Oct. 9, 2017

Rebranding "bipolar" one podcast at a time.

John and Fiona talk about building a better podcast for bipolar people, including the factors involved in selecting a platform for the social media activities. John wonders how to reach more women and people of color struggling with mental health...


John and Fiona talk about building a better podcast for bipolar people, including the factors involved in selecting a platform for the social media activities. John wonders how to reach more women and people of color struggling with mental health issues and shares his story about missing the DBSA picnic by 50 feet due to social anxiety.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:10.710 Welcome back to bipolar style, the podcast for bipolar people and those who love 2 00:00:10.869 --> 00:00:17.469 them. Join US online at bipolar stylecom and now use your host, Johnny 3 00:00:17.469 --> 00:00:22.899 emotion. Hey, thanks, Jules, and thank you for tuning in to 4 00:00:23.379 --> 00:00:27.699 the bipolar style podcast. I'm your host, Johnny emotions, like she said, 5 00:00:28.420 --> 00:00:31.100 and this episode is cool. This is the first time I get to 6 00:00:31.339 --> 00:00:36.170 interview somebody testing out the audio. I had one of my closest friends from 7 00:00:36.250 --> 00:00:41.689 Louisiana call in and we're going to have a conversation. If this first conversation 8 00:00:41.890 --> 00:00:46.850 is a lot about how we're building the PODCAST and establishing social media channels and 9 00:00:46.969 --> 00:00:52.159 things like that. So I hope you enjoy it and I'm glad she is 10 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:57.039 a woman because it gives the audio a little more contrast and I look forward 11 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.759 to having more guests in the future. So I think you probably like this 12 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.670 one, one of the best episode so far. So enjoy and follow US 13 00:01:04.670 --> 00:01:12.069 along on the Internet's twitter at Bipolar Style and on the web bipolar stylecom. 14 00:01:12.670 --> 00:01:19.340 Cool. Take a listen. If it's recording, okay, it's recording and 15 00:01:19.659 --> 00:01:23.340 I don't edit. The only thing I edit is yes, you do. 16 00:01:23.659 --> 00:01:27.980 I edit out that when I go because it's super loud and when I watch 17 00:01:29.019 --> 00:01:33.329 it go by in the editing software is this giant peak that covers the whole 18 00:01:33.769 --> 00:01:38.450 spectrum. I have never even noticed you doing that, because I add that 19 00:01:38.609 --> 00:01:42.489 out. I don't edit anything else. I cut out a big Joh yeah, 20 00:01:42.489 --> 00:01:48.040 because in real life it's it's not. They're like a chipmunk. So, 21 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:53.640 Fiona, it is. That's okay, like from Shrek, isn't? 22 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:59.280 The princess and an ogre? At the end she turned out to be an 23 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:05.189 ogre princess. That's cool, and it's also similar to the name of your 24 00:02:05.230 --> 00:02:12.990 cat. Philon zone is Philanzonia. Yeah, okay, cool. So I 25 00:02:13.430 --> 00:02:15.979 will start and we'll so we'll assume the music and the intro just happens, 26 00:02:16.139 --> 00:02:21.500 but I actually might just jump in like an edit something and say, Hey, 27 00:02:21.620 --> 00:02:23.860 okay, I was talking about Blah Blah Blah, putting together podcast and 28 00:02:24.020 --> 00:02:29.099 my good friend Fiona decided that she'd come on and talk to me about it 29 00:02:29.259 --> 00:02:31.250 on the air. So here's that phone conversation. It might be something like 30 00:02:31.330 --> 00:02:32.930 that. You know, I might have like a set up. Yeah, 31 00:02:32.969 --> 00:02:36.969 so it doesn't matter how we start. Honestly, could just faded up and 32 00:02:37.210 --> 00:02:40.490 all of a sudden we're talking. Okay, so, Hey, what's up, 33 00:02:40.569 --> 00:02:46.800 Fiona Hoddy? Thanks for taking my call. Well, you're so welcome. 34 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:53.639 Here's my thought. So, okay, Fiona isn't is Fiona's real name 35 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.360 either. It's like, you know, the stigma is real, but I 36 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.789 we just want private lives. But here's the thing. I think more podcast 37 00:03:01.909 --> 00:03:07.949 like these need female voices and people of colors voices, especially that, because 38 00:03:07.949 --> 00:03:14.139 I noticed in most of the online mental health warrior type people hashtags, there's 39 00:03:14.659 --> 00:03:16.099 less that I'm just not looking in the right places. I don't see that 40 00:03:16.099 --> 00:03:20.740 many people of color compared to how many white people are out there shaking their 41 00:03:20.819 --> 00:03:24.340 flags. That's a really, really good point. I can think of a 42 00:03:24.460 --> 00:03:29.129 couple that I know that might be willing home on. This is the thing 43 00:03:29.409 --> 00:03:32.650 we have to you have to get a new twitter account for Fiona so that, 44 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:37.849 yeah, people that hear your voice here will know that they can follow 45 00:03:37.849 --> 00:03:40.009 you, because maybe they don't want to follow a dude or dudes voice, 46 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:46.000 but maybe they feel more comfortable following a woman. Yeah, that's a good 47 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.439 call. I'll do that. Cool. So, yeah, people of Color 48 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.759 and women probably, I would imagine, have more. Stop me if I'm 49 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:59.469 stereotyping, but they might have more mental health issues just from the oppression of 50 00:03:59.590 --> 00:04:02.229 society than a white man. But I'm not a doctor, so I don't 51 00:04:02.229 --> 00:04:11.780 know about that. Seems I seemed possible say oppressed groups would be under more 52 00:04:11.939 --> 00:04:18.060 stress. So if you have an issue where you don't respond to stress well 53 00:04:19.180 --> 00:04:24.649 and you also happen to be under more stress because you're outside, yeah, 54 00:04:24.649 --> 00:04:29.129 you're an oppressed class for sure. Right, cool. So I'm only sort 55 00:04:29.170 --> 00:04:31.410 of talking, I guess, only talking out of my but a little bit. 56 00:04:32.170 --> 00:04:34.769 It's good that here, because I talked of my out of my ass 57 00:04:34.810 --> 00:04:41.000 a lot when I'm by myself all alone, talking here some yeah, because 58 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.639 I get off on these rants. I make my little notes in my Google 59 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:45.720 keep and I pull up my phone and like, okay, I'm going to 60 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.000 just talk about this one and talk about this one and then I'll then I'm 61 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:53.949 out, but I'll get on that first topic and then I'll trail off and 62 00:04:54.029 --> 00:04:57.829 I'll hit like the whole talk down thought. Yeahs you want to talk about? 63 00:04:57.829 --> 00:04:59.949 Yeah, because like when I take the train to work or whatever, 64 00:04:59.990 --> 00:05:02.029 I have a few minutes to my head, to myself and I'm like, 65 00:05:02.149 --> 00:05:05.110 Oh, yeah, that's that's dwell, I've been dwelling on that. That 66 00:05:05.189 --> 00:05:09.660 should be an issue for a podcast. So well, yeah, yeah, 67 00:05:09.699 --> 00:05:13.060 I try to keep it organized, but make it a podcast. Is is 68 00:05:13.100 --> 00:05:16.579 a lot of work for regular folks and sometimes I'm like, did I bite 69 00:05:16.620 --> 00:05:18.980 off more than I can chew? But it's kind of fun because I can't 70 00:05:18.980 --> 00:05:23.170 get out to group all the time and I don't have a therapist. Did 71 00:05:23.209 --> 00:05:27.089 you get to go like once a week or something? I can, but 72 00:05:27.449 --> 00:05:30.529 there's the anxiety bit. Oh here's something we could talk about. This is 73 00:05:30.610 --> 00:05:33.410 funny because you would totally relate because you've probably experienced this with me sometimes. 74 00:05:34.050 --> 00:05:39.560 So last Sunday, I think it was Saturday or Sunday, over at a 75 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:45.439 park in San Francisco, the DBSA, the depression by Polar Support Alliance folks. 76 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:48.879 We're putting on their their youth group. Anyway, we're putting on a 77 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.670 picnic at Dolores Park. My God, that's going to be fucking cool. 78 00:05:53.670 --> 00:05:55.750 That'd be great. It's going to be a beautiful day in the city. 79 00:05:55.790 --> 00:05:58.670 I'll go over the city and pick up what I need and go to the 80 00:05:58.709 --> 00:06:01.589 park and just hang out with people that can relate sounds great, right. 81 00:06:01.589 --> 00:06:08.899 Yeah, so I get up there and of course it's the youth group. 82 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:12.740 It's not my people, it's not the people I normally go to, and 83 00:06:13.420 --> 00:06:16.699 they all look cool and pretty sure that that's them right there with the blue 84 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:23.329 and white balloons, looking around like do I recognize? Kind of recognize one 85 00:06:23.410 --> 00:06:26.850 person, just enough to confirm that, Yep, that's the DBSA group. 86 00:06:27.529 --> 00:06:30.250 And then what kicks in the anxiety? I was like, I don't know, 87 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:32.959 he's fucking people and like it's still a beautiful day in the park. 88 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:39.759 So I ended up sitting about fifty feet away from everybody that didn't they didn't 89 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:44.680 know me and I didn't know them, but I kind of like Perif peripherally, 90 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.629 like vicary's. They enjoyed the party just I'm sitting over here and it 91 00:06:47.709 --> 00:06:50.470 didn't look like they brought a lot of food or or drinks or whatnot. 92 00:06:50.509 --> 00:06:54.189 That my own snacks with me. So I just kind of sat there and 93 00:06:54.230 --> 00:06:58.269 watch that. Okay, there's some bipolar people and I'm a bipolar people and 94 00:06:58.629 --> 00:07:00.069 we're in a park and this kind of counts right. So I took a 95 00:07:00.110 --> 00:07:03.100 picture I haven't posted. I should put it up on fucking twitter, but 96 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:06.660 I took a picture from my vantage point like a stalker, like there's the 97 00:07:06.740 --> 00:07:12.379 party I toold everybody was going to. I'm not actually there, but there 98 00:07:12.420 --> 00:07:15.170 it is. I made it this far. That you went though, right, 99 00:07:15.250 --> 00:07:17.730 I broke out and I made it and I got as far as I 100 00:07:17.930 --> 00:07:20.970 could. But that social peace at the end where you have to like, 101 00:07:21.370 --> 00:07:25.290 wh hi, I'm a new guy, how are you? I can't fucking 102 00:07:25.329 --> 00:07:28.769 do that today. Well, and you probably could have done it if you'd 103 00:07:28.769 --> 00:07:31.959 recognized more people and if they'd been your age group. Sometimes, yeah, 104 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.680 and sometimes it even takes somebody to recognize me to say, Oh hey, 105 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:40.439 John, come over and if that doesn't get that, this now, right, 106 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.319 right, like a tractor. Mean, but if that doesn't happen, 107 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.029 I kind of make up every excuse not to him, like a hope. 108 00:07:46.589 --> 00:07:51.269 New People, people. They don't even have chapters of it here. So 109 00:07:51.509 --> 00:07:56.670 hard, you know, like remember my my disgust and trying to find one 110 00:07:56.709 --> 00:07:59.139 in La proper, and then I wanted to start. Oh Yeah, all 111 00:07:59.180 --> 00:08:01.819 that, for sure. Yeah, they had like the one that I did 112 00:08:01.860 --> 00:08:05.300 find was on Broadway in La with the roll up door straight to the sidewalk 113 00:08:05.379 --> 00:08:09.660 and we were trying to have a group with literally people walking three feet away 114 00:08:09.660 --> 00:08:13.889 down downtown Broadway in La. Yeah, that was nuts. The Pasadena one 115 00:08:13.009 --> 00:08:16.649 was cool, but again, it's like if there's not a viable one in 116 00:08:16.730 --> 00:08:20.490 downtown La and you got to go all the way to Pasadena, I could 117 00:08:20.490 --> 00:08:24.689 not imagine for someone in Shreveport, or let alone jennings or someplace like that. 118 00:08:24.930 --> 00:08:28.199 I mean, and you know thousands of other little cities across America. 119 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:37.000 So I guess I'm Fortun area, Peoria. What's the Illinois with one of 120 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:43.149 those I states? I. Yeah, and this week sucked on top of 121 00:08:43.230 --> 00:08:48.549 it because of all the shooting. A machine guy, a fucking machine and 122 00:08:48.789 --> 00:08:50.990 what? Yeah, yeah, so bad. Yeah, to have help. 123 00:08:52.909 --> 00:08:58.259 I am persuaded that he had to have help, help and didn't get help. 124 00:08:58.500 --> 00:09:01.059 Yeah, I'm sure it will turn out. They were all the classic 125 00:09:01.220 --> 00:09:05.779 signs metally ill. You don't think so? That begs the question, though, 126 00:09:05.820 --> 00:09:09.700 right, like, I don't know. My mom thinks he was radicalized 127 00:09:09.820 --> 00:09:13.129 in some way. That's that's the conspiracy going around on a lot of the 128 00:09:13.409 --> 00:09:16.490 conservative talk radio. That's the thing I did that I'm in the bay area 129 00:09:16.529 --> 00:09:20.850 because I'm a big liberal, lefty progressive anyway. But during work I get 130 00:09:20.929 --> 00:09:24.000 in the work truck and I turn in far right talk radio. The here 131 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.639 what they're talking about. Yeah, so they're totally pushing conspiracy theories that he 132 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:33.519 was rattled radicalized by Isis that about that kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, 133 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.840 there's a lot of talk that he's by about Isis, but I also 134 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.789 don't know, like what else it could be. Well, you know me, 135 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:46.389 I'm the classic conspiracy theorist in that sense where I'm like, well, 136 00:09:46.429 --> 00:09:50.309 I don't see a video of that motherfucker shooting anything. I see a picture 137 00:09:50.309 --> 00:09:52.500 of a guy and I see a picture of some legs in a hotel room 138 00:09:52.740 --> 00:09:56.659 and I see guns and I see you know, fact, fact, fact, 139 00:09:56.779 --> 00:09:58.539 but at none of them add up to that's actually the guy. So 140 00:09:58.580 --> 00:10:01.539 in my mind, like, let's see, the government put a guy in 141 00:10:01.620 --> 00:10:05.779 there to shoot him up. Isis was up there with him and killed him. 142 00:10:05.860 --> 00:10:07.490 Makes Sense, though, why don't? None of it makes sense, 143 00:10:09.009 --> 00:10:11.690 like that's not how any of this works really, right? So Sad. 144 00:10:11.850 --> 00:10:15.690 Yeah, just they haven't come up with a narrative that makes sense yet. 145 00:10:16.370 --> 00:10:20.330 Bad, just bad anyway. So a lot of US woke up to that 146 00:10:20.529 --> 00:10:24.000 on Monday. Mornings like. Yeah, that was one of the most maddic 147 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.559 these hundreds of miles away. That is traumatic. And I didn't know anybody 148 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.360 at the concert. I've never heard of Jason Aldean Song, although I've heard 149 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.750 his name before. Yeah, but we were just there a few months ago, 150 00:10:37.429 --> 00:10:41.110 right, like remember the punk rock bowling we're what if somebody decided to 151 00:10:41.110 --> 00:10:43.909 shoot up a bunch of punk rockers? Exactly? That's the aunts a father 152 00:10:45.110 --> 00:10:48.110 looking for right there. Or ANTIFA, as they say. ANTIFA, what 153 00:10:48.230 --> 00:10:50.580 the fuck, I know. How do you actually say it? Well, 154 00:10:50.659 --> 00:10:54.659 maybe if it's just, if it's a kind, if it's a condensing of 155 00:10:54.740 --> 00:11:00.059 anti fascist, wouldn't be ANTIFA? ANTIFA, ANTIFA and far right right. 156 00:11:00.139 --> 00:11:03.620 It's how I say it, except I know somebody who's like with them and 157 00:11:03.860 --> 00:11:07.210 they say Antifa. Well, they've been watching too much Fox News then. 158 00:11:07.649 --> 00:11:11.129 I don't know. Maybe they were just staying it that way to joke. 159 00:11:11.250 --> 00:11:13.370 Egally say it, I don't know, but it sounds just more like tea 160 00:11:13.490 --> 00:11:18.759 party and TIFA. Yeah, it sounds like completely missing them, pointing and 161 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.919 the whole thing is here's my take on the ANTIFA in general is that people 162 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.200 think it's a group like we must shut them down, like call up their 163 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.039 right headquarters and demand. They're saying you step a sign. Yeah, I'm 164 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.669 like, it's just a spontaneous reaction of normal people to fascism. That's what 165 00:11:35.830 --> 00:11:39.750 that's how I send. Some of those normal people were smart enough to, 166 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:43.470 you know, bring face coverings right. Yeah, because they got they got 167 00:11:43.549 --> 00:11:48.019 day jobs and they're unaffiliated voters and they just see the rise of fascism as 168 00:11:48.059 --> 00:11:52.460 a bad thing. There was an article just recently about how, even with 169 00:11:52.580 --> 00:11:54.820 your face mostly covered, like even if they can only see your eyes, 170 00:11:54.899 --> 00:11:58.500 they're and going to be able to identify people. Oh yeah, we were 171 00:11:58.539 --> 00:12:03.889 talking about this yesterday. There's gate technology that walks how people, that detects 172 00:12:03.970 --> 00:12:07.370 how? Yeah, for sure, and it's muscular and not muscular but skeletal, 173 00:12:07.690 --> 00:12:11.490 and you cannot change the way skill to some literally like a lift or 174 00:12:11.529 --> 00:12:16.639 some crazy shit. And even then Ai Intel, artificial intelligence, can detect 175 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.600 that you probably did that because now you're the only goofball walking with the goofy 176 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.679 limp and it will sort those limpers out at first and recalculate. So it 177 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:30.029 is amazing. And they say gate technology is more accurate than your thumb print. 178 00:12:30.909 --> 00:12:35.029 So well that and they are finding people with that's prints that match people 179 00:12:35.029 --> 00:12:37.309 from two different parts of the world who are alive at the same time, 180 00:12:37.429 --> 00:12:41.669 but who's prints throw up as matching in the that's nuts. Right. In 181 00:12:41.750 --> 00:12:45.899 the future I'm going to start walking like a DORC, like monty python or 182 00:12:45.940 --> 00:12:52.580 something. Just Google's really long. I'm wondering how quickly, how soon, 183 00:12:52.700 --> 00:12:58.730 it's going to be before the makeup that right now looks crazy with like white 184 00:12:58.809 --> 00:13:01.090 and black triangles on your face, that kind of stuff. Yeah, but 185 00:13:01.289 --> 00:13:05.889 how long do you think it takes before that becomes in, like that's a 186 00:13:05.009 --> 00:13:09.529 thing that just normal people just put on their makeup like that? Yeah, 187 00:13:09.529 --> 00:13:11.129 yeah, they'll be like the bandaid type stickers, you know, you just 188 00:13:11.370 --> 00:13:15.919 temporary and in all their yeah, plus the the stick the bandage of the 189 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.360 future will of digital technology that will seep into your pores, nanotech, and 190 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.799 that's going to be exciting to future. That's deep future. So okay, 191 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.789 anyway for it. Yeah, right, I can't wait all apart in the 192 00:13:26.830 --> 00:13:31.909 next ten years. True, Elon Musk has a good head on his shoulders. 193 00:13:31.950 --> 00:13:35.870 I like people like think like him. He was he was getting many, 194 00:13:35.190 --> 00:13:39.669 he was getting into it with some cartoonist about the singularity and whatnot. 195 00:13:39.710 --> 00:13:43.299 Last night it is pretty funny. Oh really, yeah, good times. 196 00:13:43.860 --> 00:13:46.940 So okay with the show though. So all right, here's where I'm stuck. 197 00:13:48.620 --> 00:13:50.899 The podcasting part is pretty easy, like you could tell, we're making 198 00:13:50.899 --> 00:13:54.970 a podcast right now and the sound sounds good and you go over to five 199 00:13:56.210 --> 00:14:00.210 and get a voiceover artist for the front and my friend Ray made some music. 200 00:14:00.529 --> 00:14:03.409 Should I stick with the same music or say, if actually find music 201 00:14:03.490 --> 00:14:05.409 eventually, I want to pick one song and stick with it because I believe 202 00:14:05.409 --> 00:14:09.809 in like the power, the power of a tone, like the Intel child 203 00:14:09.970 --> 00:14:11.519 or stuff like that. Well, it's stuff like that. has to be 204 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.159 either, like you said, the chime from that or the Netflix boom boom, 205 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.919 yeah, or you know, something like that, or it has to 206 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.149 be an earworm. Right, right. I like the song, the short 207 00:14:24.190 --> 00:14:28.669 one. Yeah, that's song that's playing right now on this episode. Is 208 00:14:28.269 --> 00:14:33.110 called Brazil, the theme from Brazil. It's like an old class Oh yeah, 209 00:14:33.389 --> 00:14:35.710 I love that one. But yeah, people wonder like what the fuck 210 00:14:35.789 --> 00:14:39.340 is that mean? What's Brazil all about? So that's one of my all 211 00:14:39.419 --> 00:14:43.659 time favorite sci fi movies about a dystopy tract. I wonder how much it 212 00:14:43.659 --> 00:14:46.179 would cost to license that. I don't know. You need to have I 213 00:14:46.259 --> 00:14:50.740 guess I'll find out if they ever send the site, send a sea synthesis 214 00:14:50.820 --> 00:14:54.929 letter to me. I'll find out one day. They so funny, but 215 00:14:54.690 --> 00:14:58.250 I don't know, not too concerned about it. Some people have whole podcast 216 00:14:58.330 --> 00:15:01.889 with like nothing but UN licensed music, broly, like illegal, like license 217 00:15:01.929 --> 00:15:05.929 music that they're not paying for R and they'll have like a whole you know, 218 00:15:07.009 --> 00:15:11.559 quote unquote, radio type show. Strange Huh. Anyway. But my 219 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.320 bigger concern is here, and this is always the thing, like I want 220 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.799 to connect people, and there goes that want to connect people in the real 221 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:24.429 world at the meetings, to people that listen to the podcast, to people 222 00:15:24.509 --> 00:15:26.870 that are on social media, because I think that's three distinctly different types of 223 00:15:26.950 --> 00:15:31.710 people. My biggest hurdle right now is finding people that are on social media 224 00:15:31.870 --> 00:15:35.220 to actually figure out how to work a podcast, because that's not that's not 225 00:15:35.340 --> 00:15:39.419 the easiest thing in it we're that's a new thing. I mean podcast have 226 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:45.299 been around a long time and I have and I'm usually up on tech stuff, 227 00:15:45.419 --> 00:15:48.980 Yep, but I've kind of resisted them in part because don't drive all 228 00:15:50.009 --> 00:15:54.610 that much long distances, yea anywhere, and that's where I usually listen to 229 00:15:54.690 --> 00:16:00.409 things on CD or whatever. HMM. But just sitting down and listening to 230 00:16:00.850 --> 00:16:06.559 talking is just not a thing that I really do around the house, except 231 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:12.600 that I've started listening to your podcast and and just kind of playing around on 232 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.480 the Internet while it kind of plays in the background. But it's interesting enough 233 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:19.110 that it holds my attention and it's not that long. It's not it doesn't 234 00:16:19.110 --> 00:16:22.789 take an hour out of my day, you know. Yeah, that's true, 235 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:25.909 and it even the ones that are super long, like when I'm at 236 00:16:25.909 --> 00:16:29.389 work just doing some fabrication, you know, out in the factory part, 237 00:16:29.870 --> 00:16:33.659 I will turn on something like Joe Rogan that literally goes for like three hours. 238 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:37.019 But you just find that you pay attention when you do, when you 239 00:16:37.179 --> 00:16:40.299 don't pay attention, when you're not paying attention. Yeah, that's okay. 240 00:16:40.419 --> 00:16:47.690 So can I think an idea of connecting people in a space like podcast is 241 00:16:47.809 --> 00:16:53.610 something that you sort of listen to but you're not really interacting with, whereas 242 00:16:53.649 --> 00:17:00.169 a group online or a group in person you're interacting with them or you can 243 00:17:00.330 --> 00:17:03.600 interact if you feel like it. Yeah, and you can learn idea to 244 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.799 connect those yeah, yeah, and you can lark. I think that's important 245 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.839 and they are that kind of I guess that's why podcasts are cool in a 246 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.279 way, because you're in a way, you're like a Voyeur, you're listening 247 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:17.150 in on other others conversations. Sure, but so that anyway, back to 248 00:17:17.190 --> 00:17:21.750 the the group thing. Is I wanted, like currently I'm trying this thing 249 00:17:21.829 --> 00:17:26.069 called the mighty networks, mighty networks, and it's an APP. I saw 250 00:17:26.069 --> 00:17:30.180 ads scrolling by one day on facebook and said, hey, you like networks, 251 00:17:30.180 --> 00:17:34.660 you should try this, and I put the bipolar junglecom domain named porting, 252 00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:37.819 pointing to that right now, but it just seems slow and clunky. 253 00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:40.980 So now I'm at the point where like, well, Shit, should we 254 00:17:41.059 --> 00:17:47.089 just point the bipolar jungle kind of community group domain named back to a facebook 255 00:17:47.170 --> 00:17:51.329 group? Yeah, I guess I hate facebook and I hate that we have 256 00:17:51.450 --> 00:17:53.730 to be there. I prefer twitter because it's fast and immediate and more like 257 00:17:53.769 --> 00:17:59.240 chat, like I appreciate. Well, and here's an argument for having an 258 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:04.200 on something that's not facebook, because facebook forces you to use your real name 259 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.599 and profile. Oh, I wonder if they're going to kick me off because 260 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.839 I just change mind, the John Emotions all together and change my pics, 261 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.150 my face up to that Emojo care unless somebody, you reports it. Okay, 262 00:18:17.190 --> 00:18:22.150 but the so it means that in a group you're not really anonymous. 263 00:18:22.430 --> 00:18:26.819 That's true. That is true. So you just saying a better a different 264 00:18:26.859 --> 00:18:30.420 platform would be better, just on the anonymity part alone. Right, like, 265 00:18:30.500 --> 00:18:33.140 because I've like slack is cool, you can. Okay, here's the 266 00:18:33.180 --> 00:18:37.180 other problem that I've noticed. Is Huge in the facebook, quote unquote support 267 00:18:37.220 --> 00:18:41.930 groups, and that they get tens of thousands of people, Twentyzero. Yeah, 268 00:18:42.009 --> 00:18:45.369 you can't even keep on. That's good, effective and I think like 269 00:18:45.809 --> 00:18:48.250 slack is a good way. I think we can create channels like by region, 270 00:18:48.329 --> 00:18:51.529 like okay, there's too many people here now, that's going to be 271 00:18:51.730 --> 00:18:55.839 New York, that's going to be California, that's going to be midwester whatever, 272 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.400 and I think you can do that and keep people organize that way. 273 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.920 But that whole idea about black to techy for did. That's the thing. 274 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.640 It's America and then it's yet another APP people have to have on their damn 275 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.109 phone and have to learn right, right. Just us, it comes easy 276 00:19:11.150 --> 00:19:15.269 because we learned it and we were well yet because we had to work and 277 00:19:15.390 --> 00:19:18.109 we were paid to learn it because it was at work right, and now 278 00:19:18.190 --> 00:19:23.660 we like it so so, but I guess not like generally, more APPs, 279 00:19:23.900 --> 00:19:29.460 fault, more downloads, yeah, more things to log into. So 280 00:19:29.619 --> 00:19:32.859 I guess kind of leads back to facebook. But I'm just like, how 281 00:19:32.900 --> 00:19:38.250 do I keep a facebook group flexible and in a way that you can splinter 282 00:19:38.369 --> 00:19:41.930 it off after two hundred people or so, you know, after that? 283 00:19:42.289 --> 00:19:47.089 I don't know if you can do that. I do know that the best 284 00:19:47.289 --> 00:19:52.450 facebook groups that I'm in that have anything to do with health or support or 285 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:59.000 that kind of thing are all secret groups and you have to have an invitation 286 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:06.000 from somebody in the group to be a member. But you could have people 287 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:11.630 that go to bipolar jungle or wherever you're having it pointed yeah, point to 288 00:20:11.710 --> 00:20:15.630 the secret group because you can't find it otherwise. HMM. So, but 289 00:20:15.750 --> 00:20:21.460 that would defense. That would defeat the purpose of the due bipolar junglecom domain 290 00:20:21.579 --> 00:20:23.700 them because if people type that in and actually went to the secret group, 291 00:20:23.700 --> 00:20:26.380 would be like, I can't find mine. Where is it? Right? 292 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:32.099 And now we're back to you don't get to have an alienist. What about 293 00:20:32.339 --> 00:20:36.369 Yammer? Have you ever used the amber before? You've told me about it, 294 00:20:36.369 --> 00:20:37.569 but I haven't used it. I like it. It looks and feels 295 00:20:37.609 --> 00:20:41.930 a lot like facebook. Again, it's another website. But, because that's 296 00:20:41.930 --> 00:20:47.250 also the upside, it's another website, you can actually download your your like 297 00:20:47.369 --> 00:20:49.559 emailers lists and keep it so if it ever goes out of business, you 298 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:53.720 can still get in touch with your people. That's a great idea. Yeah, 299 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:59.720 so, but man, but again, facebook is like a giant. 300 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:03.440 Yeah, facebook's like a giant tractor beam that keeps people sucked into it. 301 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.430 It does it wants to keep you part of that's why we're getting all our 302 00:21:07.470 --> 00:21:11.589 news things on facebook now, and fake news too. Well, and fake 303 00:21:11.670 --> 00:21:17.190 news too, but I mean you Shud can subscribe to follow like BBC, 304 00:21:17.589 --> 00:21:21.779 and yeah, that's True News, right, right, the real ones. 305 00:21:22.500 --> 00:21:23.700 But yeah, so, in fact, I think a lot of people, 306 00:21:23.900 --> 00:21:29.460 especially older folks, just between like Huffington Post and facebook. They think that 307 00:21:29.740 --> 00:21:33.009 is the web and that's the whole entire Internet right there. So, I 308 00:21:33.089 --> 00:21:36.490 mean I know people that are still on AOL. So you saw their sutting 309 00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:40.529 down Messenger. After yeah, twenty years, are finally killing AOL Messenger. 310 00:21:40.730 --> 00:21:45.369 Yeah, that's so a bazy. What's crazy, as I still I hadn't 311 00:21:45.369 --> 00:21:51.759 used it in probably fifteen years. But yeah, I my login probably was 312 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:56.359 still good up until then until they shut it down. Man, I missed 313 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.000 those days. Things were simple and that's really what slack is. AOL Instant 314 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.630 Messenger. It's just an instant messenger. Again, it's just another instant messenger. 315 00:22:04.829 --> 00:22:10.710 So that's a format that's super different from posting something and then discussing it. 316 00:22:11.589 --> 00:22:15.859 Right. I like the secret group idea. People like exclusivity and being 317 00:22:15.940 --> 00:22:18.740 and things that are protected. But you're right about the real name policy. 318 00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:22.740 I think it would be more open to talk about it, put a pole 319 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:29.500 or a series of polls on maybe twitter. Twitter. Yeah, because that's 320 00:22:29.579 --> 00:22:33.250 organically grown pretty quick. I've been only humping that for like three weeks and 321 00:22:33.490 --> 00:22:37.890 there's like three hundred ish like real followers, like normal people that are not 322 00:22:38.049 --> 00:22:44.680 spami. They're not you know Social Media Marketing Guru's telling me how to get 323 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.039 tips. Yeah, it's they're actually like legitimate real people, but it's amazing. 324 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.720 Yeah, yeah, I'm like now I find myself obsessed with followers and 325 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.160 downloads, but it's really neat. The downloads for the show keep going up 326 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:03.190 like fifty percent each week in new podcast there's that many more pot downloads from 327 00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:06.269 the previous week. That's so cool. I know it's like it's working. 328 00:23:06.470 --> 00:23:12.380 What crazy. And the merge. Okay, I put a happy face on 329 00:23:12.460 --> 00:23:17.059 the merch because I know I got the other one. How's it look? 330 00:23:17.259 --> 00:23:19.099 It's cool, it's gorgeous. Yeah, you got to take a picture and 331 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:22.819 post an option. Okay, yeah, I will. I got that. 332 00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:26.380 And I have another one where there's a human in an elevator box and there's 333 00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:27.769 like an Arrow going up and are going down, so it's like, you 334 00:23:27.849 --> 00:23:30.369 know, the ups and down. Me, I'm trying to think of all 335 00:23:30.410 --> 00:23:34.690 kinds of like ideas that rod got to get. Emo Joe. Yeah, 336 00:23:34.730 --> 00:23:37.250 I'll send you one because now I have it, I haven't set up. 337 00:23:37.289 --> 00:23:42.680 Basically, I'm looking at the leaderboard on my my back end there so I 338 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.839 can tell who's being the most. I'm trying to gain on it. Can 339 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.400 you tell that I'm trying? I haven't looked today. I know that bipolar 340 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.519 connect is kicking ass this month and it rush is out at the end of 341 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.950 every month so everyone has a new chance to get up to the top of 342 00:23:56.990 --> 00:23:59.190 the list. But yeah, if you want one. Plus, I'm thinking 343 00:23:59.230 --> 00:24:03.269 of bribing people for helping me like manage the facebook group with t shirts. 344 00:24:03.309 --> 00:24:06.109 Yeah, because I think that's a bitter idea. It's some more effective way 345 00:24:06.630 --> 00:24:11.259 to both build the brand and I think all the like quote unquote bipolar style 346 00:24:11.460 --> 00:24:15.140 t shirts. I don't think they're going to say bipolar style anywhere on them. 347 00:24:15.180 --> 00:24:18.460 I think just the artwork itself will represent things that are bipolar and nature 348 00:24:18.539 --> 00:24:22.259 somebody as yeah, yeah, just to stir a conversation. Or if you're 349 00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:27.650 recognize that logo somewhere else, you'll know like there's someone who knows. Yeah, 350 00:24:27.849 --> 00:24:30.890 totally, I like that idea. Yeah, so cool. Okay, 351 00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:33.690 so things are coming together. I just want to keep on the mics because 352 00:24:33.690 --> 00:24:37.289 I like I try to do three podcasts a week and this one sounds great. 353 00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:41.720 It sounds like a real podcast and the voice sound nervous. Yeah, 354 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.359 I know what don't sound like on a microphone. I Hate I don't know 355 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.759 what I found like to other people. I only know what I sound like 356 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.559 to me. Yeah, I know you sound great it, but and like 357 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:53.349 even to me it's on my own voice when I have to go back and 358 00:24:53.430 --> 00:24:57.029 edit this just even, you know, quantify the audio or make sure it's 359 00:24:57.069 --> 00:25:00.630 not too loud or whatever. I have to listen to my own voice and 360 00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:04.390 like Oh, I got it. Sound like such a Magoo fucking door. 361 00:25:04.710 --> 00:25:07.819 Just shut that guy up. Why is he even talking? Know, you 362 00:25:07.940 --> 00:25:11.619 sound fine, you sound funny, sound normal, normal, exactly. Okay, 363 00:25:11.660 --> 00:25:15.059 that's all I can hope that's my thing with this particular show, because 364 00:25:15.059 --> 00:25:19.819 I've listened to other podcast and there's there's still too sterile for me. They're 365 00:25:19.859 --> 00:25:25.410 little too clinical and they're little too safe. Like I'm thinking of all the 366 00:25:25.450 --> 00:25:27.609 bipolar people I know and I'm like, none of them are that way. 367 00:25:27.609 --> 00:25:32.450 They're all like rock and rolled, dangerous, fucking crazy kind of people, 368 00:25:32.529 --> 00:25:36.319 in a good way. Crazy, not not stigmatizinger. Right, right. 369 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.519 So we need a we need a podcast for bipolar people like that. So 370 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.720 this will be this will be that. Fiona, yeah, get you got 371 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.160 to get over to twitter now and make like feed, I gotta hurt him. 372 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.029 You own a star shine or make a crazy last name? Yeah, 373 00:25:52.109 --> 00:25:55.950 totally, yeah, that would be awesome. So thanks for all your help 374 00:25:56.069 --> 00:26:03.430 and you're so welcome. Send my almost said thoughts and prayers. Say, 375 00:26:03.710 --> 00:26:06.619 that's okay. You can send thoughts and okay, send my thoughts and prayers 376 00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:12.140 to all your family and the people I know and Louisiana, particularly New Orleans. 377 00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:18.730 It's coming up hurricane nate this weekend. Now it's pretty rough. I 378 00:26:18.769 --> 00:26:22.250 don't you know. I'm sure for the housing season to be over. Geez, 379 00:26:22.329 --> 00:26:25.890 right, this whole yeah, but this is the calm before the storm. 380 00:26:25.890 --> 00:26:30.970 Yeah, Oh God, wow, had to get in my trunk reference. 381 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.359 Oh boy, I don't know what to say about that. I feel 382 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.920 like I'm talking about another really feels like we're in an alternate universe. And 383 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.559 the great thing about having PTSD even and times. But this is this would 384 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.869 look like in times if, yeah, if you were actually to like have 385 00:26:49.029 --> 00:26:52.990 a movie, this is this is all the stuff that was in that Zeitgeis 386 00:26:52.069 --> 00:26:56.750 movie a few years ago, hurricanes and riots and crazy presidents and wars and 387 00:26:56.869 --> 00:27:00.619 like. Yep, that's Today. But we're going to go watch Henry Rawlins 388 00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:04.460 over at the hardly strictly blue grass. That's pretty awesome that. I think. 389 00:27:04.460 --> 00:27:07.859 I'm going to watch blade runner. Oh yeah, and the new blade 390 00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:08.740 runners out. You guys got to go watch them. Sure, it stand 391 00:27:08.740 --> 00:27:12.700 at the Robinson. Well, we you going to catch up first one? 392 00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:15.329 Yeah, catch up on still last night. I'm going to watch it today. 393 00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:18.690 Get the story, get the story set in your head, because the 394 00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:22.250 like. Like your cousin Ray said, the next one is not a Prequel, 395 00:27:22.369 --> 00:27:25.730 it's a fucking spirituel. It's actually just a sequel. Happens after, 396 00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:29.369 but it looks totally awesome. I can't wait to see that. Huge Science 397 00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:33.400 Fiction Fan. So that's great. I'm going to probably drop in the trailer 398 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:38.920 music somewhere right about now. Let it start to fade up and yeah, 399 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.319 no, seriously, let me know how the family's going and I'm sure they're 400 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.390 on they're on higher ground. They're in a good part of town, so 401 00:27:45.789 --> 00:27:48.470 they should be all right. I don't know being able to get back home 402 00:27:48.549 --> 00:27:52.309 after you if the pumps don't work. They're good at figure and stuff like 403 00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:56.869 that out heck, yeah, that's why they're there. Yeah, all right, 404 00:27:56.950 --> 00:28:00.740 tell Mama said hi and pet the cats for me. I will all 405 00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:03.339 right. Thank you for hand out, Fiona. You're welcome. All right. 406 00:28:03.539 --> 00:28:11.299 By if you'd liked what you heard, subscribe on Apple Podcast by Itunes 407 00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:15.609 and join us at by color stylecom. Thanks for listening,