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But what we have is a reflection, like we have another human to reflect
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upon, to check that I'm still
real. I don't know if I'm real.
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Am I going to whom? I'm
going to check it against some somebody
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in Oklahoma. How does that proof
that I'm real? I don't know.
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So in my mind you're an attachment
to what is real. A fucking text
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back and forth with a friend from
high school that's like, Oh, I'm
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real. So it's a kind of
a reflection thing to me. It's a
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in that sense. It does field. That's that's weird. Yeah, or
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a connection to reality because we've all
been boxed up for so long it's like,
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well, what it whears my reality? I don't have like photo albums
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of me as a kid. I
don't. I don't know, like how
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do I even know I have a
past. So that's me in particular,
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but I think a lot of humans
have that same thing. When we've been
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boxed up, it's like well,
fuck, I need some reflection and you
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need in person that you know and
trust from the old days, from the
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old times, to check with.
It's like hey, is this a real
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thought? Is this fucking valid?
Is Rational? Do you think that's by
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design, though, because you've always
been that type since I've known you,
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that when you do something, you
move on from it, you don't want
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to save it. MMM, I
don't know how you mean. Okay,
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best example would be you mentioned that
you do not have a photo book of
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you a being young. Is that
because you've chose not to have one in
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your in your possession, or just
no pictures were taken? No picture.
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There were pictures taken, I just
I don't have those albums. Your mom
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probably does. Maybe they existed in
my ex she had a bunch too.
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They existed, but how do I
know that? They just didn't dump them
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into fire pit and now I don't
exist in the past. Okay, but
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why would you go down that path? Why wouldn't you be a little bit
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more optimistic and say, yeah,
they're out there somewhere? I don't really
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think about it that much. I
tried to just establish connections with people from
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the past instead. That makes more
sense to me, because I can't talk
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to photos or memories or things of
the past, but it's easy for me.
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Like I know you from the past, I know my friend, you
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know Steve and Sacramento from the past. Sure, any time I connect with
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people from the past, like Oh, okay, there's some slight root of
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reality to me. Well, I
get that. I'm just saying, though,
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that because my parents kept albums of
photos from, you know, the
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time I was born to I'd say
the lab maybe ten years ago, there
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are photo books to you know,
refer back to right, you have access.
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Yet I don't have access to those. You do. That's the difference.
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That's what I'm trying to say.
That's the difference. I don't have
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access to my past and it feels
fucking weird. But I'm saying if you
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talk to your mom about it and
said like Hey, do you actually have
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photo books of me, and if
she says no, then there you go.
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But maybe she says yeah, of
course, yes, she might,
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or my not, I'm not going
to be able to get to them,
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like you know what I mean.
So what's the point? And I got
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to sell them to me. Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying,
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though, that I want to say
that most parents did take pictures and
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kept them of their of their kids. Yeah, yeah, George, yeah,
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I know, we took him of
our kids with me in them.
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Like there's pictures of me and my
kids together that I just don't have access
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to. So I wonder if they
still exist. And even if someone said
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yes, they exist, there's no
way for me to have to have any
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proof of that. I bet they
do. Maybe I'm just saying deep be
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optimistic instead of being, you know, like, Oh yeah, they're probably
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fucking throw them away or, you
know, burn them and whatever. I
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I'm optimistic and saying that they're stuff
out there with you and those photos and
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with your kids. Or yeah,
maybe, you know when you were a
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kid too. Probably, maybe.
So I think there's an imprint. I'm
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not actually, no, that's not
the right word. I think there's photos
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of every single human out there some
kind. HMM, yeah, probably,
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just probably not all the ones I
remember taking right, right, you might,
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you might look you okay, say
you can come back here for a
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visit and you visit mom and you
bring it up to hers to say Hey,
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do you got photo books at me
or photo books of the kids or
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Blah, blah blah, and she
goes well, yes, a matter of
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fact, John, here here's a
here's what I can dig up for you.
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Oh yeah, now she's got like
a fucking rack full of them.
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I just don't know what's in them, you know. I mean I know
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where they are, unless she's re
arranged, but I mean like a gigantic
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bookshelf. It looks like Encyclopedia Britannica
because, remember, she's crafty, so
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she makes like scrap book giant covers
and there's probably more than just photos in
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there, but I don't know.
Yeah, for sure. Sometimes I think
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she just threw all mine away and
get my sisters. Why, though,
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because when I've gone over there,
those are the only pictures I see on
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the wall. Oh, okay,
I see what you're okay, I see
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what you're getting now, all right, it's a little bit creepy. That's
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why I get the feeling that of
a favorite one. Oh, of course,
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but he was the favorite one and
you were the outcast. Only later
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in life. Yeah, teen years
on right. Yeah, yeah, after
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they kick me out of them.
Of course, I didn't become what they
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wanted to me to be. After
they kick me out of the House.
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Go figure. We you are not
being all you can be. Just wasn't
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conforming with what you to be.
Yeah, and that they would. They
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were never specific as to what they
wanted me to because I was just better.
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That's an impossible task. You've straally, you've striven, striven. Yeah,
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I think about that word a lot
to what why am I keep striving?
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What? What's this about so being, so striven? And I'm like
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that's not a word. Or dren, it's not driven. I don't know,
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it's driven. I tried to just
try to keep stepping forward if you
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don't have a choice. But yeah, the lack of photos makes me guess.
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I've been reading one thousand nineteen eighty
four, remember again, and that's
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a big things like who controls the
past? Controls the present? Who controls
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the you know, present control of
the future, so on, so forth.
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But a big thing in one thousand
nine hundred eighty four is they have
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this thing called the memory hole,
and it's most buildings that are government buildings,
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because most buildings are government buildings in
this future have slits in the walls,
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vertical slits kind of ovows, couple
inches wide, foot or so long,
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that lead to a duct that just
turn everything you drop them there into
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a furnace, destroys it. So
if you go to the Ministry of truth,
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their whole job is to go back
in history and rewrite articles and destroy
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the original articles and photographs and so
forth and put them in the memory hole
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so that history never happened. The
new history is the history. HMM.
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So I often think. I'm like, well, they could just fucking race
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me, is fucking throw all my
pictures away, all these thoughts. Sometimes
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I'm wonders. That why I do
a podcast, because at least they can't
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e raise this. Right, right, but, but do you but do
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you think you're being singled out?
I mean, do you think of other
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people that might have the same type
of dilemma that you ponder? Oh,
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yeah, no, I'm not the
only one. For sure, they get
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cut out of other people's lives.
I don't know anybody personally. Don't think
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about it anymore. Yeah, I
don't know why. I just I've kind
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of settled into my I'm going to
be alone, alone, er, probably
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the rest of my life. I've
just settled into that. I've I've become
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so comfortable with it that when people
ask me or just like yeah, you
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got a girl, or you know, you in a relationship or anything like
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that, and my response now is
I just don't think I'm relationship material in
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the sense of, you know what
they believe is relationship material. I I've
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just I do my own thing for
so long I don't I don't know anything
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else, and I think that's kind
of where you're at to it's just like
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this is what I do, this
is all I know. Yeah, I
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don't really have a problem with being
alone, because I've been. I don't
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either. I got some saying I'm
a lone R. I'm not alone,
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I'm a lone Er. Yeah,
two different things in my opinion. I
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have a problem with being lonely,
though. Sometimes, and it doesn't matter
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if I'm with people or alone,
I get lonely with people or alone.
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It's that's two separate sure feelings.
You know what I mean? Me Too.
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Yeah, yeah, I totally relate. HMM, excuse me. Sorry.
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I think lonely is just the feeling. The introvert thing too. I
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think the introvert thing has a lot
to do with yeah, if I'm around
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a bunch of bunch of people,
I feel alone. Well, if I'm
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by myself, I feel alone.
So there's this whole alone thing that I
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think a lot of us feel.
To me it's a feeling of not being
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understood in my circumstance. So if
I'm alone with myself and I'm not you
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know, I'm just not present.
Yeah, I could start to feel lonely
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if I'm with other people, though, and don't feel engaged or connected or
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like a part of that or mostly
understood. Oh my God, there's nothing
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worse like if you're saying a pub
or a bar and you make a joke
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cut out loud that three people down
the bark in here and just fell flat.
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And now the bartender ignores you,
and then some hot chicks come on
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and the bartender whispers to the hot
chicks and you're thinking, ah, fuck,
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know where did that happened? Okay, well, I'm just making up
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scenarios because I'm creative in my head, but you know, yes, so,
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just like anything, could just happen
and instantly you're thinking, I'm totally
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misunderstood. There's now seven people in
this room that think I'm a fucking idiot
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it, and that's horrible. That's
horrible lonely feeling. Okay, now that's
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retreating in your own head and assuming
that that's what they're thinking of you.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. This
is kind of what we're talking about,
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or learning about in the self sabotage
book. It's called mind reading, like
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it's a self sabotage, and behavior
called mind reading, like assuming what the
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other people think about you. I've
gotten a lot better with that and not
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giving a fuck of what other people
think of me. The only time,
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like say, for example, I
feel lonely when I go to, you
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know, some of the beer places, I try and make my presence known.
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Well, I'm I try think is
right and be loud enough. There's
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a difference between not giving a fuck
what people think about you and assuming they
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think the worst. Do you see
the difference now? Well, if because
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I do care what people think about
me, but only if it's good,
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you know, I mean. So
I care if they like me, because
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if they like me, I'll probably
have high chance of liking them back and
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then we'll be friends. But if
I assume the worst, that they just
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thought I'm an asshole because my joke
was dumb, I'm going to dig myself
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a deep hole there because I'm assuming
the worst. I'm mind reading bad things
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into that situation. Right, the
assuming thing is what's fucking you up?
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Yeah, yeah, that's it's that's
the mind reading. So so it's a
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bit different. Than not giving a
fuck what people think, because, yeah,
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most people do give a fuck what
people think because you're you're looking for
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someone who thinks just like you or
different than you or whatever. You're looking
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for a vibe or a partner,
somebody to talk to. So you have
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to project out to kind of like
throw out the the real into the room
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and say hey, this is me
projecting that today. See what I catch.
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I hear that, that's fine too. But what happens after that is
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problematic. Like if you get no
response, sometimes it's like yeah, fuck
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this place, or sometimes it's like
yeah, as a stupid thing for me
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to do or whatever. Right.
But do you beat yourself up a lot
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on that, like, for example, when you say that you know you're
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in a place and you don't feel
like you're accepting, you just like fuck
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this place, the stew about it, or do you just leave and try
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and think of other things to do? To here's the thing. It's it's
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a cum cumulative effect. So it's
I do I will leave immediately, but
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then I'll go the next place and
leaving me. I'm exaggerating here obviously,
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but then if you do it five
or six, seven times and you leave
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immediately. Pretty soon it becomes fuck
every place. Everybody hates me. It's
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just starts to dovetail into this fucking
toxic soup of self hate. And do
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you go into everyone hates me a
lot more than I wish to, more
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than I used to. When I
was younger, Dude, like in my
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twenty is, I was super like
up be Mr Positive, and I still
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can act positive. People say,
Oh, you such a positive of person.
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I mean that's just power and program
to speak and motion. But well,
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yeah, that's the surface. You
putting it out there. Yeah,
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that's my fucking Westworld fucking robot just
doing its thing. That's you. That's
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your that it's like cloak and dagger, you know. That's that's your cloak.
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Yeah, it's like, leave me
the fuck alone, I'm trying to
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be normal. Okay, I made
it past that encounter. Starting to think
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of media like drugs. He was
mainlining facebook and twitter and instagram all day
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long. Hell Yeah, dude,
the whole entire Internet thing is is like
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a drug. It's just a matter
of how you use it, how you
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what your dose, how much,
that much you take? Yeah, yeah,
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seth rogue in the other day said
it was like poison and death.
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He has to do it very small
doses because he realizes it's just death.
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Seth Rogan said that. Yeah,
city went through some work with this therapist
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and he avoids it because he realizes, you know, smokes too, so
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he realizes he does some things that
are not good for him, but he
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categorizes social media as one of those
things. So it tries to limit it
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a lot, which I think is
brilliant. Again, I think it goes
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beyond social media. I think it's
just the Internet in general well, and
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humans addictive nature. Here's the thing, and I think La hold on,
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let me get a drink my I'm
getting little cotton mouth and I hear it
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in the MIC. HMM MMM MMM. This show brought to you by water
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on his side and coffee on mine. Forgot the fuck I was talking about
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rolling in Los Angeles. They're paying
people, they're paying drug addicts to get
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off the drugs, using taxpayer money
to pay drug addicts to send all these
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doing that, though it's working.
How are they doing that, though?
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When you say they're paying drug addicts
to stop doing drugs? What is it
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they're doing? They test them for
drugs, make sure they stopped, give
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them a cash like a government check
thing, and then if they keep staying
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clean, they keep getting a check. Okay, I don't know. I'm
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I mean I'm all for solutions to
the problem. I'm just I just don't
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think that's the isn't this just trading
one addiction for another? Isn't that what
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this is? What do you mean? In well, they always talk about
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like, well, I quit drinking, but I picked up smoking, so
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you just traded one addiction for another. Or I quit smoking cigarettes and now
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I snort coke or whatever. So
you just you just switch one addiction for
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another. Here's a big one in
the drunk world is I quit drinking because
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I found Jesus. But really,
Jesus becomes the fucking addiction. They can't
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live without. Revi you know,
reverting to a Bible like, well,
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let me let me check, like
a good, good check. Yeah,
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my addiction right now. Your hundred
percent right. You replacing something else with
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that addiction with something else. So
what's the biggest fucking Dick America sucks on?
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It's not religion, it's money.
So we're trading addicts. Were like
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here, stop shooting heroin and instead
shoot cash and then we get them hooked
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on the fucking capitalist addiction. I'm
like, we're just trading yeah, of
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course we're trading addictions. I don't
like it. I don't think it's going
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to work. I'm not opposed to
giving people free money while you just giving
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out money, okay, but thinking
that just switching addictions is going to make
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any kind of long term difference is
stupid. God, got, I got,
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and now back to the wall.