Nov. 9, 2020

Post-Election Emotions: Sympathy for The Fans, Not The Team

I meant to talk what I'm doing with the new podcast format. But, realizing I'm short on time, I try to explain how we should consider having sympathy for Trump voters.


I meant to talk what I'm doing with the new podcast format. But, realizing I'm short on time, I try to explain how we should consider having sympathy for Trump voters.
Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:09.230 I'm johnny emotions and this is daily emotions. So in this episode I was 2 00:00:09.349 --> 00:00:12.589 going to tell you why I was changing the podcast and how that was going 3 00:00:12.789 --> 00:00:18.390 around, and I ended up rationalizing why we should be kinder to trump supporters. 4 00:00:18.910 --> 00:00:25.859 So yeah, have a listen. Boy, this is going to be 5 00:00:25.899 --> 00:00:30.100 one of those episodes where it's all over the place just because I have so 6 00:00:30.219 --> 00:00:34.820 much to tell you because someone just happened. So I'm going to have to 7 00:00:34.939 --> 00:00:45.250 try to edit myself while I speak. So, of course I've been experimenting 8 00:00:45.329 --> 00:00:51.679 with show names and album artwork lately see how it fits. When I create 9 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:58.719 artwork and show ideas and I usually like design something up and I guess the 10 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.200 old way to put it would be like put it up on the refrigerator and 11 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.709 kind of look at it and walk by it and see it every every day 12 00:01:06.109 --> 00:01:10.750 for a couple of weeks change something. Well, you know, I kind 13 00:01:10.750 --> 00:01:15.670 of do the digital version, the digital version of that, as I just 14 00:01:15.870 --> 00:01:19.700 put stuff up and I look around. But Anyway, I think back in 15 00:01:19.859 --> 00:01:23.780 August, about two years ago, I did a thing called the dog days 16 00:01:23.819 --> 00:01:32.019 of August, where it was like you podcast something every day and looking back 17 00:01:32.019 --> 00:01:34.010 at all the things I've done in podcasting. I think that was one of 18 00:01:34.049 --> 00:01:38.769 the most valuable so I want to keep doing that. So this is going 19 00:01:38.810 --> 00:01:42.049 to be me doing a daily podcast and they're probably going to be really short. 20 00:01:42.890 --> 00:01:48.359 The trick is getting me to focus on one topic. Of the eighty 21 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.640 topics in my head right now, I got to pick one. So this 22 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:57.640 particular show is going to be about this show and emotions and basically the emotions 23 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:05.069 revolving around the election in America. It's been pretty wild, so we were 24 00:02:05.909 --> 00:02:10.150 still in shut down, lockdown mode. My sons and I had gone from 25 00:02:12.030 --> 00:02:19.699 Louisiana up north to Oklahoma, and neither of those states in America are very, 26 00:02:19.699 --> 00:02:28.659 HMM, into wearing masks. Just say it like that. They're individualist, 27 00:02:28.780 --> 00:02:31.530 you know. They're the kind of states that are traditionally conservative, but 28 00:02:31.689 --> 00:02:37.770 that that that label doesn't mean much anymore. I don't know what they're trying 29 00:02:37.810 --> 00:02:45.360 to conserve. Not It's not money. The yeah, and more in Oklahoma 30 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:50.159 instead of a hill billy things down from California, and I just imagined everything 31 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:54.599 kind of east of Colorado, before you hit Chicago, was just people playing 32 00:02:54.680 --> 00:03:00.229 banjos and Straw hats and run around barefoot. And stuff like that. Nah, 33 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:02.349 of course it's not. But you know, when you're not out in 34 00:03:02.509 --> 00:03:06.229 it you don't think about it too much, so you just to sign it 35 00:03:06.349 --> 00:03:10.069 a thought in your head. So I left California, went to Louisiana, 36 00:03:10.710 --> 00:03:16.139 then Oklahoma, and for sure there's different types of southern folks, like the 37 00:03:16.259 --> 00:03:22.900 swamp south people, and then the the more northern people, especially above the 38 00:03:22.979 --> 00:03:27.569 top of Texas. They're like yeah, more like the Marlborough man up here, 39 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:31.490 kind of individual, sitting alone out in the field on a horse kind 40 00:03:31.530 --> 00:03:36.250 of thing. That's what it reminds me of. And Yeah, there's there's 41 00:03:36.289 --> 00:03:42.159 way more stuff than just red dirt and tumbleweeds in Oklahoma. So if you're 42 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:50.439 familiar with California, like for my friends who listen, Oklahoma is like Sacramento, 43 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:55.150 lots of rivers, lakes, mostly flat, same kind of chain stores 44 00:03:55.229 --> 00:04:01.150 and malls and some city and state government buildings and just the dirts red instead 45 00:04:01.189 --> 00:04:05.830 of Brown. But yeah, it's kind of like that. As my point 46 00:04:05.870 --> 00:04:14.259 being, it's really interesting to experience it's the electorate firsthand, because I've been 47 00:04:14.300 --> 00:04:18.860 in California for decades and just it's just a way of life. It's the 48 00:04:18.939 --> 00:04:25.089 way I was programmed. It's what I was surrounded with. So when I 49 00:04:25.170 --> 00:04:30.089 got to Louisiana, that was one vibe. Oklahoma, HMM, completely different 50 00:04:30.089 --> 00:04:34.689 vibe. I kind of I almost I like Oklahoma quite a bit. There's 51 00:04:34.730 --> 00:04:41.519 nothing not to like about it. There are a lot more trumpet type people, 52 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.879 but they're out in the opened and they're I mean they're out in the 53 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:48.680 open. You can see them and you can avoid them if you choose, 54 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.230 or engage them if you choose them. Either way, you know what I 55 00:04:53.269 --> 00:04:56.750 mean, they're just out there. Put it. In California just seem like 56 00:04:58.069 --> 00:05:00.589 people were trying to be more polite, but it end up being fake polite, 57 00:05:01.310 --> 00:05:08.300 so they hid their true intentions and their true feelings, whereas out here 58 00:05:08.459 --> 00:05:13.300 in Oklahoma they don't give a fuck too much. Because I think I can 59 00:05:13.339 --> 00:05:16.379 attribute a little bit of that to guns. Everybody's got guns over here, 60 00:05:17.259 --> 00:05:21.449 so it's not really you never know who's going to nobody's going to pop off 61 00:05:21.529 --> 00:05:27.449 and start pulling a gun out in public, so that the fear of like 62 00:05:27.649 --> 00:05:32.410 mass shootings is almost non existent. Bank robberies, hold up up some car 63 00:05:32.490 --> 00:05:38.040 jackets does don't really happen around here that much. If at all, and 64 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.680 that's fascinating, especially when you're from California and you think everything's like, oh, 65 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.639 guns are no, guns should only be used for certain situations. Well, 66 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.990 when you live in it, you start to see the benefits of like, 67 00:05:53.310 --> 00:05:56.550 well, okay, yeah, I mean you kind of hypothesize it and 68 00:05:56.589 --> 00:06:00.509 you hear about countries like Switzerland where everybody has to keep a gun for the 69 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:04.019 defense of the country, that sort of thing, but it's not like that 70 00:06:04.139 --> 00:06:06.860 here. It's a free for all. You can carry however you want, 71 00:06:09.620 --> 00:06:12.819 conceal it and you can carry it on your hip, you carried into a 72 00:06:12.899 --> 00:06:16.660 store, whatever you want. It's like the wild West Mine Anyway, my 73 00:06:16.779 --> 00:06:23.449 point being, I was trying to experience both the sides, let's call it, 74 00:06:24.449 --> 00:06:27.649 which we'll do an episode on the media alone. How they loved to 75 00:06:28.089 --> 00:06:30.930 pit a fight, and they have too. The easiest way to create a 76 00:06:30.009 --> 00:06:34.480 fight is to create two sides when clearly we live in a spectrum. It's 77 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:41.639 not. There's kind of like social media's become this like binary fucking sewer and 78 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.199 everything has to be either or left or right, your in or out, 79 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:49.069 you're popular or you're canceled. You know, blue, red, black, 80 00:06:49.269 --> 00:06:54.750 White, up down Jesus Christ, but I'm not going to do it on 81 00:06:54.829 --> 00:06:57.949 the media today special cifically. I just wanted to do it on the emotions 82 00:06:58.430 --> 00:07:01.860 of politics, and that kind of a long way around to what I'm working 83 00:07:01.939 --> 00:07:04.180 on here and why I'm doing it daily. So anyway, I'm going to 84 00:07:04.220 --> 00:07:09.379 do a daily podcast because I don't know, I haven't can talk about a 85 00:07:09.420 --> 00:07:15.300 million different things. It's good exercise for me and I have an interesting perspective 86 00:07:15.379 --> 00:07:18.689 just being kind of a stranger in a strange land, a Californian in the 87 00:07:18.730 --> 00:07:24.529 middle of Oklahoma, and enjoying it. So there's that. That said, 88 00:07:25.730 --> 00:07:30.959 man, the election yesterday. I'm the election was obviously back on Tuesday and 89 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:36.600 they finally got to counted enough that they find a got to have counted enough 90 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:43.079 votes to figure out that that guy's pretty much going to win. In fact, 91 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:46.990 there's not a good way for the other guy to win, that guy 92 00:07:46.029 --> 00:07:50.470 being Joe Biden, and is running mate, Kamala Harris, from California, 93 00:07:51.110 --> 00:07:57.189 and I think that's ultimately who I voted for. Like she's generation x like 94 00:07:57.310 --> 00:08:01.339 me, she's born and raised in the same area like me, and I'm 95 00:08:01.420 --> 00:08:05.740 like, well, fuck it, she at least she has my perspective in 96 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:09.540 mind and we have similar programming. If we were like just meet sex or 97 00:08:09.579 --> 00:08:13.449 robots or whatever you want, we were kind of programmed in the same way, 98 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:18.769 obviously not by the same people, but in the same geography during the 99 00:08:18.810 --> 00:08:24.089 same time period, because I don't know, like clearly trump was like just 100 00:08:24.529 --> 00:08:30.839 fucking train wreck, dumpster fire, whatever the fucking whatever the phrase you want 101 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.120 to call that. I don't even know what that is. So we needed 102 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:39.600 something new. But I have issues with religion somewhat. I'm not opposed to 103 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.470 it, I just have hisue issues with it, and I think Joe Biden 104 00:08:43.549 --> 00:08:48.629 is one of the more religious presidents we've had in a long time, way 105 00:08:48.750 --> 00:08:52.590 more. I mean trump wasn't religious. Obama played the game, but I 106 00:08:52.629 --> 00:08:58.340 don't think he was like hardcore into church. Bill Clinton, same Bush, 107 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:03.139 same Bush, same Reagan, not a church Guy. He was into astrology. 108 00:09:03.179 --> 00:09:07.259 Kind of portrayed himself Churchy to the Christians, but I think you have 109 00:09:07.379 --> 00:09:13.570 to go back to like Jimmy Carter to find somebody as religious as Joe Biden. 110 00:09:13.769 --> 00:09:16.970 But I don't know, hopefully it's not that big of a deal. 111 00:09:16.970 --> 00:09:22.210 As usual, I'm probably making way too much of something that's not important and 112 00:09:22.450 --> 00:09:28.279 ignoring something that is important. So the interest yesterday, when I I didn't 113 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.720 realize I was that emotional or about it. I voted on Tuesday morning and 114 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.399 just let it go. I was kind of tense up to that point, 115 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.830 kind of like when you're standing in line for a coup pul of hours to 116 00:09:41.870 --> 00:09:46.870 ride a suit cooper scary roller coaster, and then by the time I was 117 00:09:46.909 --> 00:09:50.870 in line voting and got there, I'm like, I felt like I was 118 00:09:50.029 --> 00:09:54.340 strapped into the coaster. I had made it. It was going to happen 119 00:09:54.779 --> 00:09:58.500 this so nothing was left to do but just hang on. So I felt 120 00:09:58.580 --> 00:10:03.620 much more relaxed and after I voted I'm like, okay, nothing else I 121 00:10:03.700 --> 00:10:07.809 can do. So that that point I turned off all the social media, 122 00:10:07.850 --> 00:10:11.289 the TV, the radio, news and all that. So that was that 123 00:10:11.450 --> 00:10:15.769 kind of lifted a burden off my shoulders. But Anyway, yesterday, when 124 00:10:15.809 --> 00:10:18.490 it finally came out and you see all the people coming out into the streets 125 00:10:18.610 --> 00:10:24.320 just celebrating, you kind of feel the same way. However, like I 126 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.159 didn't know what to do. I had a bunch of preroll joints on the 127 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.120 tray over there and I felt like a father had a baby and I was 128 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.230 out celebrating. Handed out instead of cigars. I was walking around the apartment 129 00:10:35.269 --> 00:10:39.309 complex and it out joints, like hey, I don't know what to do, 130 00:10:39.990 --> 00:10:43.389 so goddamn happy, here I have a joint. That was cool. 131 00:10:43.429 --> 00:10:46.950 It was exciting. But since, you know, being in Oklahoma, you 132 00:10:48.029 --> 00:10:50.580 get on local twitter and I follow. Usually wherever I move, I get 133 00:10:50.620 --> 00:10:54.860 on twitter and follow the local news stations to kind of get a feel for 134 00:10:56.059 --> 00:11:01.059 what the what's important and what other people are into. Well, there's one 135 00:11:01.139 --> 00:11:05.610 of them with their helicopter following a poor trump parade, you know, pickup 136 00:11:05.690 --> 00:11:09.450 trucks and flag sort of thing. There's about thirty or forty of them just 137 00:11:09.570 --> 00:11:13.769 driving around their peaceful you know, I'm not really causing any rucus or nothing 138 00:11:13.850 --> 00:11:18.039 like that, but this makes me feel bad for for them, like the 139 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:24.720 fans of the team that lost. So I don't know. In America there's 140 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:30.720 a football team American football called The Dallas Cowboys and they have a lot of 141 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.590 fans that have no affiliation with Dallas. They never lived there, they don't 142 00:11:35.590 --> 00:11:39.470 have family there, they never went to school there, but they have an 143 00:11:39.509 --> 00:11:45.230 affinity for the star and that kind of confederate colors and the America first kind 144 00:11:45.230 --> 00:11:52.740 of thing. And for many years Dallas had a shitty team. Well, 145 00:11:54.620 --> 00:11:56.659 I won't comment on the current team, but you know, their team just 146 00:11:56.740 --> 00:12:01.289 went downhill. They were the stars of the late s Roger Stabac, Tony 147 00:12:01.409 --> 00:12:07.649 Dorset, that sort of thing. Well, now Dallas Cowboy fans suck to 148 00:12:07.730 --> 00:12:13.289 watch a ball game with these days because they're like petulant little babies and every 149 00:12:13.330 --> 00:12:18.399 time their team loses it's the attitude of that type of person that is a 150 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:24.960 Dallas Cowboy fan is the same type of attitude who was a fan of Donald 151 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:30.190 Trump, and so when they lose, they fucking make it out on everybody 152 00:12:30.230 --> 00:12:33.070 else. They can't just admit that their quarterbacks sucked, you know. So 153 00:12:33.470 --> 00:12:37.149 again, I don't have much empathy at all for Donald Trump, I who, 154 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:41.789 because the prison and you know, lives out as remaining years behind bars. 155 00:12:41.710 --> 00:12:46.179 But I do have empathy for his friends, because I mean his friends 156 00:12:46.259 --> 00:12:48.659 first, supporters, not the sick offense, not the ones that surround him 157 00:12:48.659 --> 00:12:52.899 at the White House that enabled the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans due 158 00:12:52.940 --> 00:12:56.740 to covid kids in cages, none of that. They should all be in 159 00:12:56.820 --> 00:13:01.370 prison too. I'm talking about the voters who voted for him, and I 160 00:13:01.529 --> 00:13:07.769 say that after watching the emotions of the trump paraders yesterday. It's because I'm 161 00:13:07.769 --> 00:13:11.879 looking at these people like, yeah, they're kind of like me when I 162 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:16.960 rooted for the wrong team. I lived in San Francisco. San Francisco giants 163 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.080 sucked for decades. They sucked and sucked and sucked, and then there's a 164 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.080 two or three years there we got the title, everything was great and then 165 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.710 of course we got injured players and traded people away and we started sucking again. 166 00:13:28.549 --> 00:13:33.710 So I know how it goes to be that fan of a team that 167 00:13:33.629 --> 00:13:39.190 rises and falls. So that said, I think if we could frame it 168 00:13:39.309 --> 00:13:43.460 that way. I know it's a lot more life and death and dangerous then 169 00:13:43.659 --> 00:13:46.500 sports, but it's not unlike sports, and that we can show some empathy 170 00:13:48.019 --> 00:13:52.580 and sportsmanship for the fans of the other team. You know, they're not 171 00:13:52.779 --> 00:13:56.049 the other team, they are just fans of that team and they're they have 172 00:13:56.129 --> 00:14:01.929 a right to be emotional. They're not out wrecking anything. It sounds weird 173 00:14:01.970 --> 00:14:05.009 that I would have compassion for supporters of trump, but I see them as 174 00:14:05.169 --> 00:14:09.960 fans of a losing team and you know they just had a Shitty quarterback and 175 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.799 a lot of times if you have a Shitty quarterback you just double down say 176 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.919 fuck it, you know, that's the guy we got. We're going to 177 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.159 support them and til his traded or until he gets hurt. Well, this 178 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:26.230 case he's getting traded like the league is ending his time in office, and 179 00:14:26.750 --> 00:14:31.870 that's by no means to say let's not fucking celebrate and dance in the streets. 180 00:14:31.950 --> 00:14:35.549 So yeah, lots of emotions all over social media, all over the 181 00:14:35.710 --> 00:14:41.419 news. It's very empowering. It's nice to know the nation has spoken as 182 00:14:41.460 --> 00:14:46.899 spoken up on the side of light and not dark. That reminds me. 183 00:14:46.899 --> 00:14:54.289 In closing, there's a authoritarian quiz you can take online. I'll post the 184 00:14:54.370 --> 00:15:01.570 link with this episode and I took it. I had some friends take it. 185 00:15:01.490 --> 00:15:07.399 So here's the thing. Apparently there's about eighteen percent of humans in America, 186 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:15.000 people, adults, kids, whatever, whoever take this test, is 187 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:26.509 about eighteen percent who prefer authoritarians. So this kind of sinks up with the 188 00:15:26.629 --> 00:15:30.590 election just now. So if you think about it, we've had record turnout 189 00:15:30.629 --> 00:15:35.139 election in America, but that still only means about fifty percent of the population 190 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:41.500 voted. About two thirds of the eligible voters voted, but that's still only 191 00:15:41.659 --> 00:15:48.340 equates to a hundred and fifty million out of three hundred million Americans. So 192 00:15:48.620 --> 00:15:50.929 of that who voted, even split that down in half, you're down to 193 00:15:52.049 --> 00:15:56.970 twenty five percent of Americans. That starts to job with this quiz I took 194 00:15:56.009 --> 00:16:03.250 about authoritarians. So there's a weird thing, man, with people wanting authority 195 00:16:03.370 --> 00:16:07.759 and supporting the idea of authoritarianism, and a lot of it has to do 196 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.840 with how you feel about raising kids and how you were raised as a kid 197 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.039 and that sort of dynamic. So I will post a link, but I'm 198 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:21.029 curious to think where you fall on this authoritarian quiz. I come in like 199 00:16:21.190 --> 00:16:26.389 two points something. I think flaming lefty, Superpinko or some shit buddy mind 200 00:16:26.429 --> 00:16:32.070 got like four point one, which is right in the middle, and gets, 201 00:16:32.389 --> 00:16:33.779 I think gets up to about seven. I forgot the high part was, 202 00:16:33.899 --> 00:16:38.980 but yeah, it's really interesting. So the idea that we get rid 203 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:42.340 of a trump and like we're done with it. Here's why I like a 204 00:16:42.659 --> 00:16:47.409 back when I was in high school we used to get into fights with skinheads, 205 00:16:47.490 --> 00:16:52.049 like Nazi skinheads or Neo Nazis, new kind of Nazis. I'm not 206 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:56.129 I didn't go to high school in s Fort s. They come around and 207 00:16:56.610 --> 00:17:00.169 getting fights and throw bottles at each other and try to fuck each other up. 208 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.440 But we were Haad, of course, because there's so few of the 209 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:08.519 Nazis or Neo Nazis and without we dealt with that. But now here we 210 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.759 are a generation later and people my kids age are out there doing Nazi kind 211 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.349 of Shit again. So that's what led me to like do a little research 212 00:17:18.390 --> 00:17:21.230 and try to figure out what the fuck is going on here. I thought 213 00:17:21.230 --> 00:17:23.630 we dealt with the problem. That's not the problem. The problem is almost 214 00:17:23.630 --> 00:17:30.380 twenty percent of humanity wants an authoritarian to take care of them. That's fucking 215 00:17:30.460 --> 00:17:33.859 weird. So it's always going to be a threat and it'll be always on 216 00:17:33.900 --> 00:17:40.420 the top of my mind after take them that little quiz. So see, 217 00:17:40.460 --> 00:17:44.529 I've just rambled on for fucking twenty minutes and I haven't told you anything about 218 00:17:44.529 --> 00:17:47.970 why I'm changing the show. I guess I'll talk to you about that on 219 00:17:48.089 --> 00:17:51.809 tomorrow's episode. Right, cool, have a great night. talked to Tom