Reality Check for Artists Entering New Places

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:06.360 Welcome back to live from EMO Dojo. I'm John and here's the theme song. 2 00:00:13.310 --> 00:00:16.910 So, as you noticed, I took the ads off. It was 3 00:00:17.030 --> 00:00:25.100 ridiculous, you know it was. I think I explain last time. Sounder 4 00:00:25.300 --> 00:00:30.980 FM, my hosting company, implemented this new thing where your podcast was now 5 00:00:31.100 --> 00:00:36.490 going to be monetized by default unless you turned it off. It was easier 6 00:00:36.530 --> 00:00:40.009 to connect the stripe accounts, the bank account than it was to turn off 7 00:00:41.090 --> 00:00:46.250 the monetization at first. And then I listened to it and I'm like that's 8 00:00:46.570 --> 00:00:51.719 horrible, because all these big corporate companies and the like. Well, maybe 9 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:55.399 it'll pay for something. But then I looked at how many ads were listened 10 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:00.320 to. Hundreds of people were interrupted, their day was wasted at some point 11 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.390 by an ad, and it equaled like forty two cents. I'm like, 12 00:01:03.510 --> 00:01:10.909 that's stupid, that's embarrassing and sounders should be ashamed of themselves. Artists make 13 00:01:11.069 --> 00:01:15.030 lots of money now, and Podcasters, I think, our artist. So 14 00:01:15.390 --> 00:01:23.060 interrupting people for forty two cents, to interrupt hundreds of people's listening, that's 15 00:01:23.060 --> 00:01:27.340 a ridiculous so just turn them off. You probably. I think they come 16 00:01:27.379 --> 00:01:32.340 off automatically. So they're no longer on any of the episodes either, which 17 00:01:32.379 --> 00:01:34.930 is awesome. Not Going to do the ADS, although if you want me 18 00:01:34.969 --> 00:01:38.810 to promote something, fuck I'm happy to promote whatever you're working on. You 19 00:01:38.930 --> 00:01:42.730 can even send me an ad. I'll read your ad because you're like you 20 00:01:42.849 --> 00:01:45.849 know where, you're a human and if you reach out I'll do this. 21 00:01:46.049 --> 00:01:49.640 But now the corporate thing, just playing random ads based on where you live 22 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:56.400 or whatever fucking data they gathered on you. Kind of thing you don't want 23 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:01.469 to play. So I've got another cool artist coming up on this weekend. 24 00:02:01.989 --> 00:02:07.109 Marcy is a appears to be a painter. Not sure if it's digital. 25 00:02:07.189 --> 00:02:10.509 I'm almost certain it's real life painting. Probably looks like watercolor to me. 26 00:02:12.550 --> 00:02:15.699 We'll get more information, obviously, from Marcy when we talk. That'll be 27 00:02:15.819 --> 00:02:22.780 great. And then I've got another fella name. I think his name is 28 00:02:22.819 --> 00:02:25.780 Doug. I'll check. I'll let you know next week for sure. And 29 00:02:27.300 --> 00:02:31.930 he's a photographer out of Georgia that takes some Rad photos. So I know 30 00:02:32.530 --> 00:02:38.530 talking about art is one thing, but we are talking. We're not having 31 00:02:38.530 --> 00:02:42.969 a video conference so that when I talk to these artists we will have the 32 00:02:43.009 --> 00:02:47.120 best kind of audio conversation possible and I'll get them to describe their art in 33 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:52.879 meaningful ways so that you, a listener, can going to get what they're 34 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:59.870 trying to convey with their visual art. Cool, cool, I think. 35 00:02:59.870 --> 00:03:05.389 If you've heard on previous episodes a talk about this thing called Neophilia, there's 36 00:03:05.430 --> 00:03:12.150 a neophilia and Neophobia, neo obviously meaning new, phobia meaning fear, and 37 00:03:12.310 --> 00:03:16.300 Philia meaning love. Right. So if you have neophilia, you have love 38 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:21.539 of the new. If you have neo phobia, and means you don't like 39 00:03:21.699 --> 00:03:25.180 new Shit, you won't like the stick to tradition. Well, I have 40 00:03:25.419 --> 00:03:32.490 neophilia pretty bad and that just means I'm always on the quest for new things. 41 00:03:32.569 --> 00:03:37.409 So that's kind of what led me to the NFTE, the hype that's 42 00:03:37.409 --> 00:03:40.210 happening right now. I'm sure you're sick of hearing from it if you're not 43 00:03:40.409 --> 00:03:45.520 into it, but I'll just explain how and why I got to that point 44 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.439 and the kind of the pit palls of some of the things, and also 45 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:57.389 just a reality check on success. Right. So nfts as a thing had 46 00:03:57.430 --> 00:03:59.870 been around for a couple of years. There just was no use for them 47 00:03:59.909 --> 00:04:04.270 unless you had like cryptocurrency and that just wasn't into cryptocurrency in a large part 48 00:04:04.310 --> 00:04:08.229 because I didn't have any money to buy into it when it was affordable. 49 00:04:08.590 --> 00:04:11.780 So I just wasn't on my radar, and I think a lot of you 50 00:04:11.979 --> 00:04:15.539 are probably the same way and maybe still don't have anything to do with it. 51 00:04:15.540 --> 00:04:19.779 Well, what a change was that some market places, will call them, 52 00:04:20.060 --> 00:04:24.610 that's what they call themselves, opened up, and basically a market place 53 00:04:24.730 --> 00:04:27.490 is like a website, like, if you're familiar with the old website like 54 00:04:27.610 --> 00:04:30.529 deviance art, something like that, where artists can just go put up their 55 00:04:30.569 --> 00:04:35.009 pictures or whatnot and try to sell them. Well, a big one called 56 00:04:35.050 --> 00:04:40.879 open sea came about and let everybody now, in a more organized way, 57 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:46.120 sell their nft's, and then the crypto people had something to do with their 58 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:53.550 crypto because even though cryptocurrency is highly valuable, it's the way of the future, 59 00:04:54.029 --> 00:04:56.709 all that sort of thing. But if the rest of the world isn't 60 00:04:56.709 --> 00:05:00.550 caught up and not that many places accepted as currency, what are you going 61 00:05:00.589 --> 00:05:04.310 to do while you're waiting for it to increase in value? Hey, buy 62 00:05:04.389 --> 00:05:08.699 some art. That's what the old school people with money sitting around did so 63 00:05:08.899 --> 00:05:13.540 why not use some of your new school money that's just sitting around to invest 64 00:05:13.540 --> 00:05:16.899 in some art to try to increase the value of your money while it waits 65 00:05:17.339 --> 00:05:21.250 for it to naturally increase on its own? But then think about this, 66 00:05:23.329 --> 00:05:26.170 the people that did crypto and all that. So let's call it like the 67 00:05:26.730 --> 00:05:30.209 generation x, not boomers, but x people after that, right up to 68 00:05:30.329 --> 00:05:40.600 millennials. They grew up with games, Atari Nintendo, playstation xpots, et 69 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.399 Cetera, and now all the online gaming. But that all started back, 70 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.800 like generation x, when they were kids, when we were kids, and 71 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:53.870 so they're used to the idea of things being a game. So with the 72 00:05:53.990 --> 00:05:59.509 nft rage, that's happening now. What's really happening in many of the test 73 00:05:59.589 --> 00:06:03.149 use cases are these profile pick projects. He's what I call PP project. 74 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:09.819 They they try. They call themselves PFP projects, but there's no fucking F 75 00:06:10.060 --> 00:06:14.620 word in profile pick, so they're pep. You're working out a PP project 76 00:06:15.420 --> 00:06:21.490 anyway. The whole purpose of them as gamified the purchase and collection, curation 77 00:06:23.290 --> 00:06:30.170 and anticipation of art. So that art is largely generated by computers and it 78 00:06:30.290 --> 00:06:32.800 doesn't have a lot of merit by traditional art standards. But that doesn't matter 79 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:40.839 because they're just using it as the faces of things to trade, like trading 80 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.439 cards or pokemon cards, and not to be little the trading of any of 81 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:48.870 those things, especially trading profile picks, but that's kind of what they're doing. 82 00:06:48.949 --> 00:06:53.470 They're you know, they're signing value to a thing that you know other 83 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:58.430 people don't care about at all, and that's totally fine. So, as 84 00:06:58.550 --> 00:07:01.259 an artist, you have to know this going in, because you are not 85 00:07:01.379 --> 00:07:11.019 a development team creating code and tenzero different profile picks and trying to figure out 86 00:07:11.139 --> 00:07:16.610 some quote unquote, utility for your artwork beyond art. Now, any artists 87 00:07:16.610 --> 00:07:21.769 will tell you that art is utility onto itself. The enjoyment that is the 88 00:07:21.810 --> 00:07:26.209 utility. If you're trying to do anything else with it, good for you, 89 00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:30.800 but then you're expanding beyond the meeting of art. Really you're moving from 90 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.839 art to utility. I think that's the kind of the beauty of art. 91 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.759 It doesn't need utility. In fact, when you add utility to art, 92 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:41.879 doesn't make it Uber Art or more art or extreme art, it just it's 93 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:46.149 still art by itself. In the utility can always be removed. Art Is 94 00:07:46.269 --> 00:07:51.189 Art. It needs no utility. So when you see profile pics and things 95 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:58.069 like terms like Dev teams and utility and, quote unquote community, what they're 96 00:07:58.069 --> 00:08:07.060 all talking about is investors into their gamified investment scheme based on graphics. And 97 00:08:07.220 --> 00:08:11.500 again, that's probably not what you're into. It's not what I'm into. 98 00:08:11.100 --> 00:08:16.689 What I'm into is locking down the rights of anything I create so that in 99 00:08:16.769 --> 00:08:20.970 the future, if it becomes valuable, me or my offspring will get some 100 00:08:20.050 --> 00:08:24.970 of that value. That's pretty simple. But as an artist I have to 101 00:08:26.089 --> 00:08:28.720 realize like, okay, take music, for example. You can take youtube 102 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.799 or music. There's an article that came out a couple of years ago that 103 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:39.960 was pretty telling and it mentioned how spotify at the time had two million songs 104 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:46.789 on its platform that had never been played at all. That means even the 105 00:08:46.909 --> 00:08:50.710 person that uploaded it, or the band that created the music, the artist 106 00:08:50.750 --> 00:08:58.259 that made the music, didn't even listen to it themselves. This leads to 107 00:08:58.379 --> 00:09:03.379 the nft thing. If you got artists out there scribbling out a piece the 108 00:09:03.419 --> 00:09:05.500 day you know it's junk, it's garbage, it's chaos. Of course you 109 00:09:05.580 --> 00:09:09.500 can call it are you can call a fucking pile of shit. Art literally 110 00:09:09.500 --> 00:09:13.490 a pile of Shit. You can call it art, but you know, 111 00:09:13.610 --> 00:09:16.529 what's the true value of people? Just if you're able to scribble something out 112 00:09:16.529 --> 00:09:20.169 without thought, day after day after day after day, what is the value 113 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:22.649 in that? Is it valuable at all? I don't know. And if 114 00:09:22.769 --> 00:09:26.480 you know a million other people around the world are doing exactly the same thing, 115 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.320 hmmm, is there now? Where's the value? Now you have to 116 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.759 compete. Are you even clicking or liking your own stuff? Are you sharing 117 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:41.789 your own stuff? Back to the spotify example, if you're not listening to 118 00:09:41.870 --> 00:09:45.029 Your Own Music that you upload or if you're not even you know, would 119 00:09:45.029 --> 00:09:48.909 you even hang your own art on your own wall, then? What are 120 00:09:48.909 --> 00:09:52.620 you doing there? You just like scribbling with crayons all day long. Sometimes 121 00:09:52.700 --> 00:09:56.779 I see art and pretty much looks like that. But you know, I'm 122 00:09:56.779 --> 00:10:00.259 entitled to my opinion and that's what I think about some of the Shit I 123 00:10:00.340 --> 00:10:07.100 see on the Internet, especially on twitter. Regarding NFTS. But if there's 124 00:10:07.409 --> 00:10:13.210 two million unplayed songs plus on spotify, imagine how many unseen pieces of art 125 00:10:13.289 --> 00:10:18.250 there are on open see like nft art. There's tons that people have never 126 00:10:18.289 --> 00:10:24.039 even seen. So it's not going to be easy to generate the kind of 127 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:28.799 money you see people making in the quote unquote nft world right now. What 128 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.919 it is? It's people with development teams that are already keyed into the crypto 129 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.789 crowd to the people with the money could because they work together at previous jobs 130 00:10:37.870 --> 00:10:41.389 and things like that and just know each other from the space, as they 131 00:10:41.429 --> 00:10:46.269 call it. And there are a few individual artists that make one of one 132 00:10:46.389 --> 00:10:50.259 pieces, you know, individual pieces of art, like traditional artist, but 133 00:10:50.379 --> 00:10:52.899 in the digital realm. But these guys who are making the big money, 134 00:10:52.940 --> 00:10:58.820 they're they've been doing it for twenty years, so they're not new to digital 135 00:10:58.860 --> 00:11:01.940 art. They can make things that you and I cannot make. They are 136 00:11:03.779 --> 00:11:09.610 legendary in that respect. So does that mean we should not try NFTS? 137 00:11:09.929 --> 00:11:13.129 No, fuck no, get involved now, get into it. So one 138 00:11:13.169 --> 00:11:18.240 of the cooler things that I found about it is that to get an nft 139 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.679 account you have to at least buy a little bit of Crypto, Fifty Bugs, 140 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.600 hundred bucks whatever, put it on a wallet and learn all the steps. 141 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.200 That's the cool thing. So I learned how to do crypto and now 142 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:35.549 I have some and regardless of if my nft's ever sell, I don't know 143 00:11:35.710 --> 00:11:39.269 I don't care, but I'm going to keep putting them up there and promoting 144 00:11:39.309 --> 00:11:41.870 them because it's a fun hobby. But if, if they never sell, 145 00:11:43.269 --> 00:11:46.629 I'm going to just let that crypto sit in there until it goes up and 146 00:11:46.710 --> 00:11:48.139 up and up and up and up, and then, you know, if 147 00:11:48.139 --> 00:11:50.259 I need it, ten or fifteen years from now, and I would try 148 00:11:50.299 --> 00:11:54.899 to retire cool, I'll have some crypto I could turn to cash or if 149 00:11:54.899 --> 00:11:58.820 you even need to turn it to cash at that point, do you feel 150 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:03.289 me? So there's no bad in learning new things, investing in Crypto for 151 00:12:03.330 --> 00:12:05.370 a little bit, you know, if you got a few extra bucks, 152 00:12:05.610 --> 00:12:07.850 and I hear you. If you don't have any extra bucks, I know 153 00:12:07.929 --> 00:12:11.210 I've been there and I don't plan on going back, and this is one 154 00:12:11.250 --> 00:12:16.279 of the ways how I plan to stay out of that, you know, 155 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.080 poverty. I guess, is to you know, invest in your trust, 156 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.120 in yourself when you can and try to keep pushing it forward. But then, 157 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.919 of course, in Crypto you also have to beware of the hype boys, 158 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.029 the salesman and things like that. Effectively like the Tony Robbins of the 159 00:12:31.110 --> 00:12:37.629 world, the Gary v's of the world. These people are manipulating people's emotions, 160 00:12:39.269 --> 00:12:43.470 the taking psychological techniques that we science have known for a while, but 161 00:12:43.629 --> 00:12:48.100 just marketing and advertising. People have code of ethics and have not used them 162 00:12:48.740 --> 00:12:54.340 to hypnotize and brainwash people into multilevel marketing schemes. But there's new people that 163 00:12:54.460 --> 00:13:00.210 do this and they're out there cult of personality. By my thing, you'll 164 00:13:00.210 --> 00:13:01.970 be important as long as you keep buying into my thing. And, by 165 00:13:03.009 --> 00:13:07.049 the way, I'm keeping all the intellectual property. So you know, that's 166 00:13:07.210 --> 00:13:13.679 that's why use quote unquote quote marks around community when they all preach community, 167 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:18.799 because it's really only it's fan club Shit. It's multilevel marketing, crowd like. 168 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.000 As long as you're paying to be in the crowd and display it and 169 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.919 promote it and maintain the hype and the positivity, then you're in. There's 170 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.669 no room for individuality, which is kind of the keystone of a great artist. 171 00:13:33.590 --> 00:13:39.909 So I kind of sense, you know, disconnect. Their great art 172 00:13:39.950 --> 00:13:45.220 comes from individual perceptions of their own world. You know, brought forward after 173 00:13:46.019 --> 00:13:52.659 hours and years of trial and error, practice, critique, rints, wash, 174 00:13:52.820 --> 00:13:54.179 repeat over and over and again. You know, twenty, thirty, 175 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:58.850 forty years and now you have, oh a genius cool, and that's the 176 00:13:58.889 --> 00:14:01.090 same way with digital art. The people that are true digital artists have been 177 00:14:01.090 --> 00:14:07.330 doing it for twenty years. The people that are playing money games with you 178 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:13.120 know, playing cards and profile picks, those are development teams and Crypto people. 179 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.440 So where do we fit in? Well, where we've always fit in. 180 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.240 This is just a new way to put your stuff. Frankly, if 181 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:26.429 you've been just posting on instagram or Pinter wrist or something like that, even 182 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:31.750 facebook, still just post some of that up into an accounts that is on 183 00:14:31.830 --> 00:14:35.990 the blockchain so that all your stuff is protected. Hell, if you make 184 00:14:37.149 --> 00:14:39.899 memes, if you just make memes and their original, you can put those 185 00:14:39.980 --> 00:14:43.659 on the blockchain and sell those. They might not be worth much now, 186 00:14:43.779 --> 00:14:48.379 but they might be worth something a lot twenty years from now when people look 187 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.419 back on like, oh, remember the original NFTA memes? It can happen. 188 00:14:52.490 --> 00:14:54.690 The more I think of this, the more I just keep thinking it's 189 00:14:54.730 --> 00:15:01.610 the same that it's always been. There's always hucksters and get rich quick people 190 00:15:01.649 --> 00:15:05.330 out there hyping the thing that they're trying to sell and getting, you know, 191 00:15:05.529 --> 00:15:09.639 you to buy into it, thinking that you'll be them. But they're 192 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.440 an individual. You can't copy somebody else's template your you. You have different 193 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.120 resources. You started at a different time. Things are different now. The 194 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.200 whole thing. You can have the same mindset and you could copy even the 195 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.470 same steps of one of your gurus. It's not going to work out for 196 00:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.110 you. You're not going to make it not that way. You going to 197 00:15:28.230 --> 00:15:30.750 make it by being yourself. And what are you going to make? Oh, 198 00:15:30.950 --> 00:15:33.470 you're going to become more of yourself, which that totally reminds me of 199 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:43.860 some book I was reading, epicurious, something like that, maybe cast I 200 00:15:43.940 --> 00:15:46.940 can't remember, I don't know. It was read about the stoics and doesn't 201 00:15:48.019 --> 00:15:50.450 doesn't really matter which one this particular one was it, because it got right 202 00:15:50.529 --> 00:15:56.529 at me and the stoics were all about virtue, like just be virtuous, 203 00:15:56.850 --> 00:16:00.889 be quiet, keep to yourself, don't stir this shit. But one of 204 00:16:00.929 --> 00:16:03.759 the things was like don't talk so much about yourself, and I'm like fuck, 205 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.639 that's that's all this show is is me talking too much about myself. 206 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:14.200 I thought about that several weeks ago before I started hunting down guests, so 207 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:21.110 I can, you know, share and talk more about them and then you'll 208 00:16:21.149 --> 00:16:25.509 hear another. You know, podcast, how to make better podcast kind of 209 00:16:25.629 --> 00:16:29.230 podcasts or article or something thing, and the whole thing is like no, 210 00:16:29.429 --> 00:16:33.500 be authentic, share about yourself. The Michael Fuck. To Be Successful you 211 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:38.940 have to be not a virtuous person anymore. I'm confused. To talk more 212 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:47.370 about myself, less talk with other people. I don't know, mix it 213 00:16:47.409 --> 00:16:49.570 up. The great thing is, though, I can do what I want. 214 00:16:51.450 --> 00:16:56.009 That's awesome. Just change tune in next week see what the fuck John's 215 00:16:56.049 --> 00:16:59.129 going to do. Oh and I am doing something new here. Check this 216 00:16:59.250 --> 00:17:02.759 out. All right. So update on the voice acting thing? Yep, 217 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.279 I'm still doing that. Like I said, I think the last day updated. 218 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:11.759 You have phone numbers of local talent agents who book voice actors for local 219 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.269 commercials and corporate things. So I'm working towards that. It's a little slow 220 00:17:15.269 --> 00:17:18.109 now, so I'm going to kind of put that on the burner through the 221 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:22.829 holidays here and pick it up in January. And the nonprofit thing, now 222 00:17:22.869 --> 00:17:27.150 here's an issue. I love the drums, the drum idea emo Dojo's great 223 00:17:27.230 --> 00:17:33.740 for that. Or do I do? I don't want to have time for 224 00:17:33.859 --> 00:17:37.339 to and I really want to play my drums and help others play drums and, 225 00:17:37.940 --> 00:17:42.700 you know, get the both the physical exercise and the mental therapy, 226 00:17:42.819 --> 00:17:47.730 for lack of a better word. I love that. But the other thing 227 00:17:47.769 --> 00:17:53.569 I think is important now as well are the poor people, trying to get 228 00:17:53.609 --> 00:17:57.839 them into NFT's when they don't have even a regular bank accounts. Well, 229 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.279 I'm going to do a photo project right take street photos, which means photos 230 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.240 of people when they don't know their pictures being taken. They're out in public 231 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.400 and stuff, so it's okay to take their picture. You have no reasonable 232 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.910 right to privacy and public that's why there's surveillance cameras everywhere out there. The 233 00:18:17.029 --> 00:18:22.910 twist is I am going to let them know I did take their picture and 234 00:18:22.990 --> 00:18:26.309 let them know where it's going to be on my gallery and if they want 235 00:18:26.349 --> 00:18:30.019 a part of it, to hit me up in a little while and I'll 236 00:18:30.099 --> 00:18:34.259 put their picture up as an NFT, like a high end art and fte 237 00:18:34.420 --> 00:18:38.619 that you not high end photography like you'd see in a gallery, but of 238 00:18:38.819 --> 00:18:48.690 Gritty Street photography featuring individual people, and those people then have an opportunity to 239 00:18:48.849 --> 00:18:53.849 continually make royalties as the nft of their's cells. So in a weird way, 240 00:18:53.930 --> 00:18:57.839 it's kind of like those TV commercials where you could adopt a starving child 241 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:03.480 in a foreign country or adopt a broken animal and America. Well, this 242 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:08.720 would be like adopting poor person or anybody. Really doesn't even have to be 243 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.069 a poor person. It could be a rich person that happened to take a 244 00:19:11.109 --> 00:19:15.789 picture of. The point is I want to be able to let anybody there 245 00:19:15.789 --> 00:19:21.069 to take a photo of in public profit from their photo alongside me, as 246 00:19:21.190 --> 00:19:26.500 the photo sits on the Internet as an NFTE forevermore. And the whole purpose 247 00:19:26.660 --> 00:19:30.180 of doing that would be so that they would have to if they want to 248 00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:33.019 get paid, would be to get, you know, Coin Base App, 249 00:19:33.180 --> 00:19:38.009 get a phone, get a bank accounts and then hook it up to a 250 00:19:38.130 --> 00:19:41.609 mask, I mean not to Meta masks, you like a different like a 251 00:19:41.650 --> 00:19:48.769 ledger or something, and except the royalties. So basically I'm going to have 252 00:19:48.890 --> 00:19:51.289 to come up with probably, I don't know, hundred bucks or so. 253 00:19:51.329 --> 00:19:53.359 I got to get in a bank account. Got To get the poor person 254 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.079 a ledger, maybe not a hardware wallet, preferably. I'd like to teach 255 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:03.240 them right from the beginning. Anyway. There's a lot of other logistics involved, 256 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.599 like what if they lose their ledger. Yeah, there's a lot of 257 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:11.109 that going on. I mean, I don't know, but my intent is 258 00:20:11.029 --> 00:20:15.349 in the right place, so I think I can make it work. It 259 00:20:15.509 --> 00:20:18.589 is provocative, though. Could you know? People just say you can't take 260 00:20:18.630 --> 00:20:21.700 pictures of people like that? Well, for one, yes, I fucking 261 00:20:21.779 --> 00:20:25.140 can, because I'm just as a title to be outdoors as anybody else's and 262 00:20:25.619 --> 00:20:27.579 if I don't want my picture taken, I can go away. That's not 263 00:20:27.740 --> 00:20:30.779 the point. The point is I go to some places where people are in 264 00:20:30.859 --> 00:20:34.460 some pretty fucked up spots, just, you know, looking dead on the 265 00:20:34.539 --> 00:20:40.450 sidewalk and stuff. They don't need help, you know, but whatever doesn't 266 00:20:40.529 --> 00:20:45.529 bother me. I see it as an outsider looking in on humanity, as 267 00:20:45.609 --> 00:20:49.759 if a person from like another planet, alien from another planet, came down 268 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:55.720 and just was on a tour of earth, much the same way we would 269 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:00.319 be on the two were of a zoo. So that is called humans, 270 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:11.670 spelled H Oom l out you, Ama and S. it's a Humanscom and 271 00:21:11.269 --> 00:21:18.509 that could be a nonprofit as well, humans dot Org, and I get 272 00:21:18.619 --> 00:21:22.339 on board people, onto the metaverse. I don't know. I'm into your 273 00:21:22.619 --> 00:21:26.019 input because you're going to have to go on this journey with me, I'm 274 00:21:26.019 --> 00:21:29.460 not going to shut up about it or stop podcasting. So, if you 275 00:21:29.539 --> 00:21:36.049 think I should have a nonprofit for humans that on boards poor people into the 276 00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:44.329 metaverse and gets them hooked up with NFT's and cryptocurrency, or emo Doo Joe, 277 00:21:44.569 --> 00:21:48.480 which is a drum therapy clinic where people can come and beat on drums 278 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:56.599 no pressure and get their Yah Yahs out, either one. They both sound 279 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.440 fun to me. Let me know what you think is a cool one. 280 00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:03.750 So yeah, that's all I got for now. I knew I could fucking 281 00:22:03.829 --> 00:22:07.269 talk for like a half an hour without even thinking about it. So there 282 00:22:07.349 --> 00:22:11.109 you have it. Another podcast in the CAN. By John. Oh Yeah, 283 00:22:11.390 --> 00:22:15.349 my name is going to be for this art project, the humans one, 284 00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:18.339 my name is going to be June. It's the Jay Oom l out 285 00:22:18.380 --> 00:22:26.299 OH H N. You could find me at junecom. The magic of all 286 00:22:26.420 --> 00:22:29.779 these weird ooml out names is that, while I can register them, most 287 00:22:29.779 --> 00:22:33.970 people don't know how to type them on their fucking computer. So while I'll 288 00:22:33.009 --> 00:22:37.970 have like Humanscom on the back of my truck or something and people might try 289 00:22:38.009 --> 00:22:41.609 to type it in, but they won't figure it out. If they do 290 00:22:41.730 --> 00:22:44.880 figure it out, they'll actually get to the site. Cool, right. 291 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.599 But yeah, I'm creating yet another character part of the Jay Lily project called 292 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:56.079 June, and look for that. Yeah, I get bored easy. So 293 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.230 anyway, check in next week. I appreciate you. This week I appreciate 294 00:23:00.269 --> 00:23:03.109 you all the time. Thanks for listening and making me feel like I'm not 295 00:23:03.269 --> 00:23:08.390 so alone in the world when I'm physically by myself. And next week I'll 296 00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:11.269 have a guest and the week after that I'll have a guest. So we'll 297 00:23:11.309 --> 00:23:17.500 have a fine artist this week coming up and the week after that a photographer. 298 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:19.099 Awesome. If you want to be on the show and just have a 299 00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:22.940 chat, we can work it out. Whether you want to just call in 300 00:23:22.059 --> 00:23:26.339 on your cell phone, if you got the podcast set up in a mica 301 00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:30.569 or whatever. We'll do the best to make you shine and I love hearing 302 00:23:30.609 --> 00:23:33.009 from you. It doesn't matter how mentally ill you are or what type of 303 00:23:33.089 --> 00:23:37.690 art you do, let's talk about it. Cool, all right, I'm 304 00:23:37.690 --> 00:23:55.519 John and I appreciate you. And now back to the wall.