John; August 11, 2021

WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:09.269 I love George Carlin, but watched a good I love his question everything one 2 00:00:09.390 --> 00:00:12.189 that's just beautiful. He's actually the one that just says, you know, 3 00:00:12.230 --> 00:00:15.269 everything's bullshit and he just breaks it down. It's like Whoa, yeah, 4 00:00:15.509 --> 00:00:19.629 totally, yeah. But what's weird, though? Here's what's weird. Right. 5 00:00:20.109 --> 00:00:23.379 He broke that down in the S. I learned it in the s 6 00:00:23.739 --> 00:00:27.100 because I heard it then and then I've been fighting against it and trying to 7 00:00:27.140 --> 00:00:31.339 like inform people without sounding like a maniac my whole life. Right. And 8 00:00:31.460 --> 00:00:35.500 yet, wow, you nothing ever really actually were able to make sense of 9 00:00:35.579 --> 00:00:40.090 it in the S. Oh, sure, I we've specifically had that dirty 10 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:42.810 words. I forgot the album. I know what it looks like in my 11 00:00:42.890 --> 00:00:46.890 mind. Definitely were advanced because my God, last of my friends and me 12 00:00:47.369 --> 00:00:51.240 usually around the I call it the single digit era. It's like we didn't 13 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:54.600 know Shit. Well, when my no shit in the seven what happened, 14 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.240 though, was when my parents got separated, my dad went through like the 15 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:02.159 cool single dad phase. So he had a house with no furniture up in 16 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:03.909 Sacramento, like a brand new house, Really Nice House. He had like 17 00:01:03.989 --> 00:01:07.670 one couch. We had the fucking picnic table in the kitchen and then he 18 00:01:07.750 --> 00:01:11.629 had the bean bag chair. He would work all the time. I had 19 00:01:11.670 --> 00:01:14.349 my drum set there and he would work all the time. He'd leave money 20 00:01:14.390 --> 00:01:17.469 for food and he just be gone. But he also had a we're just 21 00:01:17.510 --> 00:01:19.980 raising yourself. Yeah, yeah, but he had a record collection. I 22 00:01:19.060 --> 00:01:22.980 had like cheach and Chong up and smoke. It had Steve Martin, it 23 00:01:23.099 --> 00:01:26.620 had George Carlin, had a bunch of those things. And and you were 24 00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:30.260 how old around this time? So this was at seventy eight, so ten. 25 00:01:30.939 --> 00:01:34.090 Yeah, okay, so, okay, I get it now. It's 26 00:01:34.129 --> 00:01:38.010 because of your age. Your one year, maybe year and a half, 27 00:01:38.129 --> 00:01:42.409 older than I am. And that's specific situation where you have it right up, 28 00:01:42.650 --> 00:01:47.359 no parents around and a record collection of some really intriguing looking shit and 29 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.760 then you put on it's like wait, this isn't music at all. These 30 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.599 talking and then he says some shit like Shit, Piss, fuck, cocksuck 31 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.040 the motherfucker and tits and like Whoa all of them at once. rewind that 32 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.879 Shit. Let me do that. Yeah, I think for me, dude, 33 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:02.750 it was eleven. I think was sixth grade going in the seventh. 34 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:09.949 Is when I started hearing all like Richard Pryor Fuck Yeah, who else? 35 00:02:10.469 --> 00:02:15.469 Well, mostly knows. Having having the token black friend that has his black 36 00:02:15.629 --> 00:02:21.419 culture influencing me and my white culture influencing him, it's just like oh now, 37 00:02:21.500 --> 00:02:23.379 that's right, dude, that is awesome. That's like sharing culture right. 38 00:02:24.219 --> 00:02:28.500 Well, that was that was the the great friendship I have with Lawrence 39 00:02:28.659 --> 00:02:32.330 Man. I mean when he introduced me to like comedy and soul and all 40 00:02:32.370 --> 00:02:37.370 that Shit, I introduced my iron maiden and Metallica and all this shit, 41 00:02:37.449 --> 00:02:39.449 and he's just like I like this stuff too. I'm like, Gol, 42 00:02:39.650 --> 00:02:44.759 yeah, it's awesome. Yew. Now we were. We were tight, 43 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:49.719 man, the merging of the mines. We were tight. Like how cultural, 44 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:53.479 I mean how culture transcends things. I wish I had more black friends 45 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.039 like him. I mean that's that's the interesting thing. Right there we were 46 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:02.189 talking about racism virtue versus Culturalism, or colts, racist versus culturalist. Whole 47 00:03:02.270 --> 00:03:07.750 right, his spit it out, John Right. It makes you wonder, 48 00:03:07.870 --> 00:03:10.349 like what causes people to drift apart? It's because you're not a racist, 49 00:03:10.349 --> 00:03:14.099 and I don't think he thinks you're a racist, but it is something about 50 00:03:14.539 --> 00:03:20.259 your culture, his culture, that changed well, no, he calls me 51 00:03:20.379 --> 00:03:23.580 pink neck because the n word did slip out of my mouth quite a bit 52 00:03:23.740 --> 00:03:28.009 sometimes around him, because it you don't say that word around me. Do 53 00:03:28.090 --> 00:03:30.930 you think you said it around him to test where the line was or what 54 00:03:31.129 --> 00:03:35.810 like? In hindsight, can you dissect that? I think you're on is 55 00:03:35.930 --> 00:03:38.050 something. Yes, I think there was a little bit of the test and 56 00:03:38.169 --> 00:03:45.240 a little bit of what I say test, I mean you're testing to see 57 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:46.479 if you fit in. Am I cool enough to be able to say this 58 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.080 along with you, because I've heard you say it like? That's what I 59 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.319 meant the question as well. He wasn't one of those types like prior who 60 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.909 said, you know, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Naga, Nagga. 61 00:03:57.310 --> 00:03:59.710 I mean, and if you say it right, you'll know because you get 62 00:03:59.830 --> 00:04:02.310 your ass kicked. Hey, you wait, it's the arth and and he 63 00:04:02.389 --> 00:04:06.229 had to explain that to me. It's just like I did. What is 64 00:04:06.310 --> 00:04:10.979 it with that word that triggers you? And he goes, it's wooded, 65 00:04:11.020 --> 00:04:14.060 girl, youth. What did you think, girl? Well, even I 66 00:04:14.139 --> 00:04:17.019 won't say it because I clearly know what about that word would trigger a black. 67 00:04:17.060 --> 00:04:20.420 I didn't know at that time. So I wanted to learn. I'm 68 00:04:20.459 --> 00:04:25.850 like, Dude, what what is it that sets you? Cuts off with 69 00:04:26.290 --> 00:04:29.209 the her part, because you get you guys use the word, but you 70 00:04:29.490 --> 00:04:32.089 replace it with the with an AIG just to go nigga. Did you ever 71 00:04:32.209 --> 00:04:35.170 see roots when you were a kid back in the day? Oh, yeah, 72 00:04:35.250 --> 00:04:38.839 but I don't. I don't remember much of it. I just remember 73 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.800 the violent part of it. That's about it. I just remembered they said 74 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.759 that word a lot and I'm like, Oh, we can't say that word 75 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:46.759 then, right, but that was like seventy six, dude, that was 76 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:51.839 a long time ago. Well, yeah, I mean a lot of the 77 00:04:53.029 --> 00:04:55.870 if you think of the s man, there was still a lot of the 78 00:04:55.949 --> 00:05:00.350 racist talk in the movies. Yeah, for sure. Oh, definitely dolemite. 79 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:02.069 I used to be a big fan of dolomite. And what was the 80 00:05:02.110 --> 00:05:05.670 other one? Shaft, of course, was good car wash, all those 81 00:05:05.670 --> 00:05:10.060 things. But yeah, but was that white white dude using the GIRR part? 82 00:05:12.100 --> 00:05:15.620 No, definitely, okay, no, I knew like right away. 83 00:05:15.699 --> 00:05:17.660 I'm driving and I'm driving at the girl part. I remember being a young 84 00:05:17.740 --> 00:05:21.769 kid and tripping out when we came home from my grandma's house because she said 85 00:05:21.810 --> 00:05:25.810 that word and I asked my mamma I thought that word was bad. She 86 00:05:25.889 --> 00:05:27.810 goes out, yeah, you can't say that word. Im like all right, 87 00:05:27.850 --> 00:05:30.490 I just double checking. Why it's grandma say it. Well, grandma 88 00:05:30.529 --> 00:05:32.089 was born in one thousand nine hundred and three and you know, see, 89 00:05:32.290 --> 00:05:36.759 if it's not a you shouldn't say the word. It's or no, no, 90 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.319 you can't say that word. It's you shouldn't say that word. Actually, 91 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.560 I think she framed it like we don't, like in our tribe and 92 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.160 our family we don't, because there was always like there's a thing. Yeah, 93 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:50.389 it's like we don't say that word. I'm like, I get it 94 00:05:50.670 --> 00:05:55.149 whatever. So if I wanted to be part of we, I didn't say 95 00:05:55.189 --> 00:05:59.709 that word. Well, I think bringing in or having, you know, 96 00:05:59.990 --> 00:06:03.620 my first black friend at that age, bringing him into this House, helped 97 00:06:03.779 --> 00:06:10.339 my dad with being comfortable around them. I think he was. He called 98 00:06:10.379 --> 00:06:20.050 them them. Well, he had word a few times, but that's wild. 99 00:06:20.329 --> 00:06:26.089 My Dad's tops and he's an asshole and a fucking power punk authority kind 100 00:06:26.129 --> 00:06:29.689 of guy, but he never said that word. Weird. Your Dad's way 101 00:06:29.769 --> 00:06:31.370 older too, though, like your dad would be more like in my grandma 102 00:06:31.490 --> 00:06:34.399 category. Well, yeah, my dad grew up in the depression, so 103 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:40.199 he saw some shit, not to mention gripped in Chicago. So I'm not 104 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.800 talking about what he saw, I'm just talking about the common use of words 105 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.319 back then. That was more. But he was also in the navy, 106 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:53.629 which, because I've been looking going through boxes and I'm seeing pictures lately of 107 00:06:54.110 --> 00:06:57.790 his, is him in the navy with his squad, I guess you call 108 00:06:57.829 --> 00:07:02.300 it, and I do not recall seeing one black person in that photo. 109 00:07:02.339 --> 00:07:06.180 Yeah, no, times were definitely more racist back then. They're probably didn't 110 00:07:06.180 --> 00:07:10.339 want black people on submarines with them. I mean, honestly, I'm not 111 00:07:10.459 --> 00:07:13.579 saying that that's a rational thought at all when I'm like, there might have 112 00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:15.370 been some unspoken thing back then. Who knows, it was a long time. 113 00:07:15.370 --> 00:07:18.649 I think you're right. I think it was more accepted in the army. 114 00:07:19.850 --> 00:07:23.370 Dude, let's not live. They were just thrown up on the front 115 00:07:23.410 --> 00:07:26.610 lines. Is Meet for the machine guns for the other side. Just, 116 00:07:26.810 --> 00:07:29.329 yeah, you know what I mean. So, like anything that was a 117 00:07:29.410 --> 00:07:31.439 safe job, like a submarine. That was like those are pretty safe. 118 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.319 We're not going to put a black guy in there. Put Him in the 119 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:41.680 dangerous jobs. But getting back to my dad, he was never what I 120 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:47.949 would call like those people, you know, like the way the the KKK 121 00:07:48.389 --> 00:07:53.149 said Shit. You know, it's like little sure James nigger swimming back to 122 00:07:53.230 --> 00:07:57.269 Africa with a Jew under each arm. Member that. No, that's crazy 123 00:07:57.350 --> 00:08:03.620 shit. Yeah, and it was never anything like that. It's just, 124 00:08:03.860 --> 00:08:07.699 you know, they they should be. We're in their own thing, I 125 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:13.970 guess would be the way to describe how he so he would be more like 126 00:08:13.050 --> 00:08:16.089 a Semigl Sey, like the mixing of it. I wonder why. I 127 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:20.529 mean I it's we probably shouldn't even wonder why other people think the things they 128 00:08:20.569 --> 00:08:22.529 do. So let's not do that. But so you're saying he was more 129 00:08:22.610 --> 00:08:28.639 of a segregationists, like people are happy as when they're with their own I 130 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.120 guess. Well, again, this is so long ago I don't remember. 131 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.919 Yeah, I'm sure you never said it out right. It's not something people 132 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.759 would say out right because it's something that we don't even talk about in high 133 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.789 school. When you look at a high school cafeteria, it's clear that that's 134 00:08:41.830 --> 00:08:43.870 what humans do. They're most comfortable around their own. The geeks it with 135 00:08:43.950 --> 00:08:48.990 each other, the bands, people, the stoners, the black kids, 136 00:08:48.269 --> 00:08:52.710 that Chinese kids, that you know what I mean, they still just gravitate 137 00:08:52.789 --> 00:08:56.299 towards its own. I guess we just feel safer in a mixed environment, 138 00:08:56.340 --> 00:08:58.860 when we're around people that we think are like us. And I think I 139 00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:05.019 got lucky with Ignatia valley because I do not recall racism being a thing. 140 00:09:07.779 --> 00:09:11.210 And it's basically how you described it. You know, you had each each 141 00:09:11.250 --> 00:09:16.169 race, Hay kind of hanging out with each other and and white people split 142 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:18.169 up into their own you know I mean, it's not just one big white 143 00:09:18.289 --> 00:09:22.009 white race sitting amongst the others. There's definitely the ones that hung out by 144 00:09:22.049 --> 00:09:26.080 the tennis courts. That's I me raising my hand. And so I think, 145 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.639 I think jocks and stoners were the most, shall we say, acceptance 146 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:39.830 of other races into their groups. Yes, back to our the culturist thing. 147 00:09:39.110 --> 00:09:43.509 We were not racist, we were culturist. If you accepted that we 148 00:09:43.590 --> 00:09:46.590 were stoners, you were all welcome, which was great, because every cult 149 00:09:46.710 --> 00:09:52.509 every race, let's say, brought their own musical taste to our stoner culture. 150 00:09:54.460 --> 00:10:03.419 And I remember the first time Asian Indian, when I when I had 151 00:10:05.419 --> 00:10:13.049 encounters with with them, it seemed they were always smelly. That was that 152 00:10:13.169 --> 00:10:16.809 was the first impression they did. They did have a different sand dude. 153 00:10:16.929 --> 00:10:20.759 In fact, between Your House and my house. I forgot what court was 154 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.759 over there on that side of the street, maybe two up, I think, 155 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.799 maybe rugby court. All Right, one of my best friends from back 156 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.159 in the day who might have ended up going to the high school with you, 157 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.080 if they still live there, was a shoe and I loved it him. 158 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.029 Like he has a name, like you say, bless you every time 159 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:41.029 he says his name. What's you exactly? Who? He's like a show 160 00:10:41.110 --> 00:10:45.509 and I'm like bless you. Anyway, I went to his house and I've 161 00:10:45.549 --> 00:10:48.230 freaked out like what the fuck, like what the fuck is this? As 162 00:10:48.269 --> 00:10:50.580 a little kid right pulled out, what the fuck is his voice? Because 163 00:10:50.580 --> 00:10:56.100 he had that smell. They had super shag carpets, like way beyond normal 164 00:10:56.220 --> 00:11:00.740 carpet length, all cattled walls right, and then then the we had that 165 00:11:00.899 --> 00:11:05.769 to the curry smell was all up in that shag carpet smell everywhere. I'm 166 00:11:05.809 --> 00:11:11.210 like, Whoa. Well, it was a combination of body odor mixed with 167 00:11:11.409 --> 00:11:15.490 the curry that I detected. I was just like Oh this is. Well, 168 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:20.159 yeah, it was, because there was the impression of a fucking an 169 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:26.200 Asian Indian. For me, that is apparently normal because they in their culture, 170 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.840 again, the culturest thing. They shower less and use more fragrance, 171 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:33.990 like what you call it Cologne were let's call it Cologne. I don't know 172 00:11:33.990 --> 00:11:37.389 what exactly it is. Could be put Julie Oil, but I don't want 173 00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:41.470 to like be facetious. So yeah, they shower less, use more fragrance 174 00:11:41.509 --> 00:11:45.429 and they cook with curry which then goes through their system and out their bowels 175 00:11:45.470 --> 00:11:48.019 and so their whole their whole house is like, Whoa, this is intense. 176 00:11:48.340 --> 00:11:50.860 Anyway, it was no worse than anywhere else and you get used to 177 00:11:50.899 --> 00:11:54.659 it after about ten minutes. But I remember getting hit in the face every 178 00:11:54.700 --> 00:11:58.700 time I went to as shoes house with that scent, you like, that 179 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:03.610 just invisible cloud of scent. I canot like fucking Han Solo when they fell 180 00:12:03.690 --> 00:12:07.649 into the garbage bit no offense. So wow, what an incredible smell you've 181 00:12:07.690 --> 00:12:13.570 discovered. Yes, yeah, it's funny say anyway. Yeah, but back 182 00:12:13.610 --> 00:12:18.240 to this, my first impression of Asian Indian. Now, so we'd so 183 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.679 get into the culturist versus racist thing do if that sounds it's starting to sound 184 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.200 like the more we talked about it, that it is pretty valid. Because 185 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:30.830 who was? What culture would you say you were in in high school? 186 00:12:31.470 --> 00:12:33.230 You wouldn't say you were in the white culture, right with you'd be a 187 00:12:33.309 --> 00:12:37.110 Jock, a stoner, a Rocker, video club guy, like we were. 188 00:12:37.309 --> 00:12:41.269 We were. We had our own little like five dude group. So 189 00:12:41.470 --> 00:12:45.500 did we. What was the primary thrust of your culture? I would say 190 00:12:45.539 --> 00:12:50.299 ours was music and skateboards. Music, for sure, metal, metal definitely 191 00:12:50.580 --> 00:12:54.419 was the bond. Okay, so you're like a little metal crew, but 192 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:58.730 we didn't hang around the stoners because we weren't stoner's. Yeah, no, 193 00:12:58.850 --> 00:13:01.090 it's understandable. So you probably didn't look like them either. So right, 194 00:13:01.129 --> 00:13:03.730 because that's a thing in high school. You don't want to look like a 195 00:13:03.850 --> 00:13:09.129 metal stoner. If you're a metal square, wear for well, yeah, 196 00:13:09.210 --> 00:13:13.919 I didn't dress the wallabies and the fucking Derby, you know, the uniforms 197 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.759 in dressing high school. Dude. I did wear rock shirts, though, 198 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.600 but a lot of people that weren't stoner's or rock shirts, even chicks. 199 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.960 Yeah, for sure. What did you wear in high school, dude? 200 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.070 Most I never really thought about that. Like, what kind of shoes did 201 00:13:28.110 --> 00:13:31.429 you wear? Shoes, Jesus Christ, well, I mean you have. 202 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.149 Apparently you wore t shirts. That's pretty normal, and then you wore jeans, 203 00:13:35.429 --> 00:13:39.029 like Levis Im guessing or something. Oh yeah, and then were what 204 00:13:39.190 --> 00:13:41.539 was on your feet, though, because that's going to make the whole difference 205 00:13:41.580 --> 00:13:45.580 of this whole outfit. It could like now I'm really curious. I was 206 00:13:45.740 --> 00:13:50.059 more into tennis shoes. I do not recall which ones I've was wearing at 207 00:13:50.139 --> 00:13:52.259 that time. I did not. To this day, I still do not 208 00:13:52.419 --> 00:13:58.169 like vans, just because they're flat and my feet are flat, so it 209 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:01.529 doesn't help. I need an arch. I have vans once in a while. 210 00:14:01.330 --> 00:14:03.769 I like when I say do a man. When I saw Joey Ramon 211 00:14:03.970 --> 00:14:07.210 on the cover, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'll get some of those 212 00:14:07.370 --> 00:14:11.559 for sure. I never wore combat boots or so dude. I was a 213 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.039 big fan of Nike's, to be honest with you. Doc Martin's nothing like 214 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.559 that. I got that shit later after high school. Yeah, yeah, 215 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:33.269 I'd seen Nikes were funny. And now back to the wall