May 19, 2018

Stigma in the workplace; Bipolar disorder

John and Becky (from That B Word Podcast) talk about the stigma against Bipolar Disorder in the workplace and share their personal experiences about whether or not to "come out" as Bipolar at work.

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John and Becky (from That B Word Podcast) talk about the stigma against Bipolar Disorder in the workplace and share their personal experiences about whether or not to "come out" as Bipolar at work.

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Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:20.109 No, it's online stylecom style. That's it. That's me with Bi Polish 2 00:00:20.149 --> 00:00:23.940 styl again, as promised. Becky from that B word is with me. 3 00:00:24.019 --> 00:00:28.179 What's up, Becky? Hey, good, good, so hopefully you were 4 00:00:28.219 --> 00:00:32.899 just listening to that nonsensical episode and are patiently waiting for us to talk about 5 00:00:33.179 --> 00:00:38.329 stigma in the workplace. You know, it's funny because both Becky and I 6 00:00:38.530 --> 00:00:43.850 work at jobs where they do not know we have bipolar disorder. Do you 7 00:00:44.409 --> 00:00:46.090 do? You want to start? Do you want to tell us what your 8 00:00:46.130 --> 00:00:50.719 situation is and to the extent that you're able? Oh, sure. So 9 00:00:51.159 --> 00:01:00.079 my work for a lawyer and my job is, well, I say so. 10 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:07.750 My the Laura I work for, is actually bankruptcy trustee. So I 11 00:01:07.269 --> 00:01:14.750 have to present in a certain way. I guess everybody does. But not 12 00:01:14.950 --> 00:01:19.420 only do I have my boss that I have to impress and appear normal to, 13 00:01:19.420 --> 00:01:25.980 I also have the United States trustee that I have to make sure that 14 00:01:26.060 --> 00:01:30.659 they think I was saying so. So that can be a little bit differ 15 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:34.530 all the Times. Yeah, but that's a lot of pretending, you are 16 00:01:34.650 --> 00:01:38.530 saying. Well, yeah, there's a lot of pretending in general. But 17 00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:48.760 yeah, so my current situation is that I have lately, this past six 18 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:53.519 months or so, had a lot more appointments that I've had to get at, 19 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:59.000 you you know, increased go to therapy and go on to my my 20 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:08.710 men person. Yeah, and I'm running out of vacation days and in order 21 00:02:08.870 --> 00:02:15.509 to, you know, get some of this time allowed. Why? I 22 00:02:17.539 --> 00:02:20.939 don't know what to do. Oh, you have. So you haven't. 23 00:02:22.020 --> 00:02:25.699 The explanation has not had to come up yet. No, no, I've 24 00:02:25.780 --> 00:02:29.860 just been able to say, Hey, I have an office appointment. I 25 00:02:29.979 --> 00:02:32.650 have the same thing. That's so weird and I okay. So back to 26 00:02:34.129 --> 00:02:38.370 your industry. Have you been in the legal industry for long? You have 27 00:02:38.490 --> 00:02:44.050 worked this job for our fourteen years. So my God, right, right. 28 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:49.840 But it's not just your firm that stick has a I don't know, 29 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.960 I get let's call her prejudice or something. And obviously it's not specific to 30 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.560 your firm it but the whole legal industry. I would imagine once any of 31 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:02.830 your cohorts or your or the lawyers themselves know somebody else has bipolar disorder, 32 00:03:02.870 --> 00:03:06.909 that must be devastating in that industry. I'm just guessing. I don't know. 33 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:12.229 Is it? I mean, I I don't know if anybody else this 34 00:03:12.750 --> 00:03:16.460 hmm, well, I don't know, maybe nobody is out. That was 35 00:03:16.580 --> 00:03:23.580 out to me anyway that got in trouble or got fired for that, although 36 00:03:23.620 --> 00:03:29.289 I do know. Well, there was one person who I knew had bipolar 37 00:03:29.330 --> 00:03:32.849 disorder. I don't think anybody else you knew, but she did end up 38 00:03:32.930 --> 00:03:38.409 getting fired because of the bipolaris order, because of, you know, her 39 00:03:38.650 --> 00:03:44.240 resulting bears. Yeah, yeah, but that's that's an interesting if you don't, 40 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.680 because if she did thought something, maybe she didn't gotten some sort of 41 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:53.360 incommendation, because I was fact when that was possible for me. But she 42 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.870 didn't because you know, yeah, that that's a hard choice a lot of 43 00:03:57.909 --> 00:04:00.110 us have to make. It's like a do I go all in and just 44 00:04:00.189 --> 00:04:04.310 say I got bipolar disorder, or do I say I've got fucking Lupus or 45 00:04:04.349 --> 00:04:06.550 something? I've got lupus, I can't come in today. Well, I 46 00:04:06.629 --> 00:04:10.979 mean not to joke about people with Lupus, obviously, but I mean there 47 00:04:11.020 --> 00:04:15.060 are plenty of accepted ailments that will keep you at home, like food poisoning. 48 00:04:15.139 --> 00:04:18.180 People fear at my work think I fucking eat at the craziest restaurants because 49 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:24.259 I'm always getting food poisoning to the loss of bad sishy. I totally bad 50 00:04:24.329 --> 00:04:28.529 Sushi. I recently I just ate a bunch of iceberg lettuce, whatever that 51 00:04:28.569 --> 00:04:32.610 kind of let us Romaine, let us yeah, fucking I was like depressed 52 00:04:32.649 --> 00:04:34.610 for two days. I couldn't get out of bed, I could barely even 53 00:04:34.649 --> 00:04:39.319 like take a shower, and I work and live in the building I work 54 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.639 in. Right. So they missed me, but fortunately I got them all 55 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.920 hooked up on slack. So they need be on my hay. I'm just 56 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:47.720 be upstairs typing. You know, let me know what you need. But 57 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:53.430 I'm mass so fucking hard to get and functions sometimes, so I just like, 58 00:04:53.509 --> 00:04:57.949 oh, yeah, it's migrains food, but just some bullshit, right, 59 00:04:58.230 --> 00:05:01.230 because people will not accept I've got bipolar disorder. They'll look at you 60 00:05:01.430 --> 00:05:09.379 crazy and yeah, I'll often compared to other invisible conditions, let's call them, 61 00:05:10.220 --> 00:05:14.180 because that's that's my siren, by the way. So the new rule 62 00:05:14.379 --> 00:05:19.019 is we don't worry about sirens that go by, okay, we just worry 63 00:05:19.060 --> 00:05:25.290 about the ones that stop. Yeah, that's going back, he's still moving. 64 00:05:25.490 --> 00:05:28.449 Keep going, buddy. Every time they stop I end up like got 65 00:05:28.569 --> 00:05:34.449 to go downstairs and find a dead body or something Shit Fu on the regular. 66 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:42.879 Three, three months, so monthly, I guess. Nikes indeed. 67 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:48.040 So so, for example, good people I get on because I make ridiculous 68 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:53.230 comparison sometimes, like the one I'm about to make. But like, are 69 00:05:53.269 --> 00:05:59.110 there any homosexuals that are out at your law firm? Wow, HMM, 70 00:05:59.389 --> 00:06:01.750 interesting. Do you think that's it's the similar stigma. Like, do you 71 00:06:01.790 --> 00:06:04.939 think it'd be easier to be out as a gay person or out as a 72 00:06:05.019 --> 00:06:10.019 bipolar person at a law firm? Oh, I think gay for certain. 73 00:06:10.660 --> 00:06:15.740 Definitely. Yes, absolutely, but we've got the past. We do have 74 00:06:15.819 --> 00:06:20.170 to acknowledge our privilege as white people, because I always like to tell others, 75 00:06:20.490 --> 00:06:24.050 no matter how bad you think you have it, you could be gay 76 00:06:24.410 --> 00:06:27.769 and have bipolar disorder, but you could also be black on top of that. 77 00:06:28.329 --> 00:06:31.370 So always consider that white people, if you're out there complained about your 78 00:06:31.490 --> 00:06:34.680 lot in life, you could always throw black on top of that and then 79 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.360 see how it would feel. Anyway. Sorry to digress, but I always 80 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.920 think of that because I've lived around so many black folks and that was remote 81 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:43.680 of that. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's true. I could 82 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:49.029 be black and it would be worse. Yeah, well, yeah, so, 83 00:06:49.189 --> 00:06:54.310 but also being you can't you can't hide being black. You can hide 84 00:06:54.350 --> 00:06:57.709 your bipolar, you can hide your gay, you can hide a lot of 85 00:06:57.790 --> 00:07:00.860 things, but you can't hide your skin tone obviously your ethnicity. So that's 86 00:07:00.860 --> 00:07:05.259 why it's a ridiculous comparison there. But now my comparison was bipolar to gay. 87 00:07:05.300 --> 00:07:12.980 anyways. So where we are on California and California here I live in 88 00:07:13.019 --> 00:07:19.209 the heart of Super Liberal town, I guess. HMM, and every lay, 89 00:07:19.329 --> 00:07:23.089 everybody's good. I think. I think I'm the only not gay person. 90 00:07:23.170 --> 00:07:26.370 Maybe if I moved to your state, I'm Super Democrat here. If 91 00:07:26.410 --> 00:07:30.480 I moved to your stay, they probably call me a Republican. Fuck Yeah, 92 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.279 they call this one guy, Gavin Newsom, who's running for something here, 93 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.519 and maybe the governor. I think in California he was the mayor of 94 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:42.240 San Francisco and he fought, he was the first guy that legalized gay marriage 95 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.430 in the city, that he said Fuck State Law, it's legal here, 96 00:07:45.509 --> 00:07:49.670 it's going to be legal, and that guys considered far right in San Francisco. 97 00:07:49.870 --> 00:07:53.589 Yeah, just because, just because he's white. He's white and it 98 00:07:53.629 --> 00:07:57.470 looks like you know a model actor kind of guy. It's just to two 99 00:07:57.550 --> 00:08:01.259 pretty boy to upscale. He's got fancy guys money from some you know. 100 00:08:01.420 --> 00:08:05.100 I'm not sure where he gets his money, from the getty family or something, 101 00:08:05.220 --> 00:08:09.259 but anyway, they always follow the money. No matter how liberal your 102 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:13.050 policies or your attitude or your intent, if you're attached to money somehow the 103 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.649 super duper liberals will say, Nope, you're not one of us after all. 104 00:08:18.730 --> 00:08:22.209 Yeah, had we get off on that? Know, the stigma thing. 105 00:08:22.490 --> 00:08:24.970 So yeah, let's get back to stigma, back to that was my 106 00:08:24.089 --> 00:08:28.319 bed. So anyway, my point being here in San Francisco, being gay 107 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:33.679 isn't a thing and be you can affect. Mental illness isn't really a stigma 108 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:39.279 downtown. It's just something that's so pervasive Mo this we don't know how to 109 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.830 deal with it. So right, the idea of stigmas different here, because 110 00:08:43.909 --> 00:08:48.830 if you are able to put on the act and not fall apart, like 111 00:08:48.110 --> 00:08:52.669 I have bipolar disorder, I've got myself together over the years and I've stepped 112 00:08:52.710 --> 00:08:56.299 up through jobs and experience, and now I have a job. So people 113 00:08:56.379 --> 00:09:01.019 know me as that guy with the job. Right, but in my head 114 00:09:01.100 --> 00:09:05.100 I don't think I'm that much difference different than the dude sleeping right there on 115 00:09:05.179 --> 00:09:07.860 the sidewalk outside my window right now. There's not that much of a difference. 116 00:09:07.899 --> 00:09:11.690 It's just that they missed their opportunity. They did a did the wrong 117 00:09:11.730 --> 00:09:15.649 drug at the wrong point or something. But I'm like, we're just two 118 00:09:15.730 --> 00:09:18.570 steps away from each other, Bro. So the stigma is different. So 119 00:09:18.730 --> 00:09:22.330 if I even if I told people at work I had a mental disorder, 120 00:09:24.009 --> 00:09:26.720 to them, they see mental disorder as sleeping in the gutter. They don't 121 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.559 see that in me. So therefore they think, oh, no, big 122 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:35.399 deal, you're probably you're fine, and I'm like, okay, so if 123 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:41.230 I feel sort of dismissed, maybe slightly gas lighted a little bit, but 124 00:09:41.309 --> 00:09:43.909 at least in my perspective, it's on the good side. At least they're 125 00:09:43.909 --> 00:09:50.590 airing on the good side, but at least they're like yeah, people you 126 00:09:50.669 --> 00:09:54.299 work with. No, no, no, not this time before. Let's 127 00:09:54.299 --> 00:09:58.860 see, I worked in this industry before, many years ago, and everything 128 00:09:58.940 --> 00:10:05.139 was cool until one of my supervisors I told her I had bipolar disorder because 129 00:10:05.139 --> 00:10:09.649 it got to that point where how often can you be food poisoned? Right? 130 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:13.009 So I finally told her and within a week she was slamming me with 131 00:10:13.049 --> 00:10:18.570 all kinds of micromanagement bullshit, all kinds of extra paperwork, extra supervision. 132 00:10:18.570 --> 00:10:22.559 I mean, exactly the opposite of the way you would treat somebody in this 133 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:28.159 situation. Really just made matters worse. So I voluntarily, you know, 134 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.120 gave my two weeks notice and found a different job and just left. I 135 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:37.710 took another job in a different industry, and part of that process was all 136 00:10:37.789 --> 00:10:43.710 like hey, let's share about your stories and let's be a community at this 137 00:10:43.750 --> 00:10:48.429 place. And first thing I thought was, excuse me. I'm like, 138 00:10:48.509 --> 00:10:50.740 well, sure, I just moved to a new town and I'll share everything. 139 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:54.539 I'm like, Hey, I have bipolar disorder and you guys hired me 140 00:10:54.580 --> 00:10:58.580 because we're diverse and love and all this bullshit. Well, that's great when 141 00:10:58.580 --> 00:11:03.490 you're mannic and you're able to feed the machine right. Oh Yeah, they 142 00:11:03.610 --> 00:11:07.889 love that, they love that. Credit, creditivity. Fuck yeah, creativity, 143 00:11:09.289 --> 00:11:13.529 Manic Energy, works all hours, upbeat, attitude, friendly, all 144 00:11:13.570 --> 00:11:18.039 the whole shit, and then you start swinging into that depressive mode, no 145 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.879 matter how hard you try. I might be mother's Day or Christmas or some 146 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.000 bullshit. I'll just set you off and usually take something pretty big, but 147 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.000 eventually it happens. And then I got depressed, not not even little depressed, 148 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:35.029 hard depress, you know, like in bed for a couple weeks. 149 00:11:35.750 --> 00:11:39.070 Didn't didn't fucking do my laundry for months. was buying my shit off of 150 00:11:39.110 --> 00:11:41.710 Amazon. Instead of washing the underwear, I buy more underwear from Amazon. 151 00:11:41.789 --> 00:11:48.899 I'm like, fuck it, whatever, very liberal paid time off policy. 152 00:11:48.940 --> 00:11:54.779 I used it all up eventually, of course, and there's things spun out 153 00:11:54.779 --> 00:11:56.779 of Control. I just lost the job because of that. There's no two 154 00:11:56.820 --> 00:12:01.570 ways about it. And what do you expect, even with the friendliest of 155 00:12:03.049 --> 00:12:07.610 organizations, let's say? How I mean, what do you expect? I 156 00:12:07.730 --> 00:12:11.649 can't expect them to keep that sick of a person around on the books forever. 157 00:12:13.570 --> 00:12:16.039 But then again, what do you do with us? Right? Yeah, 158 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:22.320 that's a problem. You can't see companies points of view. As far 159 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:31.269 as instruments, costs or whatever it was it anyway, because even though, 160 00:12:31.830 --> 00:12:35.909 how do I polity disorder makes anybody's instruments go way up, the company still 161 00:12:35.950 --> 00:12:39.269 don't cover it right anyway, because they don't tell them, don't hath stuff 162 00:12:39.269 --> 00:12:43.700 right. It's bullshit. I Hate Insurance Anyway. Yeah, no, it's 163 00:12:43.779 --> 00:12:48.139 extra layer that we don't really need. I mean single pair government provided insurance 164 00:12:48.179 --> 00:12:52.980 would be the best. But you know, this ain't the politics show, 165 00:12:52.059 --> 00:12:56.820 not yet. Will Get to definitely an episode. There's definitely a place for 166 00:12:56.899 --> 00:13:01.769 mentally ill people, let's say, to get involved with politics to help make 167 00:13:01.809 --> 00:13:07.529 themselves better. Well, the stigma's definitely strong. Yeah, so ever since 168 00:13:07.610 --> 00:13:11.370 I've lost two jobs, I'm not quite in a row. There's a couple 169 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:13.960 sprinkled in in the middle of sales jobs and things like that. Sales is 170 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.679 cool because if you sell Shit and you perform, you could not sell stuff 171 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.039 for a couple weeks or months, as long as you sold some other shit 172 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.350 and your yearly quota is keeping up. That's a flexible job. So I 173 00:13:26.350 --> 00:13:31.470 always encourage people with bipolar disorder to find some kind of flexible job like that. 174 00:13:31.470 --> 00:13:37.110 But anyway. So after that, being stung and let go from two 175 00:13:37.149 --> 00:13:43.179 different jobs, I vowed not to say anything about my bipolar disorder at the 176 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:48.620 next job, and so far so good. So I've now made it through 177 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:54.019 two jobs and actually have three jobs. So work my way through one without 178 00:13:54.059 --> 00:13:58.289 ever saying it, and I currently work two jobs and neither of them know 179 00:13:58.450 --> 00:14:01.370 anything about it, which is fine, because I also well, that's also 180 00:14:01.409 --> 00:14:07.649 what makes it weird about starting a podcast under my own name. Invariably somebody's 181 00:14:07.649 --> 00:14:11.200 going to find that. Yeah, but here's here's my here's my cool thing. 182 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.759 Unless they're super into podcasts and know how podcast work, which I've found 183 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.840 are very few people where I live, like most of them, especially my 184 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.750 age or older, they don't. They don't know Dick About podcast. They 185 00:14:24.789 --> 00:14:28.350 know the Internet and phones and smart APPs everything, but they haven't taken that 186 00:14:28.350 --> 00:14:31.990 leap into podcast yet. Most of them, the old people at the hotel 187 00:14:33.029 --> 00:14:35.669 I work, I didn't even know what a fucking podcast is. I'm at 188 00:14:35.389 --> 00:14:39.580 it's like public radio. Yeah, I'm going to interview you like public radio. 189 00:14:41.019 --> 00:14:48.299 They understand that, but too, sorry, lost my place over there. 190 00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:56.090 Well, seriously, we're so where was? I'm sorry, I'm not 191 00:14:56.169 --> 00:15:03.250 totally did lost my path anyway. So always getting back to the stigma and 192 00:15:03.450 --> 00:15:07.519 why I hide it. So the paywall thing, yeah, the patreon thing. 193 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.360 This so like it. Well, we've talked before, but I really 194 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:16.080 have just I talked to this mic, because otherwise I would be talking to 195 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.440 myself. I don't have a pet. There's no cats around or dogs for 196 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.350 me to talk to. Oh, I'll tell you about the cat and just 197 00:15:24.509 --> 00:15:28.669 second. So, anyway, since I'm going to keep talking on a mic. 198 00:15:28.710 --> 00:15:31.269 Anyway, I don't really care if people hear it. I'm putting all 199 00:15:31.389 --> 00:15:35.940 this shit behind a patreon paywall, like everything except twitter. I'm going to 200 00:15:37.019 --> 00:15:41.259 start posting my photos like instead of Instagram, it's going on Patreon. If 201 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:43.419 I ever want to blog something, it's going on Patreon and I'm just going 202 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:48.500 to lock all that shit behind a paywall and if any prospective employer wants to 203 00:15:48.620 --> 00:15:52.570 peek on me that it's gonna have the gonna have to pay, which serves 204 00:15:52.649 --> 00:15:56.929 my purpose in many ways. I keep it private. I'll definitely know who 205 00:15:56.009 --> 00:16:00.450 paid three bucks or a buck or whatever to see it, because I'm like, 206 00:16:00.570 --> 00:16:03.210 Oh, my perspective, employers checking up on me, yeah, whatever. 207 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:07.799 So I'll be able to do that. And if they do happen to 208 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.559 though the technology of PODCAST, then they're probably pretty fucking cool people and they 209 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.080 probably would not hold the mental illness against me if I was already doing my 210 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.590 job and they never knew right, and they have to be looking for mentalness 211 00:16:21.669 --> 00:16:25.830 podcast anyway to find you. I mean, yeah, exactly. So they 212 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:29.629 just they would have to be kind of Stalkerish, and to which I would 213 00:16:29.629 --> 00:16:32.309 say, well, dude, you're the Weirdo looking up on me. So 214 00:16:33.059 --> 00:16:37.980 you know who's more weird? You stalking me or me just having a voice 215 00:16:37.500 --> 00:16:42.019 in a sea of hundreds of thousands of other people doing podcasts anyway. Yeah, 216 00:16:42.100 --> 00:16:45.940 so it should be fun, but hopefully I can get it serialized so 217 00:16:47.019 --> 00:16:48.610 where I could get up in the morning to just talk for five minutes about 218 00:16:48.610 --> 00:16:52.129 the thing that happened yesterday and regular listeners would be like, oh, yeah, 219 00:16:52.129 --> 00:16:56.129 I remember that thing that happened yesterday. Cool. What's the resolution to 220 00:16:56.169 --> 00:17:00.730 that situation? Yeah, talk about things that happen in the building. Talk 221 00:17:00.809 --> 00:17:03.759 about the other podcast. I'm going to start about the stories of the people 222 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.839 that live in the building. That should be fun. But is your job? 223 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.640 Is like super interesting from right? Yeah, to me it is, 224 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:12.880 and other people just don't believe it. So I think by telling it in 225 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:17.269 a day by day they'll start to actually believe it, because otherwise you just 226 00:17:17.309 --> 00:17:18.789 sounds like a bunch of made up stories and I'm like no, dude, 227 00:17:18.789 --> 00:17:22.269 that shit actually really happened. Like that's impossible. That stuff does not happen 228 00:17:22.390 --> 00:17:26.549 that frequently to anybody. I'm like, guess it does. It happens to 229 00:17:26.710 --> 00:17:30.579 everybody in this neighborhood. So nuts. Was I telling you earlier? Like 230 00:17:30.180 --> 00:17:34.259 I was paid a today, so I went and cash to check. There's 231 00:17:34.259 --> 00:17:38.180 a bank in America called Wells Fargo, big old bank, like a banking 232 00:17:38.259 --> 00:17:45.130 from company whatever. Their main branches over there by the twitter office and right 233 00:17:45.170 --> 00:17:48.609 by twitter's headquarters. So I think all the new people from twitter or something 234 00:17:49.089 --> 00:17:55.049 that don't have yet direct deposit have to go cast checks at this wells Fargo 235 00:17:55.170 --> 00:17:59.480 Bank. And Man it is the dirtiest, most fucked up bank I've ever 236 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.000 seen. And you've got these uptight tech guys weren't a little bit too tired 237 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:08.799 of Khaki dockers and they get super uptight in line and they put on the 238 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:14.869 Super White Guy Impression, like who's managing this place? This is a fiasco. 239 00:18:15.630 --> 00:18:19.349 Somebody should do something fucking great. There's almost a brawl between some other 240 00:18:19.390 --> 00:18:22.230 guys, you know, the guys with the tattoos on their face and start 241 00:18:22.309 --> 00:18:26.230 and shit with the they got three security guards and they're all in there like 242 00:18:26.349 --> 00:18:30.380 getting ready to brawl. They have their jackets off shoot and then they called 243 00:18:30.420 --> 00:18:32.940 the cops, but of course this is the part of town where cops don't 244 00:18:32.940 --> 00:18:38.619 really come. So the I still lines. What's that? Even to a 245 00:18:38.660 --> 00:18:41.650 bank. I was telling the lady in line, I'm like watch, the 246 00:18:41.690 --> 00:18:45.329 COPS will come here fast because this is where the money is, and she 247 00:18:45.410 --> 00:18:48.690 agreed and we sat in line another fifteen minutes. No cops. Fortunately, 248 00:18:48.769 --> 00:18:53.130 no brawl either, but it's just an interesting like weird shit like that happens 249 00:18:53.369 --> 00:18:57.519 every day. That was just two hours ago. Yeah, it's fascinating, 250 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:02.960 man. I dig it and I think other people might find interesting stories there 251 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.599 and I won't have to fucking focus on being bipolar all the time or having 252 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.829 by olar disorder or having fucking to concentrate on how to say which, how 253 00:19:10.910 --> 00:19:11.950 it is do it, you know what I mean, like, Oh my 254 00:19:11.950 --> 00:19:15.710 God, just let me be me. I just I just want to talk 255 00:19:15.109 --> 00:19:18.750 and it doesn't have to be about bipolar disorder. Let's do other great shit 256 00:19:18.789 --> 00:19:22.829 because man, there's so many great creative people out there that do stuff that 257 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:29.099 and they only happen be bipolar or they only happen to have by borderline or 258 00:19:29.140 --> 00:19:33.099 whatnot. Man, that borderline is me kicking my ass lately to hmm, 259 00:19:33.019 --> 00:19:38.009 it's the worst. Who else has this besides like? I mean a lot 260 00:19:38.049 --> 00:19:42.890 of people would bipolar. I'm not sure they're so close to each other. 261 00:19:44.769 --> 00:19:47.609 Some of those are really, really similar. Yeah, it's like a joystick 262 00:19:48.089 --> 00:19:51.410 on arcade game, and bipolar is up and down and borderlines left and right. 263 00:19:51.450 --> 00:19:55.279 I mean it's all the same fucking joystick and sometimes it's the worst thing 264 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:57.920 about it to me is, and it kind of goes with the stigma that 265 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.599 experience and the trying to hide my true self in the workplace, is I 266 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:07.269 really have a hard time accepting any kind of compliments and then I complain because 267 00:20:07.269 --> 00:20:10.950 I don't feel I'm supported. But yet when people but compliment me, I 268 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:15.589 reject the compliment and I like well, that's fucking stupid. How's that going 269 00:20:15.670 --> 00:20:18.990 to work? But just this it's like a perpetual downward cycle. Yeah, 270 00:20:18.990 --> 00:20:23.539 it's not. Nah. That's also kind of what keeps me from, like 271 00:20:23.619 --> 00:20:26.380 getting on the microphone. I'm like yeah, well, I might even talking, 272 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:30.619 nobody wants to hear, and then the other like the devil on this 273 00:20:30.700 --> 00:20:33.380 shoulders, like you're not talking because people want to hear. You're talking because 274 00:20:33.420 --> 00:20:40.890 you need to talk. That's right, you. Yeah, yeah, a 275 00:20:41.009 --> 00:20:45.490 good blue and or red, I don't know. Once before the Obama election, 276 00:20:45.529 --> 00:20:48.690 I got two of those Chinese fighting fish, a blue one and a 277 00:20:48.769 --> 00:20:52.480 red one, and I put him in a tank together to see who would 278 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.839 win. It's one of those things I wanted to test. Like people are 279 00:20:56.039 --> 00:21:00.599 saying, no, you can't feed chocolate the dogs, they'll die. And 280 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.109 one time we had like this fucking gigantic Massif and he got into the Easter 281 00:21:04.269 --> 00:21:08.029 basket, ate the whole fucking thing, including the basket, like, Oh 282 00:21:08.109 --> 00:21:12.829 my God, the fake grass, the straw basket, all the candied eggs, 283 00:21:12.869 --> 00:21:17.230 the tinfoil. I have fucker didn't die at all. He's shit out, 284 00:21:17.789 --> 00:21:19.420 shit out at all. Easter basket. Nope, not a bit, 285 00:21:19.539 --> 00:21:22.859 not even a little. Yeah, a little. People will freaking out crazy 286 00:21:22.980 --> 00:21:29.099 because I have a dog and he got into some girls stop cookies and like 287 00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:33.289 almost die and I take no, no, I shouldn't. I should take 288 00:21:33.329 --> 00:21:37.289 that back. I'm not belittling the effective chocolate on dogs at all, because 289 00:21:37.329 --> 00:21:40.930 it is dangerous to dogs. I was just and I did obviously give my 290 00:21:41.650 --> 00:21:47.240 Easter basket to the mastiff, but I was I was shocked when nothing happened 291 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:48.559 to him. Like we took him to the vantage deck. Well, seems 292 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.240 okay. Well, here's a bill, Oh, I got things, God 293 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.240 help and no, he was sure. It's fine, like that fucking dog 294 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.079 and then he ate the deck, but next week the deck like fucking wooden 295 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.269 day. And if you guys want a mastiff, there you go and love 296 00:22:04.349 --> 00:22:08.509 that dog also. That's why I like him, just gigantic head. Hey, 297 00:22:08.630 --> 00:22:14.150 so, I'm sorry. Back to the cat thing. There's a weird 298 00:22:14.230 --> 00:22:17.019 phenomena on Craig's list. I'm not sure if you were aware of this, 299 00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:19.859 but if you go to Craig's list under community and the upper left quadrant, 300 00:22:21.220 --> 00:22:26.500 there's a pets column in San Francisco. If you go under pets, you 301 00:22:26.619 --> 00:22:41.009 could find hold on one second, some stuck in my throat. Get A 302 00:22:41.009 --> 00:22:47.759 MS are I'm drinking. I'm drinking my soda. I'm seriously thinking about starting 303 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:51.119 on this podcast. So she yeah, no, you shit. You got 304 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.200 the kind of voice that people tuned into just get really up to the MIC. 305 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:00.349 Funny. Anyway. They craigslist cats bizarro world. So you'll reply to 306 00:23:00.390 --> 00:23:03.750 these people and they'll like send you. They'll lead you on. They won't 307 00:23:03.750 --> 00:23:07.109 tell you what the rehoming fee is and then they'll send you like. But 308 00:23:07.349 --> 00:23:11.710 first let I'm I'm happy you inquired about my precious Kitten, but first let 309 00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:15.619 me ask you some questions. That and I'll ask you a bunch of random 310 00:23:15.660 --> 00:23:18.740 questions, none of from a like give me your bank account or so security, 311 00:23:18.819 --> 00:23:22.700 nothing like that. But clearly they have one of your email addresses. 312 00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:26.329 Likely Right, not a big deal. They have so little information about you. 313 00:23:26.849 --> 00:23:32.930 Is What trips me out about this fiasco, because then email or two 314 00:23:32.970 --> 00:23:36.410 later, when they think they've got you on the hook, they'll let on 315 00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:38.369 that they're actually not in San Francisco, they're not in the city that you're 316 00:23:38.490 --> 00:23:41.519 in, they're in a different city. But if you send them a check 317 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.400 for two hundred dollars or whatever the rehoming fee is, and it's usually like 318 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.920 kind of exorbitant for a stray cat, then then they'll mail you. They'll 319 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.519 ship you the fucking cat on the airplane. I'm like, that is the 320 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:56.990 stupidest scam ever. Who would want? Who wants some mail order cat? 321 00:23:57.589 --> 00:24:02.349 For one you would never know what you're getting. It's I mean, even 322 00:24:02.390 --> 00:24:07.950 if it was true, I yeah, it's one thing you should never ever, 323 00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:12.660 but if you did, that would make sense. But right, right, 324 00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:15.500 yeah, and and people do ship animals, don't get me wrong, 325 00:24:15.579 --> 00:24:21.660 but I'm in the area on the craigslist looking for for lost and broken animals. 326 00:24:21.740 --> 00:24:23.019 I'm just looking to like straight up adopt. I don't want to. 327 00:24:23.289 --> 00:24:27.009 And that's the other thing. All the fucking people on craigslist you like Oh 328 00:24:27.089 --> 00:24:30.849 rehoming fee of five hundred dollars. I'm five hundred dollars could feed a fucking 329 00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:34.609 cat for two years. Are you kidding? If if you're doing that for 330 00:24:34.650 --> 00:24:37.839 the money, get out of the business. I'm used to seeing a box 331 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.279 full of kittens out in front of the Kmart with the side says pick one. 332 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.279 That's that's the kind of kitties I'm looking for. I'll take it to 333 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.200 the vet, I'll get it fixed, I'll get it shots, but man, 334 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.880 there's so many scammers on craigslist. However, I did find one. 335 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.430 He had a local number and I call them earlier this morning and he's real 336 00:24:56.109 --> 00:25:00.190 and the cat is real. So in a week I might have a cat 337 00:25:00.910 --> 00:25:04.990 kitting. It's only like seven months old right now, but he's got it 338 00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:11.059 and he's moving, he can't keep it and he sounds real, so I'm 339 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:15.779 so excited. It's like almost all white, but it's got huge symmetrical black 340 00:25:15.819 --> 00:25:21.849 patches over left and right eye and it's got a little black goatee under his 341 00:25:21.930 --> 00:25:26.210 chin. Burglar. Yeah, yeah, but what I did, because I'm 342 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:30.410 like super anal about symmetry and design, his markings are like really rad they're 343 00:25:30.450 --> 00:25:37.319 like symmetrical and not out of whack, balanced and all that. Sorry, 344 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.559 cats, I'm really anal about your markings. Like coifish. It goes shop 345 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.640 it for coyfish and I'm like, Nope, that one's fucked up. Nope, 346 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.400 that's a little splotchy, that's not even soft. Little left a bit 347 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:53.630 much. So well, I like the weird Fu up looking ones. I 348 00:25:53.789 --> 00:25:56.750 like all animl most better than none, let's put it that way. But 349 00:25:56.869 --> 00:26:02.390 if I'm taking the time to sort through all these craigslist cat scammera ads and 350 00:26:02.470 --> 00:26:06.380 making all the trips over to the SPCA every weekend to see if my cat 351 00:26:06.500 --> 00:26:07.859 is there, you know I'm not. I don't have it in mind. 352 00:26:07.980 --> 00:26:11.500 I just have what I I don't know, maybe I do. I don't 353 00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:12.980 have a specific thing in mind. I just know when I see it. 354 00:26:14.700 --> 00:26:18.769 Yeah, and this little guy looks pretty cute, so we'll see. I'm 355 00:26:18.849 --> 00:26:22.369 really excited about that, I think you. Yeah, me too. So 356 00:26:22.569 --> 00:26:26.609 cool. Um. What people don't realize, until we bring it up, 357 00:26:26.730 --> 00:26:29.809 is that while we're recording this and I'm in California, you're in Ohio, 358 00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:33.720 nobody actually knows what time it is. So it's actually getting pretty late for 359 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.559 you, isn't it? It's like thirty. Can You? Can you do 360 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.640 this once a month? Can we like get together and talk to shit about 361 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:47.309 bipolar stuff? Roused Jim into the loop. Sometimes I like oneonone this way 362 00:26:47.349 --> 00:26:51.349 because there's no editing involved with the three people. Was Awesome to it just 363 00:26:51.470 --> 00:26:56.349 required editing, which was one more thing I procrastinated on. Yeah, and 364 00:26:56.630 --> 00:26:59.950 it turned out fine. Don't you hear it? The one you and you 365 00:27:00.069 --> 00:27:02.980 and Jim, and I did. Yeah, as sometimes I don't listen to 366 00:27:03.019 --> 00:27:07.140 the ones with me on it. I don't hear my own voice. It's 367 00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:10.779 such a weird thing. Even like listening to my voice in headphones right now, 368 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:17.130 like, who is that creep? Get that weird out of my yeah, 369 00:27:17.210 --> 00:27:19.609 I don't mind my voice so much as I just don't like the things 370 00:27:19.650 --> 00:27:23.369 that I say. I think I saund like a stupid person. Mess of 371 00:27:23.410 --> 00:27:29.289 the Times. I think I sound like a I don't know me, I 372 00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:33.359 know it all. I think that's not the words I say, it's just 373 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.799 the emphasis I place, because I'm really in fat just okay, and I 374 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:38.960 say things like Oh, here, okay, here's one thing. I'll just 375 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:44.279 will leave kind of on maybe this note. So do you get really enthusiastic 376 00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:48.390 about others projects in your life, like when people come up and say, 377 00:27:48.710 --> 00:27:52.190 Hey, I'm going to school to learn Spanish, or hey, what's up, 378 00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:53.269 I just got a new card. Do you are you like into it? 379 00:27:53.349 --> 00:27:56.190 You get excited for them? Well, yeah, I mean if there's 380 00:27:56.430 --> 00:28:00.619 a yeah, for sure. And well, I get excited for almost anything, 381 00:28:02.019 --> 00:28:07.220 like and it's genuine because I'm really curious. And if someone approaches me, 382 00:28:07.859 --> 00:28:11.740 I don't like to say I'm an empath because that sounds fucking hippieish, 383 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:15.769 but when someone comes up and I could tell they're really excited, I'll jump 384 00:28:15.849 --> 00:28:21.089 on that and I'll amplify their excitement. So my problem has been in the 385 00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:26.130 past and it's becoming again, is when I put out that excitement for their 386 00:28:26.210 --> 00:28:30.839 project, that person assumes I want to help them with it, I want 387 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.480 to give my time to it, or that I'm going to do it for 388 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.720 them. Even yeah, and I don't realize this because it's not stated in 389 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.430 words or actions or writing, but you know, a few days later we'll 390 00:28:42.470 --> 00:28:47.230 come back and I'll be like, hey, how's that project you're working on? 391 00:28:47.789 --> 00:28:49.589 Oh, yeah, yeah, I thought you were going to X Y 392 00:28:49.630 --> 00:28:52.230 Z or say some shit, you know, like hmm, no, no, 393 00:28:52.349 --> 00:28:56.460 I didn't actually say that at all. So I feel like I get 394 00:28:56.539 --> 00:29:03.500 roped into people's projects by being overly enthusiastic about it and then, on the 395 00:29:03.579 --> 00:29:07.019 flip side, like with my own kids, there's the issue of being too 396 00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:15.970 enthusiastic, where they're like mom, dad's wrecking it. That's okay. It's 397 00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:18.809 rubbed off on them now and I think they've got just enough. Oh, 398 00:29:18.849 --> 00:29:22.049 here's the latest thing. All right, one more thing. This is funny. 399 00:29:22.049 --> 00:29:25.920 I don't think we've talked about this on podcast yet. So I grew 400 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.359 up long hair, rock and roll, tattoos, sex, drugs, rock 401 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.640 and roll, right, and I look like a regular White Guy Cop. 402 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.109 Look now, shaved head, Dude, whatever. So I was trying to 403 00:29:38.190 --> 00:29:42.150 trick my kids. You know, thinking I'm a square, keep my tattoos 404 00:29:42.190 --> 00:29:51.150 covered up. But because you possibly do that? What happened was that reverse 405 00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:53.900 psychology shit. So we were sex, drugs and rock and roll. The 406 00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:57.900 parents, the mom and I, and the kids turned out now they're all 407 00:29:57.940 --> 00:30:03.779 square. My kids are all square. That's the weirst think, Yacht Rock, 408 00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:07.809 right. So they work at the gym, they're straight edge with their 409 00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:11.849 diet, very healthful eaters, all that good stuff. And you know, 410 00:30:11.289 --> 00:30:14.690 I'm like, oh, that's great, at least of not doing some weird 411 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:17.730 shit. And then, sure enough, one day I thought one of my 412 00:30:17.769 --> 00:30:21.680 kids was fucking with me when he sent me a we like chat back and 413 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.359 forth on Apple, like Apple Music, and we'll send each other songs. 414 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.960 Well, he starts sending me this weird ass shit like Asia, not the 415 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:36.869 country, the band Peter Satara, Chicago, all the set and like he's 416 00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:40.069 kind of digging deep into the into the deep cuts here. What's going on? 417 00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:44.029 And I thought he was fucking with me, being ironic. NOPE, 418 00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:47.710 if you didn't know, I'm not sure what age you are, not you 419 00:30:47.789 --> 00:30:53.619 becky, but the listener. Like there's a small thin slice of American society 420 00:30:53.859 --> 00:30:57.740 right in that. Maybe one thousand nineteen to twenty one year old range that 421 00:30:57.900 --> 00:31:06.049 are into old, sappy songwriter rock songs, bands like America Seals and cross 422 00:31:06.490 --> 00:31:11.210 billy, Joel maybe. And they call it yacht rock, like yacht, 423 00:31:11.490 --> 00:31:15.849 like a boat. Go Google it, Yacht Rock. If you go to 424 00:31:15.970 --> 00:31:19.319 fucking itunes right now, there's a yacht rock playlist. They've already curated a 425 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.799 yacht rock playlist and you can go just drip sap all down you playlist all 426 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.559 night long, liquid listening like my kid. Okay, here's the here's the 427 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.069 apex of this issue. My kid emails me, text me, says, 428 00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:40.950 Dad, this is probably the greatest album of all time. I looked down 429 00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:48.299 at my phone. are supplies great as hits are supplied, and like, 430 00:31:48.460 --> 00:31:52.980 I'm like slayer, Van Halen, Pantera, fuck it. All that right. 431 00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:56.339 And here's my kid and he's a jock. You know, you know, 432 00:31:56.779 --> 00:32:01.210 she just assist gendered Jockey Kid that you would think, I don't know 433 00:32:01.289 --> 00:32:06.410 what he's listening to, but nope, it's fucking being Peter Satara, being 434 00:32:06.529 --> 00:32:09.130 air supply. I'm like, Whoa, Whoa, whoa. So, if 435 00:32:09.130 --> 00:32:14.170 you've got got any good yacht rocks B sides that I can throw Adam, 436 00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:15.400 because we're to the point now. We're just trying to trick each other with 437 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:20.960 even deeper cuts that we hadn't heard before, which did funny game to play 438 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.160 with a twenty year old getting Jim Croachy in there. Oh, he loves 439 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:30.990 Jim Croachy. Yeah, you would. Yeah, operator, build the roller, 440 00:32:30.109 --> 00:32:32.750 roller, Derby Queen, all that stuff, not just the the main 441 00:32:32.789 --> 00:32:37.109 hits like bad, bad Lou Roy Brown or anything he likes. He looks 442 00:32:37.150 --> 00:32:39.430 for the B sides. He's flipping me some mountain John I never heard in 443 00:32:39.509 --> 00:32:43.549 my whole life, like our. Okay, I'm like, well, Ellen 444 00:32:43.549 --> 00:32:46.779 John's got like eight million albums. So there's boundarby stuff we hadn't heard anyway. 445 00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:51.579 Yacht Rock, it's where it's at. People cool then. So see, 446 00:32:51.619 --> 00:32:55.579 we just had another bipolar style podcast where we weren't heavy into the therapy. 447 00:32:57.220 --> 00:33:00.569 We weren't into like medicine. We should. We should do one on 448 00:33:00.609 --> 00:33:04.250 medicine next time, though, because there's some new meds coming out and I 449 00:33:04.329 --> 00:33:08.410 saw an awesome commercial for vrai lar, not for Ai Lar. Have you 450 00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:15.680 seen the commercial with the ladies going mannic making sandwiches? It's funny. I 451 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.119 think it was on the CBS news APP that I watched through the Rocou stick, 452 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.039 but so vrai lar and I look for the commercial on the Youtube. 453 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.640 It's not there. Nobody, I mean it's kind of gone now, but 454 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:30.029 it showed a lady making like bologney sandwiches and peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches and 455 00:33:30.109 --> 00:33:35.910 she's sandwiches for like kids lunches and she's going real good there for a minute 456 00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:39.069 and then she starts cutting like crazy and putting peanut butter on the cheese. 457 00:33:39.309 --> 00:33:44.740 It just fucking up all the sandwiches like that looks like me. And then 458 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:49.099 Vrai lar for bipolar disorder, and like Oh it is me. That's a 459 00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:54.420 pretty good depictions. Just wonder if anybody else with bipolar disorder has seen the 460 00:33:54.539 --> 00:34:00.569 new VERI lar commercial with the lady fucking up all the sandwiches. It's probably 461 00:34:00.730 --> 00:34:02.009 have to try and find it now I'd look. Yeah, totally, look 462 00:34:02.009 --> 00:34:06.769 on Youtube. Look very lar sandwiches or I don't know who's going to pull 463 00:34:06.809 --> 00:34:09.039 that out, but good stuff. Yeah, I want to talk more about 464 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:15.159 mats. I'm starting to see a new psychiatrist shortly and I'll investigate meds, 465 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.360 not hip on it, because I'm doing okay without but I'm always open to 466 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.159 new ideas. So we'll see how that goes. And you just you started 467 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.789 rail are you said? Yeah, we oh shit. Well, let's do 468 00:34:28.869 --> 00:34:30.190 a podcast in about a month from now. We'll see how that's going. 469 00:34:30.269 --> 00:34:36.869 That should be enough time to tell yeah, hopefully nice. Okay, what 470 00:34:36.989 --> 00:34:38.059 do you want to promote? You want to say anything before we cut this 471 00:34:38.179 --> 00:34:45.179 out? That be word one, that bewordcom, Becky at that be word. 472 00:34:45.860 --> 00:34:47.579 Canny much anything with that be word. You, guys, are hearing 473 00:34:47.659 --> 00:34:52.860 what she's thrown down right, you're picking up what she's throwing down at that 474 00:34:52.809 --> 00:34:58.730 B word, just the letter B W R D, The number one at. 475 00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:02.690 That be word one. That's her twitter handle and that's what that B 476 00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:07.719 Wordcom is where you can find all of her other goodies. and Oh here, 477 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.920 listen to this for a quick give me six seconds. Join the party 478 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:17.559 at Bipolar Partycom, like she said. You could join the party at bipolar 479 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:25.230 PARTYCOM. And Hmm, yeah, I'm good. Follow me at Jay Lily 480 00:35:25.269 --> 00:35:30.829 show on twitter and, of course, at bipolar style. Bipolar stylecom due 481 00:35:30.869 --> 00:35:36.860 to do. And let's kick it over to your stuff. And thanks for 482 00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.460 coming on again, back. I really appreciate you and well look forward to 483 00:35:39.539 --> 00:35:51.769 a mad update on the next episode, styles on cheese and five following on 484 00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:57.250 twitter joys. Excuse mecom