot and then they called
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the cops, but of course this
is the part of town where cops don't
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really come. So the I still
lines. What's that? Even to a
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bank. I was telling the lady
in line, I'm like watch, the
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COPS will come here fast because this
is where the money is, and she
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agreed and we sat in line another
fifteen minutes. No cops. Fortunately,
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no brawl either, but it's just
an interesting like weird shit like that happens
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every day. That was just two
hours ago. Yeah, it's fascinating,
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man. I dig it and I
think other people might find interesting stories there
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and I won't have to fucking focus
on being bipolar all the time or having
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by olar disorder or having fucking to
concentrate on how to say which, how
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it is do it, you know
what I mean, like, Oh my
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God, just let me be me. I just I just want to talk
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and it doesn't have to be about
bipolar disorder. Let's do other great shit
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because man, there's so many great
creative people out there that do stuff that
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and they only happen be bipolar or
they only happen to have by borderline or
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whatnot. Man, that borderline is
me kicking my ass lately to hmm,
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it's the worst. Who else has
this besides like? I mean a lot
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of people would bipolar. I'm not
sure they're so close to each other.
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Some of those are really, really
similar. Yeah, it's like a joystick
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on arcade game, and bipolar is
up and down and borderlines left and right.
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I mean it's all the same fucking
joystick and sometimes it's the worst thing
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about it to me is, and
it kind of goes with the stigma that
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experience and the trying to hide my
true self in the workplace, is I
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really have a hard time accepting any
kind of compliments and then I complain because
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I don't feel I'm supported. But
yet when people but compliment me, I
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reject the compliment and I like well, that's fucking stupid. How's that going
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to work? But just this it's
like a perpetual downward cycle. Yeah,
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it's not. Nah. That's also
kind of what keeps me from, like
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getting on the microphone. I'm like
yeah, well, I might even talking,
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nobody wants to hear, and then
the other like the devil on this
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shoulders, like you're not talking because
people want to hear. You're talking because
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you need to talk. That's right, you. Yeah, yeah, a
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good blue and or red, I
don't know. Once before the Obama election,
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I got two of those Chinese fighting
fish, a blue one and a
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red one, and I put him
in a tank together to see who would
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win. It's one of those things
I wanted to test. Like people are
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saying, no, you can't feed
chocolate the dogs, they'll die. And
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one time we had like this fucking
gigantic Massif and he got into the Easter
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basket, ate the whole fucking thing, including the basket, like, Oh
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my God, the fake grass,
the straw basket, all the candied eggs,
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the tinfoil. I have fucker didn't
die at all. He's shit out,
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shit out at all. Easter basket. Nope, not a bit,
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not even a little. Yeah,
a little. People will freaking out crazy
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because I have a dog and he
got into some girls stop cookies and like
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almost die and I take no,
no, I shouldn't. I should take
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that back. I'm not belittling the
effective chocolate on dogs at all, because
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it is dangerous to dogs. I
was just and I did obviously give my
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Easter basket to the mastiff, but
I was I was shocked when nothing happened
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to him. Like we took him
to the vantage deck. Well, seems
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okay. Well, here's a bill, Oh, I got things, God
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help and no, he was sure. It's fine, like that fucking dog
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and then he ate the deck,
but next week the deck like fucking wooden
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day. And if you guys want
a mastiff, there you go and love
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that dog also. That's why I
like him, just gigantic head. Hey,
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so, I'm sorry. Back to
the cat thing. There's a weird
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phenomena on Craig's list. I'm not
sure if you were aware of this,
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but if you go to Craig's list
under community and the upper left quadrant,
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there's a pets column in San Francisco. If you go under pets, you
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could find hold on one second,
some stuck in my throat. Get A
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MS are I'm drinking. I'm drinking
my soda. I'm seriously thinking about starting
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on this podcast. So she yeah, no, you shit. You got
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the kind of voice that people tuned
into just get really up to the MIC.
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Funny. Anyway. They craigslist cats
bizarro world. So you'll reply to
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these people and they'll like send you. They'll lead you on. They won't
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tell you what the rehoming fee is
and then they'll send you like. But
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first let I'm I'm happy you inquired
about my precious Kitten, but first let
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me ask you some questions. That
and I'll ask you a bunch of random
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questions, none of from a like
give me your bank account or so security,
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nothing like that. But clearly they
have one of your email addresses.
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Likely Right, not a big deal. They have so little information about you.
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Is What trips me out about this
fiasco, because then email or two
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later, when they think they've got
you on the hook, they'll let on
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that they're actually not in San Francisco, they're not in the city that you're
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in, they're in a different city. But if you send them a check
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for two hundred dollars or whatever the
rehoming fee is, and it's usually like
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kind of exorbitant for a stray cat, then then they'll mail you. They'll
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ship you the fucking cat on the
airplane. I'm like, that is the
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stupidest scam ever. Who would want? Who wants some mail order cat?
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For one you would never know what
you're getting. It's I mean, even
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if it was true, I yeah, it's one thing you should never ever,
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but if you did, that would
make sense. But right, right,
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yeah, and and people do ship
animals, don't get me wrong,
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but I'm in the area on the
craigslist looking for for lost and broken animals.
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I'm just looking to like straight up
adopt. I don't want to.
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And that's the other thing. All
the fucking people on craigslist you like Oh
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rehoming fee of five hundred dollars.
I'm five hundred dollars could feed a fucking
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cat for two years. Are you
kidding? If if you're doing that for
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the money, get out of the
business. I'm used to seeing a box
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full of kittens out in front of
the Kmart with the side says pick one.
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That's that's the kind of kitties I'm
looking for. I'll take it to
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the vet, I'll get it fixed, I'll get it shots, but man,
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there's so many scammers on craigslist.
However, I did find one.
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He had a local number and I
call them earlier this morning and he's real
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and the cat is real. So
in a week I might have a cat
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kitting. It's only like seven months
old right now, but he's got it
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and he's moving, he can't keep
it and he sounds real, so I'm
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so excited. It's like almost all
white, but it's got huge symmetrical black
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patches over left and right eye and
it's got a little black goatee under his
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chin. Burglar. Yeah, yeah, but what I did, because I'm
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like super anal about symmetry and design, his markings are like really rad they're
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like symmetrical and not out of whack, balanced and all that. Sorry,
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cats, I'm really anal about your
markings. Like coifish. It goes shop
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it for coyfish and I'm like,
Nope, that one's fucked up. Nope,
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that's a little splotchy, that's not
even soft. Little left a bit
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much. So well, I like
the weird Fu up looking ones. I
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like all animl most better than none, let's put it that way. But
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if I'm taking the time to sort
through all these craigslist cat scammera ads and
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making all the trips over to the
SPCA every weekend to see if my cat
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is there, you know I'm not. I don't have it in mind.
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I just have what I I don't
know, maybe I do. I don't
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have a specific thing in mind.
I just know when I see it.
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Yeah, and this little guy looks
pretty cute, so we'll see. I'm
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really excited about that, I think
you. Yeah, me too. So
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cool. Um. What people don't
realize, until we bring it up,
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is that while we're recording this and
I'm in California, you're in Ohio,
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nobody actually knows what time it is. So it's actually getting pretty late for
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you, isn't it? It's like
thirty. Can You? Can you do
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this once a month? Can we
like get together and talk to shit about
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bipolar stuff? Roused Jim into the
loop. Sometimes I like oneonone this way
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because there's no editing involved with the
three people. Was Awesome to it just
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required editing, which was one more
thing I procrastinated on. Yeah, and
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it turned out fine. Don't you
hear it? The one you and you
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and Jim, and I did.
Yeah, as sometimes I don't listen to
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the ones with me on it.
I don't hear my own voice. It's
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such a weird thing. Even like
listening to my voice in headphones right now,
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like, who is that creep?
Get that weird out of my yeah,
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I don't mind my voice so much
as I just don't like the things
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that I say. I think I
saund like a stupid person. Mess of
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the Times. I think I sound
like a I don't know me, I
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know it all. I think that's
not the words I say, it's just
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the emphasis I place, because I'm
really in fat just okay, and I
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say things like Oh, here,
okay, here's one thing. I'll just
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will leave kind of on maybe this
note. So do you get really enthusiastic
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about others projects in your life,
like when people come up and say,
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Hey, I'm going to school to
learn Spanish, or hey, what's up,
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I just got a new card.
Do you are you like into it?
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You get excited for them? Well, yeah, I mean if there's
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a yeah, for sure. And
well, I get excited for almost anything,
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like and it's genuine because I'm really
curious. And if someone approaches me,
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I don't like to say I'm an
empath because that sounds fucking hippieish,
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but when someone comes up and I
could tell they're really excited, I'll jump
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on that and I'll amplify their excitement. So my problem has been in the
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past and it's becoming again, is
when I put out that excitement for their
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project, that person assumes I want
to help them with it, I want
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to give my time to it,
or that I'm going to do it for
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them. Even yeah, and I
don't realize this because it's not stated in
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words or actions or writing, but
you know, a few days later we'll
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come back and I'll be like,
hey, how's that project you're working on?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, I
thought you were going to X Y
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Z or say some shit, you
know, like hmm, no, no,
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I didn't actually say that at all. So I feel like I get
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roped into people's projects by being overly
enthusiastic about it and then, on the
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flip side, like with my own
kids, there's the issue of being too
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enthusiastic, where they're like mom,
dad's wrecking it. That's okay. It's
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rubbed off on them now and I
think they've got just enough. Oh,
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here's the latest thing. All right, one more thing. This is funny.
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I don't think we've talked about this
on podcast yet. So I grew
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up long hair, rock and roll, tattoos, sex, drugs, rock
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and roll, right, and I
look like a regular White Guy Cop.
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Look now, shaved head, Dude, whatever. So I was trying to
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trick my kids. You know,
thinking I'm a square, keep my tattoos
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covered up. But because you possibly
do that? What happened was that reverse
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psychology shit. So we were sex, drugs and rock and roll. The
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parents, the mom and I,
and the kids turned out now they're all
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square. My kids are all square. That's the weirst think, Yacht Rock,
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right. So they work at the
gym, they're straight edge with their
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diet, very healthful eaters, all
that good stuff. And you know,
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I'm like, oh, that's great, at least of not doing some weird
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shit. And then, sure enough, one day I thought one of my
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kids was fucking with me when he
sent me a we like chat back and
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forth on Apple, like Apple Music, and we'll send each other songs.
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Well, he starts sending me this
weird ass shit like Asia, not the
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country, the band Peter Satara,
Chicago, all the set and like he's
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kind of digging deep into the into
the deep cuts here. What's going on?
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And I thought he was fucking with
me, being ironic. NOPE,
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if you didn't know, I'm not
sure what age you are, not you
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becky, but the listener. Like
there's a small thin slice of American society
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right in that. Maybe one thousand
nineteen to twenty one year old range that
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are into old, sappy songwriter rock
songs, bands like America Seals and cross
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billy, Joel maybe. And they
call it yacht rock, like yacht,
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like a boat. Go Google it, Yacht Rock. If you go to
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fucking itunes right now, there's a
yacht rock playlist. They've already curated a
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yacht rock playlist and you can go
just drip sap all down you playlist all
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night long, liquid listening like my
kid. Okay, here's the here's the
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apex of this issue. My kid
emails me, text me, says,
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Dad, this is probably the greatest
album of all time. I looked down
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at my phone. are supplies great
as hits are supplied, and like,
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I'm like slayer, Van Halen,
Pantera, fuck it. All that right.
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And here's my kid and he's a
jock. You know, you know,
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she just assist gendered Jockey Kid that
you would think, I don't know
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what he's listening to, but nope, it's fucking being Peter Satara, being
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air supply. I'm like, Whoa, Whoa, whoa. So, if
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you've got got any good yacht rocks
B sides that I can throw Adam,
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because we're to the point now.
We're just trying to trick each other with
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even deeper cuts that we hadn't heard
before, which did funny game to play
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with a twenty year old getting Jim
Croachy in there. Oh, he loves
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Jim Croachy. Yeah, you would. Yeah, operator, build the roller,
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roller, Derby Queen, all that
stuff, not just the the main
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hits like bad, bad Lou Roy
Brown or anything he likes. He looks
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for the B sides. He's flipping
me some mountain John I never heard in
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my whole life, like our.
Okay, I'm like, well, Ellen
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John's got like eight million albums.
So there's boundarby stuff we hadn't heard anyway.
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Yacht Rock, it's where it's at. People cool then. So see,
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we just had another bipolar style podcast
where we weren't heavy into the therapy.
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We weren't into like medicine. We
should. We should do one on
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medicine next time, though, because
there's some new meds coming out and I
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saw an awesome commercial for vrai lar, not for Ai Lar. Have you
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seen the commercial with the ladies going
mannic making sandwiches? It's funny. I
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think it was on the CBS news
APP that I watched through the Rocou stick,
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but so vrai lar and I look
for the commercial on the Youtube.
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It's not there. Nobody, I
mean it's kind of gone now, but
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it showed a lady making like bologney
sandwiches and peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches and
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she's sandwiches for like kids lunches and
she's going real good there for a minute
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and then she starts cutting like crazy
and putting peanut butter on the cheese.
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It just fucking up all the sandwiches
like that looks like me. And then
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Vrai lar for bipolar disorder, and
like Oh it is me. That's a
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pretty good depictions. Just wonder if
anybody else with bipolar disorder has seen the
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new VERI lar commercial with the lady
fucking up all the sandwiches. It's probably
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have to try and find it now
I'd look. Yeah, totally, look
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on Youtube. Look very lar sandwiches
or I don't know who's going to pull
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that out, but good stuff.
Yeah, I want to talk more about
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mats. I'm starting to see a
new psychiatrist shortly and I'll investigate meds,
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not hip on it, because I'm
doing okay without but I'm always open to
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new ideas. So we'll see how
that goes. And you just you started
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rail are you said? Yeah,
we oh shit. Well, let's do
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a podcast in about a month from
now. We'll see how that's going.
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That should be enough time to tell
yeah, hopefully nice. Okay, what
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do you want to promote? You
want to say anything before we cut this
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out? That be word one,
that bewordcom, Becky at that be word.
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Canny much anything with that be word. You, guys, are hearing
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what she's thrown down right, you're
picking up what she's throwing down at that
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B word, just the letter B
W R D, The number one at.
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That be word one. That's her
twitter handle and that's what that B
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Wordcom is where you can find all
of her other goodies. and Oh here,
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listen to this for a quick give
me six seconds. Join the party
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at Bipolar Partycom, like she said. You could join the party at bipolar
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PARTYCOM. And Hmm, yeah,
I'm good. Follow me at Jay Lily
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show on twitter and, of course, at bipolar style. Bipolar stylecom due
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to do. And let's kick it
over to your stuff. And thanks for
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coming on again, back. I
really appreciate you and well look forward to
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a mad update on the next episode, styles on cheese and five following on
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twitter joys. Excuse mecom