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It's only and now it's online Bible
this stylecom John Emotions with Bible style.
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Hey, what's up? This johnny
emotions and this is another dog days of
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August podcast. However, this one
is really special. My other show,
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bipolar style, started about a year
ago and I put up a slack channel
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at Bipolar Partycom so that people who
listen to the show could come in and
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share and just have a place off
of facebook and twitter to talk to other
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people with similar mental conditions and what
that's turned into. As also found some
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other podcasters and now we are going
to do a little podcast set up similar
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to a dbsay meeting, which is
the depression and bipolar support alliance, in
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which we sit in the group where
there's only three of us here today,
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but the we've done it with larger
groups, we just did not record them,
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and we're doing this kind of test
to let people listen so that if
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you are into it, you can
come visit us at Bipolar Party and maybe
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participate in another on upcoming group that's
just like this, just recorded for the
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public to hear how people with bipolar
disorders interact with each other. So that
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said, I said, there's two
other people here with us. I will
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let them introduce themselves. Started on
my left, Becky, once you go
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first. Hi, I'm becky and
I have bipolar disorder and porderline personality disorder,
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and that's podcast. That's why I'm
here. Yeah, I told Your
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podcast you because love I get lots
of new listeners on these dog days of
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podcasting. So, on top of
the John Emotion show you're listening to now,
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bipolar style, becky's got one to
promote. Away. Becky's is your
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Chans. Totally. It's called that
B word and we cover everything from mental
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health, from borderline personality disorder to
bipolar disorder. Add lead. Had somebody
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with aspergers on recently and I have
an upcoming episode about did. This is
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you have identity disorder. So it's
going to be pretty cool. Wow,
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that's exciting. We talked about the
disassociative thing in the slack channel. That's
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pretty amazing. Well, apparently a
lot of us with bipolar disorder also feel
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the world hates us, maybe like
borderline personality disorder type symptoms, and also
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the disassociation when you get so stressed
out you don't even know who you are.
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You don't feel like you're you sometimes, so that's awesome, and sitting
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next to you. All right,
this is Brian. I'm I also have
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bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder.
I don't have a podcasts but I am
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very active on the bipolar partycom.
I'm the consider myself the misfit of the
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group. That's such a borderline thing
to say. I know in Becky's mind
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she's all know I'm the MISFIT,
and in my mind I'm like no,
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I'm definitely the misfits, but I
don't know. I've what's that accent?
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Everyone here's the accent. Where is
that really you hear my accent? I'm
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I'm from North I'm from North Carolina. It's I'm a red knet from North
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Carolina. White Trash. Trash is
a little rough, but we appreciate you.
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I love the icon. I come
straight for the trailer park. What
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part of the country are you and
Becky? I'm in Ohio, so kind
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of the middle of America. I'm
on the left side in California. So
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we've got effectively three white people in
America. We've got a left of middle
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and a right side of the country
and kind of politically speaking, kind of
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similar to on the left, middle
and right over there. So we don't
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talk about politics too much in our
bipolar party. Just not what we're there
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for. We all, everybody has
an opinion on that and that's not the
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normal way we're going to typically introduce
people in Group. I just wanted to
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let these folks know because Brian also
is going to start a podcast, like
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he's interested in it, and you
could tell most people don't want to jump
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up on the MIC. He's already
got his mic and his computer setup.
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So look forward to a podcast from
him shortly. Yeah, I would expect
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it, would you think? I
think so. I just need to organize
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my thoughts and make sure I have
enough contact to put something out there that
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people would be interested in. Yeah, or do like I do, just
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talk even if people aren't interested.
Also, it's the greatest thing ever join
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the party at bipolar PARTYCOM. Okay, so now let's pretend we're actually add
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a dbs a meeting. Brian,
you've not actually been to one, Becky,
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you have Right, and I've been
to the online okay. So,
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yeah, I'll play moderator and I
don't have a script. We're not actually
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a DBSA affiliated group in any way, but they're the typically read a bunch
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of rules in the beginning of the
group. The one thing that I think
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is important to reiterate on the podcast
and to listeners. When you're in a
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group setting like this, we're not
trying to fix the other person. I'm
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not trying to help you. I'm
not a therapist, I'm not a professional,
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amout a doctor, etc. So
when somebody shares their opinion, I'm
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the shares their perspective or shares their
trouble. When we respond to them,
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we use what's called eye language,
and I don't mean your eyeballs, I
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mean using the word I. So, for example, if if Joeys said
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I'm having a problem with my ex
wife, she won't let me see the
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kids that at all, my response
would not be have you done this?
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Have you tried this? Have you? Have you? Have you had you
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know what I mean. I'm not
here to fix him. He's not.
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I'm not to grill that person.
The way to respond in this kind of
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group setting is hey, joey,
it was my experience when my wife didn't
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let me see my kids, that
I did X, Y and Z.
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So when we say eye language.
That's the best way to reply to a
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group. It's not as big of
a deal with just three of us,
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but when there's ten of us it
makes a big deal because everyone's trying to
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fix the person who just shared.
It kind of gets out of control.
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Right. So let's introduce ourselves,
not the long way, like the way
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we'd normally do in a group is
like, hi, I'm John. I
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had a pretty good week. A
scale of one to ten, I'd say
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it's about it, seven and a
half, and I would like to share
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later. And then you go Becky, okay, Oh, and I got
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me now. So just you just
say basically like what I said. You
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said, Hey, I'm Becky,
I had a pretty good week or and
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then whether or not you want to
share. Yeah, well, I'm becky
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and I've had a lot of ups
and downs this week and I will probably
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share later. Probably. All right. Hi, I'm Brian and I I've
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had some ups and downs this week, because I don't really want to rate
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myself my week, but I'm going
to share later. Okay, excellent.
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So it looks like we have three
shares in today's group and unless somebody has
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an urgent share, we will start
on my left and go clockwise. So,
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Becky, tell us what you like
to share today. Well, it's
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just it's been a crazy week because
my my mom has had started to have
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seizures and using the car accident,
and so that kind of puts me in
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a difficult mindset. I guess I've
been having trouble with suicidal thoughts and Ivigation
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and yeah, that's kind of what's
been going on and I don't feel like
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there's been any I mean, there
are people that I can tell and things,
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but I don't feel like I'm being
heard. I guess I don't know,
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but you know, I'm safe,
I'm not doing anything, but I
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just don't know what to I don't
to do about it. I have similar
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issues when my parents are in distress, because I'm not really sure what to
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do. I don't have the tools
of the resources to help them. MMM.
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And it also brings life into perspectives
like way, when they die,
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as much as they get on my
nerves, I won't they won't be there
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to even help me, like I
don't feel that they help me much now,
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but I'm sure they do. You
know what I mean? I just
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not processing it properly or something.
But yeah, when they're in distress it
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makes me feel helpless and hopeless.
And once if yeah, what, I
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don't know the details of how how
your mom's condition is making you feel.
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I just know, like one of
my mom or my dad or in that
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state, I really just feel helpless. So I'm am sorry push you off
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to the suicidal ideation area, because
that always sucks. Yeah, it does.
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It's it comes up a lot.
Yeah, in my experience when I've
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had this suicidal I aviations, I
it, Gosh, you just don't want
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to you don't you don't want to
do anything. I mean you just want
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to lay in bad and salt.
I guess I don't know if Salk's a
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right word, but so I know
what you're going through. Becky. Thanks.
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I feel that when yeah, it's
the I think it's the hopelessness that
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is that what it feels like to
you. Is because a lot of times
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when I feel the suicidal ideation bit
hmm or even yeah, it's more of
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a I don't want to kill myself, I just want everything to end.
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It just it. Sometimes things feel
so hopeless it's like, what's the whole
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point? I'm so tired, I'm
so exhausted. Can it just please stop?
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I'm wondering if there's a God,
can you just take me out so
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I don't look like I killed myself? It's right so wanting to end this
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feeling more that. There's never like
I want to punish them for the way
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they treated me, like the thirteen
reasons why kind of bullshit set up on
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Netflix. That perspective, my suicidal
idiation never looks like that. I would
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never blame somebody else for the way
I feel. I feel the way I
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feel because I it's hopelessness. It's
the way I've added up all the parts
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in my own head. That feels
hopeless. And yes, and and as
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I just hope when people here that
we talk about suicidal ideation a lot of
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times. From almost all the people
I've talked to in the group, nobody
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ever wants to punish the living.
Nobody. It's never a selfish move.
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It's like I'm it's hopeless. It's
a you feel so vacant, so pointless,
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like I'm just taking up food.
I'm just, you know, shitting
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up the river. I'm just,
I'm a waste of life. Why I'm
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I even on the planet here?
Let me help society by removing me from
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the equation. I know when I've
been suicidal. Like you, hear these
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horror stories about get up hitch hikers, you know, and I actually pick
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up a hitch hiker one day,
hoping in my in my head that he
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would do something to end it so
I wouldn't have to do it myself.
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Yeah, I know that feeling.
That's what you're talking about. Yeah,
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it's like putting yourself in dangerous situations. When I was in Los Angeles downtown,
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I used to go jogging through skid
row and to the point where I
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was thinking I'm going to get some
tshirts that likes a skid row jogging club
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or something like that. You know
what I mean. But the whole idea
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was like I'm just running through skid
row because maybe I might die here,
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like maybe, Oh, the white
guy got killed in skid row. I
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don't want that story either, but
I was wonder like why do why do
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we put ourselves in dangerous situations if
we're not somewhat suicidal? Is it purely
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adrenaline? Is it is an adventure, or is it just trying to fight?
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Like you know how people cut themselves
or or harm themselves or scratch themselves
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to feel like real, to feel
if they're real. I wonder if we
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do the same things by putting ourselves
in dangerous situations just to feel something besides
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hopelessness and emptiness. I think so. I think that's a lot of what
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it has to do with it.
Maybe we should go to amusement parks more
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often or something. We should feel
that void was something more uppet. That's
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why, that's why I and my
mania and suicidal. I mean, I
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think you can have both the same
time. For sure. I'm you know,
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I drive my car like a maniac
and go a hundred and something miles
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per hour to see how fast I
can go, just for the just for
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the kick of it. Yeah,
you know right, and I feel the
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same way. I think I'm at
my biggest danger to myself when I'm in
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a mixed state, because I have
the depression enough to pull me down and
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make me think everything is hopeless,
but I also have the manic energy to
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follow through, to like to go
do something, to make something happen.
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Yeah, it's tough. I don't
don't like to talk about too much because
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I don't have my own answers,
even when I get to that situation because
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every every time I get to that
point it's a different situation and for everybody,
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every human, it's a different situation. So it's hard to say like
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this is what will save your life
the next time, because I don't,
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I don't honestly know. That sucks. Feeling today back you feeling better like
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now than even an hour ago?
Yeah, I'm feeling okay today so far.
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Yeah, it's a really yeah,
well, it's Saturday, though.
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That's always helpful because there's no pressure
to work. I mean you could always
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UN find yourself a little bit,
right, like you said, maybe go
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see a movie or something later.
Yeah, I think going out and just
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something, kind of paradoxically, going
out in something, something by myself.
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Yeah, yes, it's like meditating
or just tell, you know, some
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me time, whatever they want to
call it. Nice. Well, thanks
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for sharing now, B r.
If something more sure, I'm sure.
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I I've been you know, my
meds. I'm on a couple different meds
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that helped me with my depression.
I don't know if is this the place
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to talk about meds? Fu Yeah, dude, people love talking about mad
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just the one connective thing when you
say I'm on Sara Quell or I'm on
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the mittel. All of a sudden
everybody that listens that has bipolar disorder instantly
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they're like, oh, yeah,
I take that. You know what I
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mean. So by all means,
talk about your meds. Well, I
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take Trintalics, which I don't know. I've heard it's an antipsychotic. I've
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also heard as an antidepressing. It
could be used for both, but it
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was. It was helping, but
it wasn't helping enough, and so they
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put me on a bill if I
too and it made me emotionless and just
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this week my I've been noticing for
a while, Becky, at this is
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kind of goes along with what your
mom's going through. My Dad, my
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dad's mental stay has gone down and
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get weeping now.
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And I live, I live with
my dad and he I have to
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do everything for him and it's hard. It's hard to be dealing with bipolar
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disorder, borderline personality disorder and also
had to be a care taker for an
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now the early person. So I
call my brother, and I've called my
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brother a few times this week and
just broke down crying because I don't I
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just don't know what to do and
that's not something I normally do, is
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cry. But it's been it's been
tough. Are you okay now? I
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don't mean like, are you okay
today? Yeah, I feel a feel
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okay today. I feel I feel
good talking about it. Yeah, it's
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weird when you hear two dudes talking
about it. Like even the way I
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just said that, are you okay
now? It almost sounds like are you
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done crying? Are you done?
Let you know? I didn't need that.
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I didn't hear that. We don't
sound like that now. We need
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to come like that. Okay,
good man. That that's rough and I
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have the same situation. My share
was going to be about also taking care
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of my dad, so I don't
want to trudge too much on that on
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yours, but I definitely feel the
pinch of being, quote unquote, the
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sick one in the family. But
I'm in the middle now. I'm the
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Middle Age one. I have old
parents now that need caring for and I
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also have kids now who still need
caring for and there's nobody here to care
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for me and they're there. Hasn't
been right. That's how I got to
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this place because nobody cared for me, and it's really troubling on many levels.
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Just physically. It's exhausting to try
to care for somebody when I'm exhausted
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myself due to depression or whatever's going
on that day. I never feel appreciated
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because of the borderline maybe, or
maybe because nobody really expresses the appreciation.
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It could be a little of both. The whole. You know, just
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because your paranoid doesn't mean people are
not following you. It's the same thing
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with borderline. Just because I have
borderline doesn't mean some people don't appreciate me.
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Doesn't mean some people don't actually hate
me. That I found people that
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hate me and that don't appreciate me, and it's not the borderline. So
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and that's also troubling too, because
the way we present ourselves, a lot
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of people just think, oh well, you're not sick, that's why you
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have to do all the work,
that's why you're doing the care take and
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you're not sick. And like Motherfucker, how do you know how I feel?
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Right it's that and just putting on
the John Suit, just trying to
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be me every day. That's fucking
exhausting, so much so I really feel
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for you. Dude. I just
and Youtube back. You have to deal
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with your parents that way. Where
I right? I wanted to share to
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my abilify. They have to give
it. Give it to me an injection
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I had about ten years ago.
I had gasser bypass surgery and I lost
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a hundred fifty pounds and so it's
been a struggle with meds because I don't,
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I don't, I don't absorb the
meds like I used to, like
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I should. The way they the
way they do, the way they used
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to do. The gas your bypass
surgery is they they make your stomach really
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small and also shorten your intestines,
and so that's how you absorb nutrients.
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So I'm bidermin deficient and I also
am med deficient. So my Med's don't
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work as well as they would on
a normal person. So they had to
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adjust my med so I take my
meds multiple times a day instead of once
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a day. So that's just a
little, you know, interesting tidbit of
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information. Yeah, it's another kick
in the ASS. Right, let me
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just that one more thing. For
people that don't have any kind of mental
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condition to realize that dude's got to
take meds all the time. It's like
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a clock. You got the little
pill box, you got all these things.
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Were like normal middle aged people.
We shouldn't have to be on eight
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hundred pills, but yet if you
want to stay functional, there's a whole
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regiment you got to go through.
It's ridiculous. What's the true relics?
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I've never heard of that. Is
that a different name? It's just got
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the brand name on the bottom on
the bottle. So I don't I don't
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know. I know one of the
person who takes it. I want to
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ask it my next group to that
sounds interesting. I think that's one of
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the newer ones, like the one
you're on. You're on vrail. Are
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Right Y, like, yeah,
that's one of the new our ones too.
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Are you still like it and still
on it? And I like it
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and everything? Where did they swapping
for Lamittel or something else you used to
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be on? I did. Used
to be on the MITTEL and I was
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not all of them for a while
at the same time, but then I
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recently got off the limittel. Think
on us. I don't feel like I
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was doing anything for me. Yeah, after a while I felt the same.
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Like most of the MED's eventually lose
their efficacy on on me. I
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don't know if they ever worked or
whatever, but yeah, it's not bad
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to change. I just do it
under a doctor's care. Yeah, actually,
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I just looked it up. Trint
Alex as is for. It's for
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it's a nat how to present.
Oh, that's why I don't well,
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that's weird. They maybe it's one
meant for Maatic people, because you know,
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they they rarely give antidepressant straight up, any depressants to bipolar because they
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say, well, I'm on that. Yeah, I'm on lithium to for
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looking intabilify. That's a whole other
set of work right there too. Yeah,
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there's a lot of monitoring that goes
involved with that. Right, you
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have to. You have to worry
about your thyroid. This is the thing,
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you know, I was watching they
I live a lot in downtown areas,
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tons of homeless people and I see
how hard it is for them to
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be homeless, how much work they
put out to be homeless, and the
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perception is homeless or lazy. But
Man, these people go through so much
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work, physical labor, just to
be homeless. Dragging your bags around everywhere
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all day, get kicked out,
sleeping on hard cement, Dott a diet.
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Well, it's kind of the same
way when you're sick. Like when
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people, when we have depression or
something, people think, Oh, you
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just depressed, you just lay around
all day. Well, Snow, listen
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to all the work we have to
do. There's so much work involved right
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being sick, with scheduling appointments and
fighting the bureaucracy and getting payments over to
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their and then, and then the
pills. Oh, and then the pharmacy.
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Are they're out of it, are
they? Don't? You know they
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don't support that pill anymore or things. It's always changing. You never have
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any peace, or I never did. It's well, you talk about taking
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taking pills multiple times of day.
I actually have an APP on my phone
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that shoo shoots me a reminder.
It's kind of annoying actually, but it
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gives me a reminder every time I
have to take my medicine. Does it
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give you like a little gold coin? Che like a game? I should
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fill take it should game a five
pill taking. I mean, if that's
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the will, people love Games.
Yeah, so wouldn't hurt if you got
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little coins for it, right Hey, dude, you play fucking scrabble or
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anything like that? Do you play
words with friends? I did, but
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I felt real dumb. So Wolf
all right, because becky and I are
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always add it over there. Just
probably beat me at most of the time
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to buy see one. Like every
game will get one lucky word. That's
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all it takes is one lucky word
and that's all it takes with anybody.
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But I'm not always the one who
gets the lucky word. I'm probably the
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least competitive person you you'll meet.
Like, I'd rather as Ather. What's
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your sign, dude? When you're
born, I'm a verger. Well,
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yes, okay, I see that. He'll do it. I'm an aries.
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I'm like, I can't not compete. I'm like, just keep going
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and Leah. So that explains it. Yeah, Leo's the same way.
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All My best friends are Leo's and
my son's Leio. My son was born
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on my wife's birthday, so my
wife was a Leo when I was married.
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Leo's. See, the reason I
get along with Leo's is because areas
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are one of the few signs that
can tolerate Leo's. But their fight the
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fire sign to right during first signs. Yeah, we're just more nuts,
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but in Leo's we everyone lets Leos
think they're in charge of everything, and
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Leo's are happy with that because they
actually think they're in charge of everything and
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the rest of the world's like that's
just a Leo. Just let him think
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they're in charge of everything. He
thinks this, ha ha, that's funny.
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Now I mean literally. I mean
best friend in high school, best
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friend now, ex wife and first
son. That's four Leos surrounded by him.
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Oh, my best friend that I
grew up with like in my set,
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in my s too, he was
a Leo also. Yeah, it
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was amazing how many Leo's that are
just surrounded with them. It's because they're
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awesome. Well, it's it's because
nobody else will hang out with them.
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That's what hey, but nobody else
will hang out with me either. So
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that's kind of the thing. There's
the only thing worse than Leo's like the
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areas that's like fuck that guy.
Whatever. Okay, I'm going to share
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to before get we get too long
here. Okay, did you get enough
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out, Brian? Yeah, so, and then the moderator comes around back
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to me and like okay, John, so all right. Well, I
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had this issue again with my dad, and I don't say again with my
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dad. Don't have like a lot
of issues with him, but, like
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like Brian and Becky, Dad mom
isss you. So my dad has been
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care taking this property up at Lake
Tahoe for years. Nice property is beautiful,
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right on the lakes. Anytime I
want to go get away from the
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city, I go there. It's
free. I love it and he loves
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it. He's a retired x cop, x vet kind of Guy Living on
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a fixed income. Well, he
loves it there. And the guy he
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care takes from his super old,
like in his nine s and about to
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die. So, my dad,
you got to figure out something to do.
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You can't just wait until life happens
to you. Should be proactive and
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make a plan, because he's going
to die, they're going to sell the
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property and you're going to have to
move. And his whole thing was like,
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oh no, maybe they'll keep me
on as a caretaker and at it.
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I'm like, Dude, they're not
even going to keep the property like
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this. If somebody buys this is
going to get flattened and they're going to
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build a condos here. Get Real, like you're older than me, you
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should know this. If how do
I know it and you don't? Anyway,
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he ignores it. Sure enough,
they sell the property. He's got
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a move by the end of September. That this just happened this week right,
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like told you. So fortunately,
I had him come to the city
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a couple weeks back and show them
I have a spare bedroom. I'm like,
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you can stay here, I run
the hotel. I could hook you
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up with a with the room.
You know, it's like a hotel you
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can live in. So I can
actually hook him up whatever. He's like,
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Nah, I can't. Citi's not
really for me, as I get
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it, because it's fucking grimy.
You know, he lives in a beautiful,
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Pristine Lake in the forest and I
offered him an apartment near Satan's asshole.
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It's just totally different worlds, I
get it. HMM, so he
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doesn't like this idea. Now he's
getting kicked out. So I get this
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long you know, those emails from
your parents are like super long paragraphs,
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about five of them stacked up.
Email like Oh, here it is,
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here's the email, and it's so
he's basically running down his plans. Well,
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he's going to get rid of some
stuff and go store some stuff there,
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and then he used this really bizarre
term. Then I may go mobile,
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right. HMM. All right,
so I don't know what going mobile
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to you means, because I have
different terms, like couch surfing. To
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me would be staying at a friend's
house and then maybe in another house or
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whatever it's. ME, going mobile
means living in your car. What do
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you think? Maybe where our V
or something like that? That's what I
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was thinking, an RV, right. But since he doesn't have any of
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those things, I'm like how,
what is this mean? But you know
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what he does have is he has
my fucking suburban up there and Tahoe,
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because I don't park it in San
Francisco because it's three hundred fifty dollars a
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month to park. So I don't
need it. I ride the subway,
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in the bus, in the lift
and everything. I keep my suburban up
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until home. In this email he's
talking about selling his old beat up pickup
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truck and going mobile and and I'm
becoming incensed as I'm reading this email.
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Unlike, am I overreacting, or
is this fucking guy talking about taking my
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new truck? I just bought and
I'm OCD. I don't like anything in
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my truck. I like it clean. I don't want I don't even want
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anything in the glove compartment. I
just fucking super OCD. I'm like,
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I even took all the badges off
the truck. It just simple, right
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clean. I don't want to buy
fucking in it. I want to buy
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fucking living in it. Nothing like
that. And when I get this email,
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it's under my skin now. I'm
like, just fucking guy assuming he's
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just going to take my truck and
go live in it. Like, what
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the fuck is this? So I'm
just wondering if my feelings are valleys and,
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if so, how much, or
if you would react differently. I
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would, you know, I think
that I would probably be, maybe not
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quite as incensed, but perturbed if
somebody just assume that you're going to take
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my stuff and he's it for their
own devices. You know what I mean?
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Right? That, I can see, you know, I can see
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the point in there. And again
the dynamic. Remember, I'm the sick
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one. I'm like, people should
be helping me, and now I've saved
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the money. took me fucking forever
to because I don't buy things on cred
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I saved like thousands and thousands of
dollars and bought the truck out right.
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And what? I'm just going to
let it sit there and he's going to
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deteriorate it by living in it.
Would you have done anything differently, Brian,
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or like? How would you respond? Um, I think that I
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would say something to him, offer
to sell it to him. Just say,
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Dad, you know, the title
is in my name. If you
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want to buy it from me,
we can transfer the title. I have
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a problem with being passive aggressive,
right, and so I would I would
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try to make a conscious effort not
to be passive aggressive. Okay, here,
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well, I'll tell you how I
reacted and we'll see if it was
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right. Because, yeah, it
I don't know. I'm tired of being
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taken advantage of. I'm over it. I'm like past that chapter of my
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life. So I just send him
a quick email, because he can.
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He conveyed this to me in an
email, so I always feel it's fair
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just to communicate in the same medium
back. You know what I mean,
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m so I just send him a
quick email, I said, because he
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outlined his plans and I said that's
all great, period let's not make any
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assumptions about my truck. I like
it empty and clean. It's not for
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living in period. That's it.
Sent them the email. Seem reasonable?
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Yes, I think so. It
turned out to be reasonable. Apparently he
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send it back. Oh Yeah,
I understand about your truck. That's fine,
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I didn't plan on living in it. So maybe you know. Maybe
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he thinks mobile is couch surfing.
Maybe his I'm going mobile is couch surfing.
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Maybe we just use different words.
So I just want to share that.
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Like, even though I kind of
feel like I overreacted, it was
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only in my head. The overreaction
was in my head. The part that
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eventually came out filtered turned out to
be the right words. Like I said,
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don't be passive aggressive. Just address
it directly and I did the best
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I couldn't worked out okay, so
we'll see. I'm not sure what to
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do with favor now. Maybe maybe
his idea of going mobile is to move
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into a mobile home. Yeah,
well, he's waiting for some vet housing
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to open up up there in the
mountains where he lives, and that he
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has options. They're just not he's
not sure of the time frame. God,
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I don't think I would have wanted
to lead. Yeah, it's there's
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no work there. I'm a I'd
like to do things. I like to
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engage with people and work on projects
and there's nothing to do. You want
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build the camp fire? Okay,
done, that's yeah, that's the project.
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It's pretty funny. Yeah, but
I guess is that the presumptuousness of
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or the way he said it?
I don't know. Anyway. So that
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was that. That was my big
thing of the week. I had other
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ones, but I'm over it.
I was the ones that with the family,
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always hit me the hardest and the
closest ecent. It really. Yeah,
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so sensitive about that stuff, because
the thing is, like, I
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know he doesn't have any extra money. If I offered to sell it to
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him, he couldn't. Baybe there's
no money for he can't buy it from
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me. The Best I could offer
to do is like sell it and give
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him some money. Just straight up
here, have some money, go buy
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what you can with that money,
and I'm going to buy something to use
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in the city or whatever. Bright
and then I'm like, well, why
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should I do that? I don't
know. And then I started thinking,
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Oh, I don't even need a
truck. anyways, when I just sell
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it and buy a Badass computer and
some more podcasting gear. So I mean,
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I can buy a lot of stuff, but I like yeah, and
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then my dad's a whole. No, no, we need the truck.
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And am I? Who is we, motherfucker? You're up there driving it
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around. I'm never in it.
But I don't want to be a dad.
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That's what it all just all gets
down to. I just don't want
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to be Dick. He's like,
it's my dad's like, well, why
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don't you help you dad? I'm
like, I'm helping him as much as
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I can. I gave him a
nice truck to use over the winter time,
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and that a dad. But just
just because you give somebody something doesn't
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mean that they can keep taking and
I felt like it was leaning towards that.
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Situation. is becoming a slippery slope
and I'm glad I nipped it in
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the bud succinctly and without blown a
fuse too much. Yeah, anyway.
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So that is how a group works, and thanks for Becky and Brian.
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Thanks you guys for making it seem
real and sharing your real things. Thank
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you. Yeah, here are hosting
and everything, and so remember, for
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anybody listening still to the days of
podcasting, go search out that B word.
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It's a podcast with Becky from Ohio. Let's me, yeah, talking
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about borderline personality disorder and bipolar disorder
and all of the other connective tissues,
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and shortly we'll hear from Brian in
North Carolina when we get him on his
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own podcast as well. In the
meantime, you can meet up with all
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of us at bipolar PARTYCOM. Just
type that into your browser, you'll see
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a place to request a link and
then you can go download the slack software
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or APP or whatnot and hang out
with us. It's basically a safe place
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for us to share and commiserates and
you could see and you could see the
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misfits and action. Yeah, yeah, you can. You can hang out
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with all of us who feel like
we don't fit in with the rest of
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the world because of our borderline personality
disorder. But if you feel that way,
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then check it out. Maybe you
maybe you have a personality disorder and
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he just didn't know it. We're
happy to walk you through those things and
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welcome you aboard to your newfound knowledge. All right, guys. Well,
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have an awesome Saturday. I appreciate
your time. From San Francisco, I'm
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Johnny Emotions and we will see you
next time. Styles on I cheese follow.
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