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It's only now it's online Bible this
stylecom motions with Bible style. You GODDAMN
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motherfuckers. You fucking Walt in here. You think you know everything, don't
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you? Well, I fucking work
my fucking ass off and you sure as
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fuck I'm not gonna fucking blow wood
for me now. I'm now on.
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All your little bits are going to
be under two minutes in duration and all
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scripts, and I do mean all
scripts, require my personal approval. You
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see the kind of conditions I have
to work in around here. I'm over
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it, man, I'm over it. Hey, welcome back to Bipolarh Stil.
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I'm johnny motions, high top the
tenderloin in San Francisco, USA.
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So yeah, man, it's been
a pretty wild month. I've done another
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podcast, so I've talked quite a
bit about my experiences over there and I
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kind of felt like I had done
this podcast already. So I hope I
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don't repeat too many of those type
of things. Or if you heard that
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podcast, then you know you'll know
what I'm talking about. So wow,
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all right, this podcast. You
know I've been it's like episode twenty five.
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I didn't mean to do so many
episodes into season two here. Basically
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you do like, I don't know, like twelvesh episodes per season, and
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two seasons roughly equals a year.
It's kind of modeled after TV because I
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was drained in TV and just it's
what it's, what's ingrained in my brain.
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Also, in music you release albums
in sets of ten songs and sometimes
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a bonus song or two for somebody
they need little extra money. So anyway.
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But dozen't or so seems about right
when you mix the two metaphors of
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music industry and TV industry. But
with this show here, let me back
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up a step. You'll get a
lot of show here and twenty minutes because
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hey, you know I'm sometimes hypo
manic. Anyway. So back up.
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The reason I started this show originally
was because I wanted like a podcast that
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sounded like what's called a DBSA meeting. DBSA stands for depression and bipolar support
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alliance, and they have meetings all
around America. So in these meetings people
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go around the circle, they check
in, they say their name, they
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tell how their week was real quickly, like a scale of one hundred and
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ten. I had a shitty week, had a great week, and then
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they indicate whether or not they want
to share something specific more in depth later,
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so they can kind of work your
way around circle. And then the
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moderate will come up and said,
all right, we've got eight people that
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want to share. Let's start with
you know, we'll go clockwise and Bob
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on the left, you go first, and then Bob will say, okay,
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well, thanks. Yeah, Bob
here and well, you know,
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having a really hard time at work. My supervisors really big and getting on
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me and whatever. Okay, so
you get it. So I derive a
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lot of value from those meetings in
person and I noticed there were a lot
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of people that would drive for hours
literally to the meetings in San Francisco,
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which are fairly established. Well,
they're very established. They've been here twenty
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years, I think, and there's
people coming from like like Taho all the
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way down to San Francisco. So
I was thinking, man, there's got
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to be a way to do this
using technology, to put it on the
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Internet somehow, what the Hell?
So slowly put up like a yammer group
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was like I wanted to get off
of facebook and twitter in that I just
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I just want to like a private
kind of online forum that didn't really have
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the constrictive rules of a true national
organization run by professionals that were paid and
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things like that. I'm just not
that kind of person. I'm kind of
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like an anarchist. I just not
into rules and other people's groups and whatever.
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I wanted to start my own group
and mostly for the folks here in
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San Francisco, so that was cool. started mood swinger and everyone kind of
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did there and it was gold.
Did you know? It worked for exactly
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what I thought it intended it to
do. Right. So, HMM Oh,
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except they didn't work for me.
I moved away from San Francisco and
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then I realized, wait, okay, that well, part of it was
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that the technology, like Yammer,
was not the best thing for that,
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especially after Microsoft bought it kind of
wrecked it a little bit. Anyway,
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I don't want to go on a
rant there. So anyway, just the
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technology was not quiet what I was
looking for. I tried Google, hang
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out to tried just different stuff.
Anyway, the next thing I was like,
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well, I still what I really
missed kind of was hearing other people's
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stories. So I didn't it wasn't
the typing. I didn't need another exercise
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for my fingers. It wasn't staring
at another piece of plastic with lights behind
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it. I'm like, I don't
need to stay and it's not that.
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What I liked was hearing other people's
stories, getting the emotion in their voice,
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that sort of thing. And so, obviously, you know, it's
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twenty seventeen or eighteen, twenty seventeen
back then, and I'm like, well,
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Shit, a podcast, how about
that? But we do a podcast
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and my idea was like just put
in my in the middle of this DBSA
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meeting. Of course you can't just
go do that, because that's that's their
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group, that's their meeting, that's
that how they do their thing. No,
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no, I fuck. How do
I do this? Like, okay,
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let's go back to that old online
group thing and find people that want
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to do it. So I go
online and now the technology is slack.
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Do you guys use slack? When
I was in Los Angeles at a Tech
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Company, everybody was using slack.
So now we use slack. Excuse me.
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Yes, slack is just it was
super easy. You could put it
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in your pocket, you put it
on your phone and once you get an
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invite link, you can just go
forward your domain name to the invite link.
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Hold on one second, join the
party. Add bipolar PARTYCOM. Don't
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forget to join the party at bipolar
PARTYCOM and that. Oh that's pretty good
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timing actually, because that is the
domain name I bought and pointed it to
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my slack name, to my slack
invite link. I mean so if you
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go to bipolar PARTYCOM, it simply
goes to the IT public invite link for
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slack and the people are there.
We trust each other, we share,
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we chat, we talked, we
we might have disagreements down then, but
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generally I think most of the people
that go there have heard about the link
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for im either this show or Becky's
show, that B word, which talks
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about bipolar and borderline personality disorder.
So I think because of the nature of
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our shows, most of the people
that come there are already fairly politically correct
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and kind. So we've haven't had
to kick anybody out for being rude or
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being creepers or anything like that.
So that's that's pretty cool. But the
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problem is I still didn't have a
podcast. I'm like, well, I
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still didn't have my ideal of having
the circle of people sharing their stories in
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audio format for the world to hear, because I think that's one of the
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best ways to break down stigma,
is to let people share their stories in
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their own voices without any real rules. That way the listening public will start
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to understand, oh, these are
just fucking regular people that happen to be
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going through troubling emotions right now.
Let's help them instead of shun them with
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labels. You feel me? Don't
let me forget to tell you about the
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cat. Okay, anyway, even
with the online group now, bipolar party,
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you can't just put a microphone in
front of people and say hey,
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now, tell me your story.
It took a while, so we had
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to build trust with each other and
just learn how we were and just kind
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of check where each other's head was
with regards to, you know, what
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they wanted to do with life or
with their mental health activism or advocacy or
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whatever. I mean. Some people
just want to listen and chat and have
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no, they don't want to fucking
be on a podcast. That's some people
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are like, that's stupid. Why
would I want to do that? But
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there are several people now at bipolar
Partycom that are into this idea of podcasting
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as a group, which I think
is fantastic because I'm that much closer now
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to having the bipolar style show be
a group of four, five, six
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people with a moderator sharing maybe each
week their stories there, their successes,
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their troubles, but really just getting
it off of their shoulders and letting the
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listening public know. You know,
the kinds of things we go through and
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to the extent that the external world
affects our feelings. I guess that's a
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good way to put it. The
cat anyway, I should tell you about
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the cat real quick before I move
on. So if you've listened to the
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other podcasts, Oh, here's one
thing about starting to podcast. If you
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want to get into the mental health
advocacy game, the podcasting things sounds easy,
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but man it's hard. If you're
like a a perfectionist or a betterist,
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I'm like, I call myself a
betterist. I don't think there's such
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thing really has perfection, but man, you could always make things a little
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bit fucking better right like, especially
with podcasts, the main thing is the
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sound of the audio. If the
audio sucks, then your podcasts sucks.
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So sorry about that tangent, but
I'm like, well, so I can
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just go deep in like the the
toys. Basically spend too much money on
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toys, the microphone, the fucking
preamp, the chords, the whole thing,
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the software, you can go off
and get lost in that. But
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when it comes to the mental health
part, it's hard to actually pick up
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a brand like because I had to
start to realize like doing a podcast feels
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like putting on your clothes. So
each time I was doing a podcast,
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I'm going, I'm wearing the same
fucking clothes again, and I wanted to
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change my clothes. I wanted to
do a podcast about this and then about
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that and about this. So you
have to be careful with with the hosts
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that you choose, because the first
host I was with, there's nothing wrong
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with them, it's just that hold
on one second, because I see all
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this background stuff about to come up. I'm going to move it over,
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trying to record everything live fed over
there. Well, I've been talking twelve
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minutes. Shit, man, we
better get on it, because you got
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work to do and I got okay, anyway, change podcast host because the
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other one wanted to charge for each
additional RSS feed, which is basically each
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show you they wanted to charge for
a whole new account and I'm like no,
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dude, I'm just not. I'm
hardly using any storage any bandwidth.
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I just want to try different logos
and brands and names and ideas for shows
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and help other people start. There's
even if we only do one or two
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episodes. I just wanted to have
that freedom to change up a bit.
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So if that's your thinking, be
careful which host you choose, because that's
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the thing. You know some are
better for other things. There's like four
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or five great podcast hosts and just
do your research, as lots of places
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you can find out about them anyway. So that was one of the issues.
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I had to end up changing RSS
Feeds for this particular show, sirens.
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So we got that straightened out and
I think I probably mentioned it several
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times when I was doing the logo. When you do the artwork for a
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podcast, it should be readable at
super, super tiny size, like thumbnail
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size on a telephone, because sometimes
it's you know, people are scrolling through
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either your twitter account or the artwork
on Itunes, fucking podcast or whatever.
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So if your artwork has lots of
detail and says words and Shit in it
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and you're not going to read it. It's going to be a big BLOB
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at a super tiny size. Also, Oh, here's the thing. Right
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before I put out a logo,
I read article that said depressed people like
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logos with faces in them. Like, I'm like what you like Colonel Sanders
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and things like that. I'm like, God, whatever, okay, so
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I whipped out a logo that was
a face just for that and that turned
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out cool. But you know,
even though it's a cool logo and I've
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got a stored that sells shirts and
I don't have to fulfill that on my
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own. It's kind of all automated. Yeah, I don't make any money
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selling shirts them, not even enough
to cover hosting for a month. So
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if you're getting into podcasting thinking you'd
going to make a bunch of money with
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merchandise or tshirt sales or anything like
that, man, that's a bad idea.
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Don't do that. Just have just
but make sure your art school,
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you know what I mean. Make
sure it stands out and it's easy to
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understand and and it means something to
you if you happen to be a designer,
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and then, fuck yeah, do
it yourself, because then it means
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it's that much more right and definitely
build an an audience somewhere off of the
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social media, like email lists.
I have my own website. I've always
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had a website of some sort at
whatever, whatevercom. You can go to
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buipolar stylecom. I think that currently
points directly to the itunes feed, the
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new feed, hopefully the one you're
now subscribe to, but that's only temporary.
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Eventually I'll point that back to its
full website, like if you go
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to Johnnymotionscom, that's kind of a
typical website. If you're going to put
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together something in the podcasting blog realm, you want to be able to capture
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people's email addresses, not to spam
them. Like how many times have I
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emailed you? Like some of you, lots of you, actually have signed
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up to my email list and you
know that I've never spammed you. I've
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never even sent you an email.
I should probably do that. I should
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probably email all the old subscribers on
the old feed and the people at the
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original bipolar party that I kind of
left behind. Sorry about that, folks,
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kind of like an Irish goodbye.
pull the SHAMROCK. I started a
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party and kind of backed out the
door said bye anyway, but I do
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have those email addresses, so I
can email them and now invite them to
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the new bipolar party, to website
as I change and and all that good
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stuff. So, anyway, highly
recommend having your own website couch just for
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that, just for collecting email addresses, so that you can keep your fans,
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regardless what the social media of the
week is. Now you know what
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I mean. Oh here, here's
the this thing drove me crazy at first.
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I thought, yeah, I want
to hear everyone's voice, because remember
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what, I liked the group idea
and that was hard to build a group.
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So I thought, well, let
me interview one at a time.
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Okay, that's difficult because the people
you're trying to interview are I don't know
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what fucking world they're from. Honestly, there's a handful that are professional.
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They know how to use CAD calidly, you know, like a link on
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the Internet that points you to an
Internet calendar that comes to my email.
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But you know they're with the program
they fucking get it and they show up
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here. They are here, they
are on skype right on time and I
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could interview them and they come prepared
with answers to questions and a lot of
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times I ask questions that are not
on script at all, which is fun.
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It makes for a great interview,
but there are a lot of people
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that don't show up. They flake
the excuses or whatever. That's difficult to
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deal with, especially because I'm the
sick one. I'm fucking I'm sick to
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right so I don't have time to
chase people around doing one on one interviews,
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especially if I'm going to like interview
your for for your fucking thing.
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If it's your thing already, it's
an obligation to me to showcase you and
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focus on your thing as well as
I can. But then if you're not
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even to show up for your own
thing, forget it right. That's dumb.
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That reminds me of when I was
in the music business and somebody would
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give me there like demo, as
if it were a gift, and I'm
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like, Dude, motherfucker, that's
an obligation. That is not a gift.
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Giving me your shit to play or
to listen to or to do whatever
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is always been an obligation. People
that are creative, when you're in a
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band and whatnot, you think it's
a gift. Because your ego says,
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oh my shit, so great here, but now, if you're trying to
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put together a show, you hear
a lot of stuff and a lot of
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people stuff is not that great,
worse, but yeah, wouldn't even been
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a problem if people just show up
anyway. Just became an issue of like
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will fuck it, I'm going to
do my own show. I'm just going
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to talk. Why not? I
can talk a long time. Just keep
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on fucking talking. But again that
led to the problem I ran into most
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recently. In the past several months, I started to realize that the more
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I focused on the fucking bipolar thing, the more bipolar I felt, which
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seems pretty obvious if you think about
it. If you keep running around saying
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you're bad at math, then obviously
the world around you is going to support
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that. You suck at and math. Same type of thing. I looked
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into labeling theory. have been into
that for a while. What you become
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what you get labeled, and since
bipolar disorder is so vague, it's very
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squishy. You know, you can't
quite get at it, I'm a lot
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more hesitant to just embrace that label
because it's not going to be the same
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label twenty years from now, it's
not going to be the same label two
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hundred years from now. You know
what I mean. So I've become a
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lot less happy to say, yeah, I'm bipolar, like, who cares?
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WHO gives a fuck? Honestly,
I don't care what you are.
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I care what you do and how
you feel like. How do you feel
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on your day to day existence and
what do you do? Like? Let's
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talk about those things. I don't
Fuck Your label. I don't really care
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that you're bipolar. Here's why I
don't care, because I have like eight
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of these things and they keep losing
track of how many Goddamn disorders I've been
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labeled with. So, I mean, some people think that that might be
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controversial or provocative, and frankly it's
to me. It's so not controversial or
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provocative. I could give a fuck
about that argument at all. Like everything
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we've thought turns out to be wrong. It always does. Science evolves,
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religion evolves, everything changed. So
for anybody to stop right now in two
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thousand and eighteen and say, nope, this is what it is and this
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is all it's going to be in
the so fucking arrogance. No, it's
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not things will change. Don't get
all wrapped up in your label. We
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are not our labels, so be
careful of the ones you embrace there.
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They're great for categorizing things and for
moving conversations forward, but they're also used
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to protect your ego go they're also
used to thwart progress and they're also used
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to just diminish secondary people. What
the Fuck is secondary people? Hmm,
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Oh, the cat. Yeah,
so it's hard to find a real cat,
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apparently. I look on craigslist and
there's lots of people putting fake ads,
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trying to collect your information and then
ultimately telling you, okay, by
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the way, I live threezero miles
away and I'm going to send you the
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cat in a box on an airplane
after you paypal me four hundred dollars,
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like what? Now? That's a
common scheme on craigslist, apparently. Anyway,
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I was work in the front desk
at a hotel. I run give
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my employees the time off to go
do the fourth of July party, and
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some dude came up and said,
Hey, I heard y'all was looking for
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a kitten and I'm like, what
do you mean, like personally? He's
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all, yeah, yeah, I
heard she was looking for a cat and
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like Oh what, because I didn't
want a cop to it because I picky
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about what it looks like, and
I was a phrase, it's going to
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show me some ugly ass cat that
I didn't really want. So I'm all
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yeah, let me see. So
he had a picture on his phone.
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He showed me and the cat was
hello, cute. So, long story
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short, ended up get the cat. I've got a cute cat. He
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siding out in that room over there
because he's a maniac after dark and I
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can't podcast with him in here.
But he's awesome them and take lots of
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pictures of them put them on instagram. His name's Zeke and at nighttime he
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becomes Ming, the merciless. Yeah, okay. So here's what we're going
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to do. I need you to
prepare yourself, because I'm not. If
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you want to like listen to me
ramble, go subscribe to Johnny Emotions.
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Got It. Like these kind of
shows, the bipolar style show that's in
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this RSS feed. Starting in season
three, probably two or three more episodes
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will be that ultimate idea I had
of like a group of people sharing their
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stories each week. Cool. Now
what we need is more people to share
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their stories, because right now we
got a solid core of people that could
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support the show moving forward. But
if we keep doing that with the same
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people, it's going to sound like
a cast. You know, I don't
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want to sound like a the same
cast on the show every time, like
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Chopo traphouse or something. I wanted
to actually rotate with new people each time.
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So please go to bipolar PARTYCOM and
join us. Learn to trust us.
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will learn to trust you. And
get your gear together. Typically,
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if you have a wired headset that
goes into your computer and Ethernet cable into
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the back of your computer, that's
plenty. Some people try Wi fi and
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Bluetooth, but then it sucks because
the audio sucks. And how would you
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like the audio in your ears right
now to suck? You wouldn't? You
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want it to sound great. So
please do that. If you want to
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join us on the upcoming episodes of
bipolar style, get a headset, Mike
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with a cable to your computer and
a chord for your Internet. Got It.
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That's funny. I'm like, here's
how you do it. You have
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to do it this way. Well, I'm just fucking I'm tired of hearing
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Shitty Quality Audio, I won't listen
to podcasts in general because I'm tired of
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routing through the ones that have crappy
audio. I go to podcast meet up
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groups here in San Francisco and Oakland
and we talked about that a lot.
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A lot of the new people coming
on that are starting to make their own
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shows one of their biggest complaints is
poor audio. So there is a right
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way to do good audio. However, if you're getting into the mental health
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advocacy thing, there are actually no
right ways or wrong ways to advocate.
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There's only your way. So don't
let people try to hijack your language.
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Clearly it's best if you're sharing facts, but a lot of times sharing facts
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in different lights provokes people and that's
okay. But you got to keep the
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conversation open. Don't be scared to
engage. People have different styles, people
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have different personalities, but generally speaking, you know, go out there and
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be yourself. Just be open.
Don't try to shut people down. You
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don't get to control the language.
Nobody controls the language. The moment somebody
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thinks that they're in charge of the
language is the moment we've stopped progress.
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And then the thing about stigma and
mental health. That's trippy. When I
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talk with mark the other week.
So apparently the best way to get around
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stigma or destroy stigma. Excuse me, or who, however you wanted to
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talk about disintegrating stigma, is to
do better. So we have to highlight
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our successes. Nobody cares about when
we're depressed. Come on, remember the
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old cliche. Smile and the whole
world smiles with you cry and you cry
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alone. That's so true. I
mean, if you just need the Internet
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because you want likes and that clicks
on your Sarah telling and your dopamine in
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your brain and that actually makes you
feel better, there's some science to that,
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sure, but I mean really that
you've just on the Internet to get
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clicks and likes. Permission to do
that. Back, I never prove much
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crap. God Damn it, you're
fire. Pack up the Shit. I'm
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not kiddyway yet the fuck up.
Fly like plate. It gets me at
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the BOTTS for name. If you
come around, Hey, we working all
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day. Your Life gonna Passy in
the second. If you wait, I
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fly like people get highlight plane.
If you get me at the border,
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I don't want to my name.
If you come around. Hey, we
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working all day. Your Life Gone
Bessy in the second if you wait.
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Just like just a change. When
I'm sitting on trains. Ever since we're
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getting see with clocking that game.
Got For dinner. The world does inflame
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bona fire hustles making that change.
Just like just a change when I'm sitting
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on trains. EVERST that we're getting
to we' clock in that game. Don't
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for dinner. The world's in flame
for a fire hustle loves making that change.
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That all I want to do.
And up and taking money. All
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I wanna do it, and and
taking whatever. All they wanna do it,
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and and taking money. All they
wanna do it. And and taking
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six is down and bullets in browns
running when we hit a lit took poison
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for the system. Subscribe to bile
is all on eye cheese, a squatify.
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Following on on twitter joyless excuses me
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