Nov. 23, 2021

Featuring NFT Artist "MaNiC//" on bipolar disorder and digital artistry


John talks to Florida-based NFT artist MaNiC// about his journey from hospitalization for bipolar disorder to successful digital artist.

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Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:07.120 Hey friends, welcome back. I'm John. This is live from Emo Dojo. 2 00:00:07.870 --> 00:00:13.429 Today we have an especially awesome guest, somebody I heard on twitter spaces. 3 00:00:13.669 --> 00:00:15.589 You know, a lot of times, if you want to get known 4 00:00:15.630 --> 00:00:18.429 as an artist, you kind of have to raise your voice, and in 5 00:00:18.510 --> 00:00:22.780 this case he spoke up. He raised his hand to speak in a twitter 6 00:00:22.820 --> 00:00:27.140 space as I was listening to and immediately I'm like, Oh yeah, that 7 00:00:27.219 --> 00:00:30.859 guy should be on the podcast. So he goes by the artist handle of 8 00:00:30.980 --> 00:00:34.460 manic and you can see they're in the title of the episode. How he 9 00:00:34.700 --> 00:00:40.409 styleizes that really cool. He's got a wild story, maybe familiar to some 10 00:00:40.570 --> 00:00:45.770 of you, especially those of you who have experienced in mental hospitals and that 11 00:00:45.890 --> 00:00:49.170 sort of thing, and it's really exciting. So we're going to talk about 12 00:00:49.250 --> 00:00:55.399 his journey from, you know, his initial diagnosis all the way till today 13 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.320 and what he's working on and into the future with digital art and NFT's in 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.960 that space. So it's super cool. I'm glad you made it. Sit 15 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:19.739 back and relax. This is live from Emo Dojo. Might be kind of 16 00:01:19.780 --> 00:01:25.780 overwhelming to some, but I think you empathize a lot because you have similar 17 00:01:25.819 --> 00:01:26.980 conditions to what we have. How much do you want to talk about that? 18 00:01:27.019 --> 00:01:30.140 Do how far do you want to tell? I'm I'm I'm down to 19 00:01:30.299 --> 00:01:38.730 just talk, man like. I'm just trying to really make it. I'm 20 00:01:38.810 --> 00:01:42.769 trying to make it. Yeah, like totally, and I understand. To 21 00:01:42.890 --> 00:01:49.079 be able to make it in anywhere, you have to put yourself out there. 22 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:52.840 That's right. Unless you know, then you're no one's gonna know about 23 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.640 you unless they happened to discover you, and Yep, they share it, 24 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:59.840 but how it Bo that's rare. You gotta put yourself out there and just 25 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.750 tell your story, be real, and then you know, because I heard 26 00:02:04.829 --> 00:02:07.949 that. Really it's old. People usually buy into like stories. Yep, 27 00:02:08.870 --> 00:02:15.900 my wife's and was in the marketing and I told her my story and she 28 00:02:15.060 --> 00:02:23.300 was like blown away because it's quite the story, and she's like that's that's 29 00:02:23.340 --> 00:02:27.099 what you need to tell right. It's remarkable. That's like you know, 30 00:02:27.219 --> 00:02:30.569 that's your brand, that's you, and people, Yep, will buy into 31 00:02:30.610 --> 00:02:32.569 that. Yeah, it's so true, dude, especially with people like like 32 00:02:32.729 --> 00:02:36.289 us. I assume you just had a wild childhood and all kind of stuff. 33 00:02:36.289 --> 00:02:37.810 Will get to that in a minute, because I really want to hear 34 00:02:37.849 --> 00:02:42.729 that part like how you became you, but man as if you, if 35 00:02:42.810 --> 00:02:45.039 you're raise that way and you kind of fucked up in the head. A 36 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:49.400 lot of times we'RE STILL TRAINED BY SOCIETY TO FIT into that society. So 37 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.800 you just go in this you live in this conflicted life for many, many 38 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.199 years until you realize like Oh, I've got to speak up, otherwise I'll 39 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.469 just get shut to the wall. And you see what happens to people that 40 00:02:59.949 --> 00:03:04.590 just don't speak up. They end up dead or in hospitals, things like 41 00:03:04.710 --> 00:03:07.629 that. So good for you on speaking up. So how did you come 42 00:03:07.789 --> 00:03:12.629 to adopt the named Manic, for example? Look, are you going to 43 00:03:12.669 --> 00:03:15.659 call you that for sure, because I've been like peeping on your dead that's 44 00:03:15.699 --> 00:03:20.539 Um. Yeah, my real name is cool, cool, um, but 45 00:03:21.300 --> 00:03:27.490 since being in this whole and FT space, I wanted to have a name. 46 00:03:27.530 --> 00:03:31.889 Yeah, and the name Manic really fits me well. Right, right, 47 00:03:32.250 --> 00:03:36.009 I am like literally I have, you know, have bipolar, obviously, 48 00:03:36.650 --> 00:03:39.930 and I have it where I'm like mostly manic. Yeah, same, 49 00:03:40.050 --> 00:03:46.479 which is to me it's better than having the depression part, a hundred percent. 50 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:52.199 That's that's really rough. So yeah, like I'm at, I'm like 51 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.310 a lot of times mannic and I'm on medicine and everything. It's just still 52 00:03:55.389 --> 00:03:59.229 breaks through. So, Yep, that's where I was like, all right, 53 00:03:59.270 --> 00:04:02.110 well, manic. I like the way it sounds like the name and 54 00:04:02.189 --> 00:04:06.870 it describes, describe as like my personality and you know, yeah, I 55 00:04:08.030 --> 00:04:11.460 love it, love it. I have a marketing background too, so I'm 56 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:15.219 into words, the shapes of letters, the whole thing. I fucking Love 57 00:04:15.340 --> 00:04:17.860 Manic. Thank you, man. Yeah, and I like and when I 58 00:04:17.899 --> 00:04:20.899 don't, you probably seen it on my twitter and the way I did it 59 00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:24.769 was, is, with the capital m lower case, a capital. Oh 60 00:04:24.769 --> 00:04:30.250 Yeah, Lord, I see, and I is added those like forward slashes 61 00:04:30.290 --> 00:04:32.769 there ord. Yeah, and I was like that's yes, it's my artistic 62 00:04:32.850 --> 00:04:35.370 mind. I was like, okay, yeah, can't be just the word 63 00:04:35.410 --> 00:04:39.959 by itself, can't be common upper case. The rest lower case, do 64 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.360 some weird shit, and who would have thought to put the slashes? So 65 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.519 actually, when I created the file for this particular broadcast, I copied and 66 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.439 paste it directly from your twitter accounts. I got it right because as an 67 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.800 artist, a lot of times that's all you have in the beginning is some 68 00:04:53.029 --> 00:04:57.550 differentiating factor that gets people to say, Oh, this isn't the mannic I'm 69 00:04:57.550 --> 00:05:00.189 used to. This is something new or, you know, whatever your name 70 00:05:00.189 --> 00:05:02.670 happens to be. So that's pretty awesome and I like to tell people listening 71 00:05:02.750 --> 00:05:08.100 right up front. So, man, it's got a couple of different collections 72 00:05:08.139 --> 00:05:12.579 on Opensee, which is the market place for digital artwork called NFTS. Can 73 00:05:12.620 --> 00:05:15.860 you do you operate two or did I just happen to find one and then 74 00:05:15.899 --> 00:05:17.620 you change the name? Since I clicked it last because the link on your 75 00:05:17.660 --> 00:05:23.209 twitter by I went to abstract visions last night and it goes to something else 76 00:05:23.329 --> 00:05:30.370 today on guard. Yeah, seventy seven. Yeah, like being that I 77 00:05:30.529 --> 00:05:35.480 have like my creative mind, I'm always creating, and so it's really hard 78 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:40.959 for me to like focus on like one collection. And yet, you know, 79 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.160 so I like and you know, I know like for the most part 80 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.110 in Nft it's important to have collections, you know, and try to keep 81 00:05:51.149 --> 00:05:56.589 things organize. It's just harder for me way. So I had this I 82 00:05:56.670 --> 00:06:01.110 started this new auction and it's going to be seventy seven pieces. Nice, 83 00:06:01.189 --> 00:06:08.019 just to keep it small and more focused for now, right. But I 84 00:06:08.339 --> 00:06:14.420 mean I have the abstract visions one and then I have sculpts by manic dope. 85 00:06:15.740 --> 00:06:16.620 I don't know if you've seen that. I have not seen that one. 86 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:18.290 I have a lot. I have a lot of stuff. Yeah, 87 00:06:19.129 --> 00:06:26.290 sculpted by Mannic is, I do. I use blender. I taught myself. 88 00:06:26.449 --> 00:06:29.610 I'm blender Nice. You know the program yet ready? Yep, that's 89 00:06:29.730 --> 00:06:32.920 that's no joke doing so. It's no joke to teach yourself d software. 90 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:39.399 So, my God, yeah, it my wife. She I was literally 91 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.839 on the computer for hours and hours, tutor of the tutorial. Yep, 92 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.360 and it's figuring it out and for the most yeah, I mean you could 93 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.389 see my work. It's I named it sculpts by Manic. I love. 94 00:06:48.470 --> 00:06:51.990 I had like those and then I have I have just a mix of stuff. 95 00:06:53.589 --> 00:06:58.470 So, but with the avant garde. I'm going to make that seventy 96 00:06:58.509 --> 00:07:01.579 seven pieces. Right now I have twenty one pieces up, but I love 97 00:07:01.660 --> 00:07:04.180 it. Based when people get to know me and discover my art, Yep, 98 00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:09.259 they'll discover I've just so much. And the same I was just talking 99 00:07:09.339 --> 00:07:13.180 to a real life artist friend of mine last night and our biggest thing we 100 00:07:13.300 --> 00:07:16.129 both have, well, I have bipolar, we both have Adhd, and 101 00:07:16.250 --> 00:07:17.889 the whole thing is like, well, fuck, how do we get all 102 00:07:17.930 --> 00:07:23.050 this shit organized the way the market expects it compared to how my brain wants 103 00:07:23.129 --> 00:07:26.050 to display it? Because I'm like wait, I'm a painter, I'm a 104 00:07:26.129 --> 00:07:29.329 fucking drummer. I want to go record some mpegs and just put up drum 105 00:07:29.370 --> 00:07:30.240 beats. I'm like God, I need a new drum. I need a 106 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:34.000 fucking account, a collection for that. And then you start running into gas 107 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:36.360 fees and left and right and like well, shit, I can't have all 108 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:40.959 the fucking collections. I need to get started. So then the weird process 109 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.199 of having to shoot. I tell her it's like you have to take your 110 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.670 puppies out behind the shed and shoot the extra ones in the head, and 111 00:07:46.790 --> 00:07:49.149 she's all know, and I'm like no, you got to pick one project. 112 00:07:49.750 --> 00:07:53.230 But that's just kind of the conversations we have. But I can't and 113 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:57.189 she can't like like I got them all planned out and then I need to 114 00:07:57.269 --> 00:08:00.459 jump from one each week, because some weeks I'll just get bored of photography, 115 00:08:00.620 --> 00:08:03.139 a board of painting or whatever. So it's nice to have it. 116 00:08:03.259 --> 00:08:07.860 So having any kind of you know, let's call it chaos going under our 117 00:08:07.899 --> 00:08:11.540 head. It makes it both extra important to organize but also doubly hard. 118 00:08:13.089 --> 00:08:16.810 So now I appreciate that you got things sorted out to like that. Yes, 119 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:20.449 so the newest thing is the avant garde one and it's going to avant 120 00:08:20.490 --> 00:08:24.970 guard seventy seven. It's going to be seventy seven pieces, and that's what 121 00:08:24.050 --> 00:08:28.560 I'm working on right now. And so, yeah, that's the same time, 122 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.000 whenever I can, I'm still working on teaching myself the D art, 123 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:39.039 which I'm really, really interested in, and then it's going to be like 124 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.070 eventually more into the animation part of a really, when I first got into 125 00:08:43.149 --> 00:08:50.750 NFT's I stumbled across people. Right, that's sixty nine million dollars sail. 126 00:08:50.870 --> 00:08:56.580 Yeah, and like I was into like making money online and different ways to 127 00:08:56.620 --> 00:09:00.980 make money online, and so I just heard about that and when I heard 128 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:05.220 about that I was like wow, like seriously, right, yeah, like 129 00:09:05.340 --> 00:09:09.059 a Jpeg, like I had to, you know, do some graphically, 130 00:09:09.100 --> 00:09:13.009 I told myself, graphic design, because I do print on demand, you 131 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:16.049 know, for like Oh, yeah, so art. Sure, yeah, 132 00:09:16.090 --> 00:09:20.330 I just products. I'm on a I am on a platform I Amazon called 133 00:09:20.409 --> 00:09:24.250 merged by Amazon. Nice. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, 134 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.120 so I have some success with that, but I've always been researching how to 135 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.279 make money online. I even stumble across Bitcoin, like way back, like 136 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.519 I think I got into it like in the beginning. Sweet, good for 137 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.309 you, I just didn't buy enough. You know who wouldn't it? Would 138 00:09:39.350 --> 00:09:41.870 have known? Yeah, yeah, you had your bets, but sometimes, 139 00:09:41.909 --> 00:09:43.070 like damn, I wish I would have hedged a lot higher on that bet. 140 00:09:43.789 --> 00:09:46.710 But good for you for knowing, like, because that's that takes a 141 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:50.870 real visionary to accept a new entire new constructs. It's like saying, Hey, 142 00:09:50.870 --> 00:09:54.940 dude, give me your gold and I'm going to give you this piece 143 00:09:54.980 --> 00:09:58.659 of paper. It's no, it's really worth your gold, and you're like, 144 00:09:58.700 --> 00:10:00.659 the fuck off, I'm keeping my gold. And it's the same way. 145 00:10:00.659 --> 00:10:03.820 You have to like suspend belief to think that digital money will be the 146 00:10:03.899 --> 00:10:07.090 future. And once you do, though, it's clear that it's nothing. 147 00:10:07.129 --> 00:10:11.529 Will else will be the future. It's only crypto in the future. Yeah, 148 00:10:11.649 --> 00:10:15.250 and so, like, yeah, when I get into something I like, 149 00:10:15.409 --> 00:10:18.490 I go all in and I want to be the best at it and 150 00:10:18.649 --> 00:10:22.639 know all about it. But I tend with the bipolar sometimes. On mine 151 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.000 wants to hop to this and that and this and that, but I'm really 152 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.759 starting to realize I got to just stay focused and not spread myself too thin, 153 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.509 you know, maybe getting to one, two three things and just be 154 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:41.309 like become like an expert in those areas. Yeah, or at least become 155 00:10:41.389 --> 00:10:43.789 known for that, you know, as your voice or your style as an 156 00:10:43.830 --> 00:10:46.470 artist. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Tell me how 157 00:10:46.590 --> 00:10:52.059 you became, how it came to your knowledge that you have something wrong with 158 00:10:52.179 --> 00:10:54.980 your head, with your mind, like how long, how many years ago 159 00:10:56.019 --> 00:11:01.500 back did you find out? Okay, so I grew up in long on 160 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:07.570 New York up until I was fifteen years old and my family decided it was 161 00:11:07.889 --> 00:11:13.850 it was good. My grandparents moved south Florida and New York was getting more 162 00:11:13.850 --> 00:11:18.720 expensive, so my grandparents were like, come to Florida, it's cheaper here 163 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:24.279 and beautiful all that. So I basically had to leave, like my girlfriend 164 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.799 at the time, my friends, which was, of course, you know, 165 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.200 upsetting, shocking. Yes, traumatic. After Florida and we're settling in, 166 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.909 I was not happy, and so I was in a depression, Yep, 167 00:11:35.389 --> 00:11:39.309 and I was like wanted to sleep all the time, have my shades 168 00:11:39.389 --> 00:11:43.470 down and you know, yeah, Cave live in. Yeah, and then 169 00:11:43.549 --> 00:11:48.659 all of a sudden it went from really down to like really up. Yeah, 170 00:11:48.700 --> 00:11:54.419 I didn't really catch it, HMM, but I a neighbor of hours 171 00:11:56.259 --> 00:12:01.490 her daughter has had on bipolar okay, and was like I think your son 172 00:12:01.730 --> 00:12:03.570 like has something. I think you need to take them to, you know, 173 00:12:03.690 --> 00:12:07.330 the hospital and you know, have them evaluated. Yeah, because I 174 00:12:07.490 --> 00:12:11.129 was like thinking, like I was thinking things that weren't true, like my 175 00:12:11.250 --> 00:12:15.759 self esteem was like Oh yeah, yeah, you know, like we're sure 176 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.000 gone through that fasture. So it is wild. Yeah, and so I 177 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:24.559 was brought to this mental hospital in West Palm Beach and, yeah, I 178 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.639 went into a fullblown manic episode and I was thinking these things that weren't real, 179 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.669 like I had special powers and yeah, all that kind. was in 180 00:12:33.710 --> 00:12:41.070 a fullblown manic episode. And like they originally diagnosed me with schizophrenia. Yeah, 181 00:12:41.149 --> 00:12:43.620 that happens to sometimes, for sure, especially when you have an a 182 00:12:43.659 --> 00:12:48.299 manic episode in the doctor doesn't know that a true manic episode looks very much 183 00:12:48.379 --> 00:12:52.340 like schizophrenia. Yeah, and skiso effective, they said, Yep, and 184 00:12:54.340 --> 00:12:56.659 so I was in there for a few weeks and then they were like okay, 185 00:12:56.740 --> 00:13:03.970 well, he had his diagnosis. Is bipolarum. So I got out 186 00:13:03.970 --> 00:13:13.000 of there and from sixteen years old up until twenty something years old, I 187 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:22.360 was in and out of mental hospitals and drug rehabs and, you know, 188 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.679 it was a really just tough time. Like it was like a revolving door, 189 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:30.629 like, yes, mental hospital, like they I like was growing up 190 00:13:30.669 --> 00:13:33.350 there. I was like in and out as they knew your name, they 191 00:13:33.350 --> 00:13:35.149 knew mine, they knew money. They really, as you know, man 192 00:13:35.269 --> 00:13:39.110 its back. Yeah, I mean they just and it's common, and I 193 00:13:39.149 --> 00:13:43.100 would see people that I saw before and, yeah, it's just a revolving 194 00:13:43.299 --> 00:13:50.259 door. And then when I was like, I don't even know, nineteen 195 00:13:50.299 --> 00:13:56.730 or something like that, I was that was doing ecstasy and coke, not 196 00:13:56.970 --> 00:14:01.649 sleeping. Yeah, man, cocaine for a bipolar person is like heaven and 197 00:14:01.850 --> 00:14:05.889 Hell. Yeah, I mean for like ten minutes it's like heaven. Yeah, 198 00:14:05.889 --> 00:14:07.450 and I mean if you're when you're already manic, like you're already up. 199 00:14:07.529 --> 00:14:13.919 Yeah, anyway, so, like ecstasy, coke, no sleep, 200 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:20.279 and I was I remember having like my heart was like racing and no sleep. 201 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:26.549 I came home and my grandmother took me to the emergency room and I 202 00:14:26.629 --> 00:14:31.509 thought I died. Well, WHOA. I thought I had died and I 203 00:14:31.710 --> 00:14:35.549 was like, when they took me to the emergency hospital, I thought I 204 00:14:35.590 --> 00:14:41.299 was getting transported to purgatory. Oh, Whoa, and I had this whole 205 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:45.100 thing in my mind and I was telling my family that I'm I'm dead, 206 00:14:45.460 --> 00:14:50.379 like that's mild. Yeah, yeah, this whole crazy thing. So they 207 00:14:50.460 --> 00:14:56.690 brought me to this hospital and I was in there for like like the Max 208 00:14:56.809 --> 00:15:01.009 time you're allowed to be in the in impatient hospital. I was there like 209 00:15:01.169 --> 00:15:03.090 three months. Holy Moli Dude, that's a lot. Yeah, and I 210 00:15:03.210 --> 00:15:07.720 was in there three months and like they couldn't stabilize me. I was in 211 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:13.639 my own land and and then they were like, well, we can't keep 212 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.919 him here much longer, so we have to put him in the State Hospital. 213 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.509 This is what they told my family. Yeah, and so, yeah, 214 00:15:22.549 --> 00:15:26.110 I was brought to Pember Pine, the State Hospital in Miami, and 215 00:15:26.629 --> 00:15:31.870 I was there in a place that was not fun. Yeah, because when 216 00:15:31.909 --> 00:15:37.340 you're right state hospital, you are among the the craziest of crazies, for 217 00:15:37.379 --> 00:15:41.820 lack of the I mean get it's a crude term, but yeah, getting 218 00:15:41.899 --> 00:15:46.340 around like like drooling and, yeah, attacking you, attacking staff. Yep, 219 00:15:46.539 --> 00:15:50.169 super medicated. People just zombied out on downs and get lobbies and stuff. 220 00:15:50.169 --> 00:15:54.250 Yeah, and that was me too. They had me so medicated, 221 00:15:54.570 --> 00:16:00.009 gained so much weight, I was literally sitting around drooling. But it like, 222 00:16:00.610 --> 00:16:03.250 but I always was like I would draw. You know, we're still 223 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:07.960 you inside. I was still be inside with draw. I would even like 224 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.440 write raps, you know, nice poetry. Yeah, it was just living 225 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.000 hell in there. And flip out. You end up in the pink room, 226 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.669 right, you know, they lock you in the room. And so 227 00:16:18.830 --> 00:16:25.309 I was in there for seven months until they finally tried this last resort medication 228 00:16:25.549 --> 00:16:32.830 called Clasaro, and that snap me out of stopping back into reality. Yeah, 229 00:16:32.830 --> 00:16:34.419 Wow, what is that? What Yah is there? Does that drug 230 00:16:34.460 --> 00:16:37.899 have a different name? Is it like I have a brand name. It's 231 00:16:37.940 --> 00:16:41.460 called Colazar. Real hell to check it out. That sounds awesome. I'm 232 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:45.100 sure a lot of our listener's that's that's like the last resort medication. And 233 00:16:47.490 --> 00:16:51.250 Yeah, it's like it will make you gain tons of weight and literally be 234 00:16:51.330 --> 00:16:53.730 drooling. So they got me. They got me that and too bad to 235 00:16:53.769 --> 00:16:56.970 get back into reality. And then they got me on Lamichtel. You have 236 00:16:57.049 --> 00:17:02.759 taken limis? Yeah, yeah, and so I've been on that like years 237 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:10.559 and I have been hospitalized for years and there's been some close you know, 238 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:15.119 some close calls for sure. Yeah, you seem really selfaware, though, 239 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.069 like like you could probably vary a ways that it's coming, like if a 240 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:19.990 depression wave is coming, you could probably tell and you probably know how to 241 00:17:21.430 --> 00:17:25.029 hunker down or mania is upon you. You kind of know the rules. 242 00:17:25.069 --> 00:17:27.069 You know, hide the guy, hide the credit cards or that kind of 243 00:17:27.109 --> 00:17:30.460 stuff. Yeah, with the mania I just got, I start realizing like 244 00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:33.779 I really have to make sure I get sleep. That's yeah, yeah, 245 00:17:34.579 --> 00:17:41.140 and well, when I'm in these creative mindsets and when you're in the NFT 246 00:17:41.420 --> 00:17:45.250 space, my God, which never sleeps, obviously. Yeah, even if 247 00:17:45.329 --> 00:17:49.049 you don't have some form of mental illness like you, you might get one, 248 00:17:49.609 --> 00:17:53.490 you might start getting it, because it's is it's so fast paced. 249 00:17:53.730 --> 00:17:56.329 Overwhelmed at first, like I had to pull back to dudecus. I got 250 00:17:56.410 --> 00:17:59.759 into it like two months ago. I just I don't know, I found 251 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:00.640 some mud and said hey, let's check this out, and we just dove 252 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.319 in. Within about a month I felt like I was on acid. Every 253 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:10.240 day I'm like Whoa, and having experience with, you know, medication and 254 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:11.720 support groups and therapy. I'm like, this is not healthy. I have 255 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.750 to figure out why it's not healthy, why it's triggering me this way. 256 00:18:15.269 --> 00:18:19.150 So if anybody's listening and you have any kind of mental illness or disorder and 257 00:18:19.230 --> 00:18:23.789 you're getting into NFT's just there's like three different nfts in my mind. There 258 00:18:23.829 --> 00:18:29.859 are the multilevel marketing folks, there's those, you know, high priced schemes 259 00:18:29.900 --> 00:18:33.940 going on, there are people that are building legitimate communities as best as they 260 00:18:33.980 --> 00:18:37.380 can, and then there are folks that are straight up artist like. Ah. 261 00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:41.420 So I always find myself, I like to be in that category, 262 00:18:41.690 --> 00:18:44.930 like I'm there for the art, for locking down copyrights into the future. 263 00:18:45.490 --> 00:18:48.009 Anything else I'm not that concerned about. I used to be a few weeks 264 00:18:48.009 --> 00:18:52.130 ago, and that's what was driving me crazy. I felt like the rocket 265 00:18:52.210 --> 00:18:55.250 ships leaving and I'm not on it. I've got to get on the rocket 266 00:18:55.329 --> 00:18:57.160 ship. But now I've taken a step back and realize, oh wait, 267 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:02.920 my normal life was cool three months ago before I discovered nfts. So just 268 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.839 chill the fuck out, get back to your art and, you know, 269 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.750 don't let it get get carried away. Yeah, I mean it's definitely like 270 00:19:12.190 --> 00:19:15.390 emotional. Like, yeah, when I first got into I got into the 271 00:19:15.549 --> 00:19:21.190 NFT space, like I said, around the time people made that huge sell 272 00:19:22.430 --> 00:19:26.420 and I was dabbling with crypto and like it was like around the dope, 273 00:19:26.500 --> 00:19:30.660 the time dozed coin. Oh, yeah, hit five cents right then it 274 00:19:30.779 --> 00:19:33.819 like shot up to like almost seventy cents. Yeah, like that. And 275 00:19:33.900 --> 00:19:40.809 so I was like heavy into the Crypto for sure, and we call it 276 00:19:41.009 --> 00:19:45.609 I got some stellar looman's XCELM. Yeah, okay, yeah, and then 277 00:19:45.490 --> 00:19:48.569 I was in a discord for the first time and somebody from the discords, 278 00:19:48.609 --> 00:19:52.160 I mean, invite to clubhouse. There it is. Yeah, yeah, 279 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:57.960 yeah, and then in clubhouse I stumbled across and F t's Dot Tips Nice, 280 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.200 and that was like okay. So I would listen in these groups and 281 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:07.430 learn and learn, and I was like man, like you got to get 282 00:20:07.470 --> 00:20:11.589 this Meta mask wallet and so many things. Yeah, that, and I 283 00:20:11.750 --> 00:20:14.430 was like, Oh my God. So then I was on a mission to 284 00:20:14.509 --> 00:20:18.109 figure that out. Yeah, and I figured all that out and now I'm 285 00:20:18.150 --> 00:20:19.390 like now I know, like if somebody asked me how to get into it 286 00:20:19.430 --> 00:20:22.259 and do all this, I could tell them exactly what to do. Yeah, 287 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:26.539 that whole initially, like setting up the wallet. I didn't know about 288 00:20:26.539 --> 00:20:30.500 seed phrases and it was so ridiculous. I was helping my friends set up 289 00:20:30.539 --> 00:20:34.339 her ledger last night, right her hardware wallet, painting the ASS, and 290 00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:37.769 I just remember like Oh yeah, when I set mine up, I like 291 00:20:37.930 --> 00:20:40.890 had a whole hour set aside and I almost like told everyone in the room 292 00:20:40.930 --> 00:20:42.970 to shut up while I'm trying to focus. And I live alone, dude, 293 00:20:42.970 --> 00:20:45.089 I live alone. I'm like his shut up, I got a fucking 294 00:20:45.170 --> 00:20:48.849 do this. This might be my millions I'm like dealing with right here. 295 00:20:48.089 --> 00:20:52.599 So it has that weird like intensity when you start to address some of these 296 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.839 things. I guess like to your point, just find a loving soul that 297 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.640 already knows about it and have them try to walk you through each step, 298 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.759 because it's fine. There's no yeah, and I've been like since, I'm 299 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.349 so excited about him and telling like everybody, like I honestly like won't shut 300 00:21:07.349 --> 00:21:11.549 up about nft. I can't, dude, every time. And you're public 301 00:21:11.589 --> 00:21:14.109 right, you see something like that would be fucking good. NFT right there. 302 00:21:14.150 --> 00:21:17.789 You should be yes, yes, and my wife she's like, you 303 00:21:17.869 --> 00:21:21.779 know, I mean n ft land, and it's just like I really feel 304 00:21:21.819 --> 00:21:26.660 like I found my tribe. Yeah, I really feel like I found my 305 00:21:26.859 --> 00:21:30.420 tribe, which is amazing, and now I feel like I really know what 306 00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:33.970 I want to do. That's the most important thing. He yeah, I 307 00:21:34.089 --> 00:21:40.369 want to create art in this nft space and just grow and get my name 308 00:21:40.410 --> 00:21:45.049 out there. And I mean right, I guess be Amos and Nipt yeah, 309 00:21:45.130 --> 00:21:47.920 or known or like have a living known, like I don't need to 310 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.599 be like super famous, but yeah, just have like a little tenzero fans 311 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.160 on earth would be good for me if I had tenzero people that were like 312 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.960 fuck, yeah, that guy's awesome. That would yeah, yeah, you 313 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.599 know, yeah, like. And so, like I said, with Clubhouse, 314 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.670 I was listening and listening and I was creating art like a maniac, 315 00:22:03.829 --> 00:22:10.549 like, yeah, literally tea blender and just just making so much art and 316 00:22:10.789 --> 00:22:14.029 putting it up on open sea, like tons of art and art. I 317 00:22:14.150 --> 00:22:17.140 made some sales here and there, which is so cool, because I wasn't 318 00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:21.059 even promoting it Nice Um, but then I was like, okay, to 319 00:22:21.220 --> 00:22:26.019 really get my d really be successful, I also listened. I'm also big 320 00:22:26.059 --> 00:22:30.049 into like personal development. Yep, you know, I listened to like Jim 321 00:22:30.089 --> 00:22:32.329 Ron and Oh, yeah, all, this is one of my favorites. 322 00:22:32.849 --> 00:22:36.690 Yeah, and so, you know, in order to be successful, you 323 00:22:36.849 --> 00:22:40.809 have to like put yourself out there, even if you're on call. Like 324 00:22:40.849 --> 00:22:42.890 Jim Rowan, when he was first starting out, before he was doing public 325 00:22:42.930 --> 00:22:48.759 speaking, he was extremely nervous and, you know, scared to get up 326 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.920 on state and talk, but the more that he did it he became great. 327 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.480 He would then he was became a great public speaker. And so I 328 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.269 was like, all right, it can be denial day and I was like 329 00:23:00.710 --> 00:23:04.269 I'm just going to do it right and it and it. I forgot how 330 00:23:04.309 --> 00:23:08.230 it came up. It was just like the perfect time to like I got 331 00:23:08.269 --> 00:23:12.819 into them what he called the Crypto, I mean n FT called crypto pills. 332 00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:17.500 Okay, yeah, and like it was a discussion and stuff like that, 333 00:23:17.700 --> 00:23:22.220 and and somehow that my story came up nice and I told it and 334 00:23:22.259 --> 00:23:25.140 they were like, you got you know, you need to tell your story. 335 00:23:25.299 --> 00:23:26.930 He's like, they said, you have an amazing story and you could 336 00:23:26.930 --> 00:23:32.769 actually you could help people. That's right, yeah, you because there's people 337 00:23:32.849 --> 00:23:37.089 in hospitals right now that have access to podcast, for example, and if 338 00:23:37.130 --> 00:23:40.490 they stumbled up on a podcast of two people who are very similar to them, 339 00:23:40.529 --> 00:23:44.759 except a couple steps of evolution. Afterward, I fuck. I hope 340 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:48.519 that gives them hope to because like sometimes when you're all alone, your family, 341 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.359 your friends don't get you, they're all doing their best to support you, 342 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.000 but you just feel like a fuck, nobody understands me and now I'm 343 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:57.029 stuck in a box hospital I can't get out. That's a pretty low place. 344 00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:00.309 So, man, if but I do know that they have access to 345 00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:03.869 audio and they can listen to things, often on their own, with their 346 00:24:03.869 --> 00:24:06.750 own choices. So, yeah, your story does fucking help, Dude, 347 00:24:06.750 --> 00:24:10.579 because you were deep into it and my dude, it sounds Cliche, but, 348 00:24:11.019 --> 00:24:11.740 and I hate to say it, but dude, you look great. 349 00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:15.579 You look fine, but obviously that people. A lot of times people tell 350 00:24:15.579 --> 00:24:18.420 me that too, and like they don't see the dark fucking humanoid that lives 351 00:24:18.460 --> 00:24:21.980 beneath my face mask here, and I'm like right, do you have hard 352 00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:29.529 time taking compliments, for example on your artwork? Yeah, like, like, 353 00:24:29.970 --> 00:24:33.049 for example, like my wife she's like, how in the Hell did 354 00:24:33.089 --> 00:24:37.880 you whip that up so fast? Yeah, things you think of like because 355 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:44.960 it's just I really like a lot of times I just like I use the 356 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.440 waycom tablet nice, Yep, yeah, and I just start, you know, 357 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.269 just sketching a line. Yeah, another line, and I'm like, 358 00:24:52.390 --> 00:24:56.029 okay, that looks like this, so let me keep doing this, and 359 00:24:56.069 --> 00:25:00.150 then all of a sudden it turns into something. Yeah, crazy. My 360 00:25:00.230 --> 00:25:03.029 wife turns around for a second. That what you just did. That that's 361 00:25:03.029 --> 00:25:06.069 awesome. Yeah, that's a she's like, she's a big fan of my 362 00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:10.019 art. Isn't that great? And she's a very critical person. When you 363 00:25:10.099 --> 00:25:12.259 know, when something you know, she she's ruble about it. She's like, 364 00:25:12.500 --> 00:25:15.779 though, your arts amazing, right, she won't hold back. If 365 00:25:15.859 --> 00:25:18.059 it was shit, she would tell you, but it's not. Yes, 366 00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:21.339 that's awesome. I always ask are like like do you think this is good? 367 00:25:21.690 --> 00:25:23.289 She's and she loved it. Then I'm I got cool and put it 368 00:25:23.329 --> 00:25:29.930 up. So yeah, I mean I'm loving what I do and I just 369 00:25:30.170 --> 00:25:33.930 I'm looking forward to like the day where I can just really just make a 370 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:40.799 living, right, picking money doing this and not and then also like investing 371 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:44.880 in other projects, because that is not great really. That's really fun to 372 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.480 me. I think so too. I Like I missed out on doodles. 373 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.470 I love doodles. Yeah, me too. I missed that, but I 374 00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:53.589 love them. How that's my favorite. There the color block, all her 375 00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:59.309 the color scheme, just the softness and the I don't know, it looks 376 00:25:59.309 --> 00:26:02.349 like joy in a little bundle. Right. Yeah, good stuff. They're. 377 00:26:02.430 --> 00:26:06.180 Yeah, yeah, I missed out because it was like, I'm not 378 00:26:06.539 --> 00:26:10.099 not too long ago, is like I think it dropped down to like one 379 00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:14.819 e who like like like a few weeks ago, back when the dip, 380 00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:18.490 when ethery was like really pumping. Yeah, yeah, and I had enough 381 00:26:18.529 --> 00:26:23.130 eat to buy it, but I bought another, I bought another project. 382 00:26:23.170 --> 00:26:27.930 Yeah, and now, like, of course, doodles is like shot way 383 00:26:27.970 --> 00:26:32.369 up right, right, you know, you just you never know, because 384 00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:36.000 doodles and like Mecca were coming out at the same time, I think roughly, 385 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.319 and Oh my got Mecca first. Yeah, and see what happens. 386 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.480 Like they just totally diverge. One goes one way, the other goes another 387 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.799 way. So, yeah, it trading and FT's, as a trader's a 388 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:51.109 lot like. Well, it's even riskier and crazy than currency trading. Yes, 389 00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:53.869 so it's as fast, but it's even crazier because it has to like 390 00:26:53.950 --> 00:26:56.710 in these spaces, like listen to these Alpha Yeah, you know that, 391 00:26:56.829 --> 00:27:00.430 helpa spaces and stuff like that, because you could find some really good stuff. 392 00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:03.779 Yeah, and you can take the temperature of the room, I guess 393 00:27:03.819 --> 00:27:04.500 it's a good way to put it. And you just kind of get a 394 00:27:04.579 --> 00:27:10.420 feel like that person said something slightly snarky about that project, and do you 395 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:11.859 look at their thing? Oh, they're fucking big ASS. Well, let's 396 00:27:11.900 --> 00:27:15.299 see, and you look at the PEA, the ment, the thing that 397 00:27:15.380 --> 00:27:18.450 they kind of mentioned off handedly, like, okay, Nope, that's on 398 00:27:18.529 --> 00:27:21.410 my no list now. So they have a lot of pull. I hope 399 00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:26.849 they use it sparingly, or judiciously, let's say, because, yeah, 400 00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:32.400 I've always I'm trying to be a champion for most mentally disordered folks. I 401 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.119 always have a trouble because, depending on who I'm talking to, some people 402 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.359 get offended and what you call these things, but anyway, the mind's conditions, 403 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.240 I'm always trying to be a champion for them because a lot of people, 404 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.190 I fucked up heads, are poor because they've never had stability in their 405 00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:48.549 lives, so they never established a career, don't have a bank account, 406 00:27:48.789 --> 00:27:51.789 and what we're saying things like, oh, it's only this, you just 407 00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:55.589 need to get a ledger wall, and they're like fifty nine dollars. Fifty 408 00:27:55.670 --> 00:27:59.099 nine dollars. I spend fifty nine dollars on groceries for two weeks. So 409 00:27:59.220 --> 00:28:00.539 they I mean so I'm always have a lot of empathy, like how do 410 00:28:00.619 --> 00:28:06.220 we get people up and even into the atmosphere to play with them, because 411 00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:12.250 they have to get in when you're on the white list, Yep, or 412 00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:18.809 like during the minting mending time. You know, we can right weight cheaper, 413 00:28:18.890 --> 00:28:21.329 and I think that's that's the way that these a lot of these guys 414 00:28:21.369 --> 00:28:25.049 are very successful. Yeah, and because it doesn't have to go up so 415 00:28:25.089 --> 00:28:30.279 much. You know, like I bought and I regret it, but you 416 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.799 know, you can never tell. At least took a profit. Yeah, 417 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.680 but I don't know if you know about the the what is it? The 418 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.599 Wolf and sheep? Oh, this is all blown up today. Yes, 419 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.150 you have. Well, the sheep blown up on twitter today, November, 420 00:28:41.230 --> 00:28:45.549 twenty two thousand and twenty one. For the record, I got two sheep 421 00:28:48.309 --> 00:28:51.589 and I got them for like dirt sheet. Awesome. I think it was 422 00:28:51.630 --> 00:28:55.069 like zero point zero two or some holy mother. Okay, I know, 423 00:28:55.859 --> 00:29:00.059 and I sold them. I made profit, but I hadn't. Who knew 424 00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.420 that? Like it today, I caught it and it was like one for 425 00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:06.980 eat. Yeah, they blew up overnight. Oh my God, yeah, 426 00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:11.970 almost overnight, literally, like literally almost overnight. But it is what it 427 00:29:12.130 --> 00:29:15.809 is. All there's there's always going to be opportunity. Yeah, but I 428 00:29:15.849 --> 00:29:19.329 did get to that good crypto, cryptogones Yo. Yeah, yeah, go 429 00:29:19.490 --> 00:29:23.170 tunes, Kryptunes, Kryptunes, kryptunes. Yeah, I got one of those 430 00:29:23.170 --> 00:29:26.640 because I really liked the art. So, yeah, that's a cool thing 431 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.400 too, and I think most anything minted now it's going to be worth a 432 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.200 lot. And I don't know, I always have this conflict between approaching it 433 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.480 as an investor as an artist, because I'm like, well, I'm just 434 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.829 going to keep making art. It's free for me to make art. Yeah, 435 00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:40.910 but then I'm like, well, if I sell some more this art, 436 00:29:40.990 --> 00:29:42.430 I can go buy some of that art that I like. That I 437 00:29:42.509 --> 00:29:45.670 can't do because I can't conceive of Shit that other people do, which is 438 00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:49.750 the fucking coolest thing about art. Ever. It's like, no matter how 439 00:29:49.829 --> 00:29:55.980 good or awesome you think one's own art is, there's always somebody doing something 440 00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:57.579 that blows my mind like Gough. It blows my mind in such a way 441 00:29:57.619 --> 00:30:00.059 that, like I can't even hate. I'm like a fucking got to love 442 00:30:00.099 --> 00:30:03.619 that guy. I'm going to fucking set the bell on twitter and like all 443 00:30:03.740 --> 00:30:06.099 his shit. I feel like such a fan boy for some of these artists 444 00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:08.410 I find and I never would have found that had it not been for NFT's 445 00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:12.650 HMM. Yeah. So, like, I guess it's just a matter of 446 00:30:12.849 --> 00:30:15.170 figuring out my style and how I want to do it, you know, 447 00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:22.759 because it seems like the most successful projects right now are the PFP projects that 448 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:29.559 have like, you know, the Tenzero, yeah, supply or five thousand 449 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.319 whatever, at least a thousand right. Yeah, that's where all the hype 450 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.440 is, for sure. That's where all the hype is. So, like, 451 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.630 I want to, I really want to create like a project like that. 452 00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:41.230 It'll come to you, man, it'll come to you. Really to 453 00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:45.109 that myself, like it just yeah, and they don't either. To your 454 00:30:45.150 --> 00:30:48.750 point, those artists do it right, and some of these guys, I 455 00:30:48.950 --> 00:30:52.019 know what they're doing. Yeah, they go on fiber. Oh, yeah, 456 00:30:52.019 --> 00:30:53.619 of course, anybody can go on fiber. And if you put in 457 00:30:53.779 --> 00:31:00.619 Nft, yeah, K and F K on fiber and K and like these 458 00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:02.740 people will do it and I'll probably get it done in a few days, 459 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:04.849 Yep, and then from there, you know, I guess you have to 460 00:31:04.890 --> 00:31:07.369 get like a developer. I don't know whatever, but yeah, I mean 461 00:31:07.410 --> 00:31:11.690 these people like even I don't like young guys, like teenagers. They're just 462 00:31:12.009 --> 00:31:18.049 tech savvy, right, they figure things out and they end up makings crazy 463 00:31:18.130 --> 00:31:22.720 money and it's just it's an exciting space. But I got to just be 464 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.319 real with myself and yeah, man, build your brand. Yeah, because 465 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.119 I do want to do like a PFP project, but it's got to be 466 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.269 right now and not right now, you know. Yeah, I heard there's 467 00:31:34.269 --> 00:31:38.750 an old street where artist named bobby hundreds in Los Angeles. Yeah, bobby 468 00:31:38.789 --> 00:31:42.589 hundred, right, right. So I just listened to him on NFT now. 469 00:31:44.069 --> 00:31:45.789 is another killer podcast called NFT now, and he was on it just 470 00:31:45.950 --> 00:31:49.420 this past week, so mid November, two thousand and twenty one, and 471 00:31:51.299 --> 00:31:53.220 he explained his whole history of how he drew the bombs and all that, 472 00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:56.859 and apparently he's not fully into it. Yeah, he's like now we're taking 473 00:31:56.900 --> 00:32:00.619 a time where luxury brand, we're not going to reach the whole shitload. 474 00:32:00.740 --> 00:32:04.130 We already have the brands, the different bombs that we're going to release and 475 00:32:04.210 --> 00:32:06.970 we definitely have a vision. But he's like, yeah, it's not a 476 00:32:07.049 --> 00:32:08.609 big rush, we're here, we're here to stay. An they're doing good. 477 00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:10.650 They're doing good. It yips. When you have you know, of 478 00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:15.799 course you have the brand like a Straightam Yep. Think out with and E 479 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.480 T's. It'd be so bad. Like yeah, to a people, though, 480 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.079 right to a point. If your brand is already like complex con like 481 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.839 that sort of brand, probably yes, but if your brand is McDonald's, 482 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.109 probably no. I think about this a lot because if you a lot of 483 00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:34.349 the biggest brands, even in music, try to jump in and do a 484 00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:37.789 rug pull kind of thing and it's like Nah, this is a new world 485 00:32:37.829 --> 00:32:39.670 here, Bro, like this is the great thing about new artist. You 486 00:32:39.789 --> 00:32:45.420 just pop up from the ground and be legit. Yeah, I know there's 487 00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:47.900 a lot of likes the celebrities that like they think they're just gonna they don't 488 00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:51.859 know anything about this nft space or anything. When they do, they just 489 00:32:51.900 --> 00:32:53.579 see money. They're like I see it, you see it on twitter, 490 00:32:53.740 --> 00:32:57.140 like they're like, all of a sudden they buy a Crypto punk or an 491 00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:00.049 ape? Yeah, and they're like, Oh, I'm into it now, 492 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:02.089 I just did this and then all of a sudden, okay, so you're 493 00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:05.930 going to just drop a project now? Yeah, yeah, or sometimes a 494 00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:07.490 lot of people like in the space. They don't. They're not going to 495 00:33:07.769 --> 00:33:10.529 really support that. No, and sometimes I fear. What if you owned 496 00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:17.240 like an ape, and then Jimmy Fallon buys one, and then Jimmy Fallon 497 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.279 gets accused of some bullshit in a week and and then he owns an ape 498 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.230 and now, by Association, the value of your investment now goes down because 499 00:33:28.230 --> 00:33:30.589 a celebrity happened to invest in it. I'm like, that's risk that's really 500 00:33:30.630 --> 00:33:35.309 risky. So, yeah, the whole thing about I think building a brand 501 00:33:35.390 --> 00:33:38.910 in the NFT space from scratch is going to be ultimately more successful than trying 502 00:33:38.950 --> 00:33:44.740 to bring in old world brands into the space, because that seems really dricky. 503 00:33:44.740 --> 00:33:47.380 I haven't seen anybody really do it. Well, I'm on a I'm 504 00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:50.700 on a mission. I am on a MI. That's fine of you right 505 00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:52.900 now, and I'm on a mission. The world is going to know manic 506 00:33:53.180 --> 00:33:59.690 and and I do. I look at other projects that aren't PFP's like with 507 00:33:59.849 --> 00:34:02.890 the Damian Hurst right, yeah, like Cois true collections, but not PFP's. 508 00:34:04.769 --> 00:34:08.369 Yeah, and so I'm like, well, I'm going to see if 509 00:34:08.409 --> 00:34:12.719 I can go that. It's a good model, that for sure. Yeah, 510 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:15.840 in the whole art blocks and stuff like that. So I'm just rolling 511 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.639 with it and just kind of finding my my style myself. And do you 512 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.349 experiment with any other platforms than open sea right now? Have you tried any 513 00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:32.750 of the coins around the platforms? Yeah, I'm on Foundation Foundation. Yeah, 514 00:34:32.829 --> 00:34:36.349 Yep, Yep. Yeah, I got an invite to there and I 515 00:34:36.429 --> 00:34:38.539 put one of my own, one of my pieces on there, one of 516 00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:43.780 my digital sculps. Nice. I can't wait to see those. Yeah, 517 00:34:44.019 --> 00:34:46.019 right on my right, on my own, right on my under twitter twitter 518 00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:51.619 profile. Yet it's called skults by manic. Yeah, if you listen, 519 00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:54.969 you want to go check out his twitter profile. It is metaverse and ft 520 00:34:55.289 --> 00:35:00.489 art on twitter. Check that out. Yeah, and that's like so that's 521 00:35:00.530 --> 00:35:05.889 like my alter ego, crazy metaverse kid, and I got the crazy metaverse 522 00:35:05.929 --> 00:35:07.880 kid, dot eth. Oh. Yeah, yeah, which we got that 523 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.559 a lot, like a few months ago, because you heard about that, 524 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.079 that air drive. Yeah, I got mine late to like a like literally 525 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.800 like three days late. I saw the cutoff day. I was like October 526 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.670 thirty one, and I think I got mine on the third and like it's 527 00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:24.269 that over it for the money, though. I'm just in it to lock 528 00:35:24.349 --> 00:35:28.070 it down so nobody else had a really. Yeah. So, yeah, 529 00:35:28.150 --> 00:35:31.750 crazy metavers kid is like Manic and AKA crazy metaverse kid. Yeah, Um, 530 00:35:32.949 --> 00:35:40.500 actually got the domain name crazy metaverse kids nicecom. Oh, yeah, 531 00:35:40.579 --> 00:35:45.619 because that's something else I do, is by domain name. I haven't done 532 00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:47.099 it so much lately, but I have some domain names I've been holding on 533 00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:52.250 too for years. Yeah, I'm because they digital real estate. Yeah, 534 00:35:52.369 --> 00:35:57.289 I've been all about like making property on yeah, for years, like it's 535 00:35:57.329 --> 00:36:00.929 digital real estate. And next now, once I can start selling my art, 536 00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.519 I want to buy land and sandbox into central land. Yeah, yeah, 537 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.320 especially sand box. This is the this is the new world right now, 538 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.559 and it's everything's this cheam is going to get. Yeah, it's just 539 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.400 going to get more expensive as time goes on, as more people kind of 540 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.150 flood into the new world. So, yeah, that's what's up, Dude. 541 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.510 I collect domain names too, like I love them, because I have 542 00:36:22.750 --> 00:36:24.630 like a science to it, like I'm literally one of my book marks is 543 00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:29.829 this place called name check. So you can go in there in type to 544 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.139 see if the domains available. Twitter, I mean all the social handles, 545 00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:36.059 will give you on one screen if it's available. Because if I'm going to 546 00:36:36.099 --> 00:36:38.380 brand something, the URL's just the first step. If the URL and I 547 00:36:38.420 --> 00:36:43.059 can't get the twitter, but I also and I can't get the fucking facebook 548 00:36:43.059 --> 00:36:45.739 or whatever the new thing is. I don't really do facebook much anymore, 549 00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:49.449 but I'm still I want my fucking name lockdown. Just forgot to do that. 550 00:36:49.610 --> 00:36:53.210 Yeah, I mean I love like. I love hold up second yeah, 551 00:36:53.210 --> 00:37:00.570 yeah, I love like the whole like making money online marketing domain names. 552 00:37:00.730 --> 00:37:04.320 Like I'm I read, you know Alex Becker, I'm not by name, 553 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.679 so he's a big he's big in the n oft space, but and 554 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:13.280 he's all he's a famous youtuber and he wrote a great book. And Yeah, 555 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.030 so I'm, like always is just trying to just, yeah, nailing 556 00:37:16.070 --> 00:37:22.110 everyone, marketing, like personal development, just trying to just, you know, 557 00:37:22.230 --> 00:37:24.989 like this better myself. You know, and I'm a big believer in 558 00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:30.139 the law of attraction. Yeah, the success thing on what you want. 559 00:37:30.420 --> 00:37:34.460 Fuck, yeah, you will. You will actually attractive. Yeah, what 560 00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:37.820 you focus on gross is what they say. Yeah, like like, if 561 00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:40.460 you focus on what you don't want, like I don't want to be broke, 562 00:37:40.619 --> 00:37:45.369 I don't want this, you will actually attractive. Yeah, you're thinking 563 00:37:45.449 --> 00:37:49.289 what you don't want. That's right. And then, like my wife says 564 00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:50.849 it too. She's like man, like, how do you do this? 565 00:37:51.010 --> 00:37:53.769 Like you have that law of attraction. Like like I was in the Crypto 566 00:37:54.570 --> 00:37:59.559 I had my own little moving business, cool, and I just stall a 567 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.639 sudden random somebody that was doing crypto and like, I mean, it's just 568 00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.880 that's what I did. There's a random circumstance. I was like in San 569 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.000 Francisco on the evening of Chinese New Year and I was down by the beach. 570 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.429 All the buses were stuck so they couldn't come down to pick US up. 571 00:38:14.789 --> 00:38:16.829 They just got stuck in Chinatown. I got stuck with this guy that 572 00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:21.949 was wouldn't shut up about bitcoin for like forty five minutes, just me and 573 00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:25.710 him at a bus stop seven years ago, and I'm like, I'm glad 574 00:38:25.750 --> 00:38:29.260 I met that guy. You never know how you're going to like find out 575 00:38:29.300 --> 00:38:30.539 the thing you need to know to get to the next stage. That's why 576 00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:34.860 I think it's so critical to just always be open minded and fucking curious, 577 00:38:34.940 --> 00:38:37.340 like dig a little deeper if you hear something that Piques your interest. Dig 578 00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:40.139 a little deeper, man, exactly. That's why I love life. It's 579 00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:45.010 so cool to connect with like minded people. Like it when I'm in a 580 00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:47.650 lot of times that people in the NFT space. They've they've liked to you 581 00:38:47.809 --> 00:38:51.449 done like the domain name thing, and Yep, a lot of people seem 582 00:38:51.530 --> 00:38:54.050 like they've already been making you know, trying to make money online, or 583 00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:58.159 I have made money online. So they all like ties in together totally, 584 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.880 but with our art, with their actually creative output, this time with yes. 585 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:07.519 So I'm just happy as hell to have stumbled across the N ft's and 586 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.150 yeah and it's. Does it seem like your life is more aligned? That's 587 00:39:10.150 --> 00:39:13.710 one of the things, the kind of a constant theme of the shows. 588 00:39:13.750 --> 00:39:17.670 I think most people that suffer from mental illnesses or disorders are simply suffering because 589 00:39:17.710 --> 00:39:21.190 they're forced to get up, do a nine hundred and twenty five in a 590 00:39:21.269 --> 00:39:22.989 fucking box and do it again every day, every day, every day. 591 00:39:23.150 --> 00:39:27.539 I don't think humans are set up for that and I think if we're allowed 592 00:39:27.539 --> 00:39:30.699 to break free and like create art, I think a lot of people's suffering 593 00:39:30.900 --> 00:39:37.179 will diminish really quickly without any medication. MMM. But right now, like 594 00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:40.530 I haven't worked a nine hundred and twenty five in a while. Good, 595 00:39:42.730 --> 00:39:45.130 because I'm always I figure out like how to make like I like with the 596 00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:49.969 Merch by Amazon, the print on demand, like I've formed like passive income, 597 00:39:50.130 --> 00:39:53.199 like killer every month, like it's just a definite money coming in. 598 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.880 Yep. But I also I have my own junk removable business. Oh Nice, 599 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.960 and that's like the bread and butter right now. Do you find probably 600 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:07.389 fund a bunch of killer stuff. Do you like turn it into craigslist or 601 00:40:07.550 --> 00:40:12.429 marketplace sales or things like that too? Just pure jump junk. I don't 602 00:40:12.429 --> 00:40:15.429 have time for that. Yeah, okay, pretty much just junk. But 603 00:40:15.590 --> 00:40:20.269 it's a great business because I mean literally like say, for example, I 604 00:40:20.309 --> 00:40:22.739 pick up a mattress, like I literally take match to on the truck and 605 00:40:22.780 --> 00:40:24.980 that's like quick hundred and twenty bucks. Nice, yeah, boom, like 606 00:40:25.099 --> 00:40:28.820 right there. And then, once I have my truck filled up more than 607 00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:30.579 I go to the landfill and dispose a bit. But cool, cool, 608 00:40:31.260 --> 00:40:35.849 sick business. That's enss balance to like is that gets you in touch with 609 00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:38.130 the real people, the real world. That the idea that we generate and 610 00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:42.369 buy stuff and create waste. But then on the flip side you jump right 611 00:40:42.409 --> 00:40:45.650 into the full digital world where everything is our imagination. Yeah, I mean 612 00:40:45.690 --> 00:40:51.800 I'll literally do junk removal by day, come home and do this digital art. 613 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.079 So how much time do you spend on twitter? That's a big thing 614 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.039 I've noticing because a lot of times, as an nft artist, I would 615 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.599 say eighty percent of your if you call that a hundred percent of your nft 616 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:02.519 artist your job, if that's a hundred percent, I'd say eighty percent is 617 00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:08.909 twitter and twenty percent is creating. What's the breakdown for you twitter? I'm 618 00:41:09.070 --> 00:41:13.869 on Oh, all day, like not stop. Basically take it in your 619 00:41:13.909 --> 00:41:15.829 phone. It means on the computer. UND's actually it's a problem, but 620 00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:22.099 at the same time it's part of our job. Like yeah, gotta Chill, 621 00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:24.139 we gotta you know, like I'm on twitter, like got engaged, 622 00:41:24.340 --> 00:41:27.780 I got to show up and this r out oft post what you have of 623 00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:30.579 Abous. I'm like, Yep, posting, posting and posting and posting, 624 00:41:30.699 --> 00:41:34.610 and now I'm working on getting in the twitter spaces. And Yeah, that's 625 00:41:34.650 --> 00:41:37.090 how I found you, dude, because that's a whole nother, another level, 626 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:38.929 right, because some people just listen to stuff. I was blown away 627 00:41:38.929 --> 00:41:44.210 because a lot of my podcast listeners don't have twitter accounts. A lot of 628 00:41:44.289 --> 00:41:46.639 my twitter followers follow me for years and finally like Oh, you have a 629 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:51.760 podcast. So it just super different audiences. And by being bold enough to 630 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.400 step out of your comfort zone in twitter and use your voice on twitter. 631 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.039 Most people wouldn't think to speak on twitter. That be twitter's going to hear 632 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.110 me talk, but you did. It's crazy. And the funny thing is 633 00:42:02.349 --> 00:42:07.469 is that my twitter account. I opened it in two thousand and eleven, 634 00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:10.789 Yep, and I never used it because I thought twitter was whack. Yeah, 635 00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:14.590 say, I just you know, I was using before. I now 636 00:42:14.789 --> 00:42:17.340 like now I don't even. I use instagram to post up some art. 637 00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:21.059 Yeah, for years in starting consisting, because you know, you have to. 638 00:42:21.500 --> 00:42:23.659 It's all about being consistent. Like if you leave the room, you've 639 00:42:23.659 --> 00:42:29.980 left. Yeah, so I'm like consistent. Well, you know, it's 640 00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:31.329 hard to like have tick tock and instagram and all this. But so, 641 00:42:31.489 --> 00:42:37.489 like, my main focus right now really is twitter and twitter lt it just 642 00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:40.449 blew up right. So used to have hardly any followers or not. Thinking 643 00:42:40.570 --> 00:42:44.760 crypto and Ft. it's like twitter. Yeah, and I hear that all 644 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.679 the time a lot of people. They didn't go on twitter. Now it's 645 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.960 like it. You see a lot of howd reactivated dormant twitter accounts and livening 646 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.559 up from two thousand and eleven and stuff like that. And when I logged 647 00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.719 in I was like, man, this is from two thousand and eleven. 648 00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.869 Yeah, right, yeah, I got him. I got on twitter early 649 00:42:59.909 --> 00:43:02.789 because I've always been into you want to get that name, you know, 650 00:43:02.909 --> 00:43:06.190 going to get your at handle you want. I mean all those things. 651 00:43:06.230 --> 00:43:07.710 Any time I hear from New Shit, I go there just so nobody else 652 00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:12.940 takes my name. Yeah, yeah, with the whole like the domain name 653 00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:16.260 thing. But you know about the website FLIPPA? Huh? Okay, so 654 00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:20.139 it's a domain name auction. Okay, cool, yeah, I love that. 655 00:43:20.380 --> 00:43:22.699 By domain, you know, by domaining from go Daddy, your name, 656 00:43:22.780 --> 00:43:24.820 Che I got whatever. I'm I should go sell some. Yeah, 657 00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:30.369 and you can go on Flippacom and list them and and sell them, but 658 00:43:30.489 --> 00:43:34.650 let's see people doing that with their eath names and their test names and things 659 00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:36.849 like that. Tea. Yeah, did that eath. I just got mine. 660 00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:39.409 But Um, when I first got into an FT space, I got 661 00:43:39.449 --> 00:43:43.519 a dot crypto. Oh, yeah, I got a dot art just for 662 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.159 art, because I knew it was going to be pure art and not necessarily 663 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.599 coins. But yeah, it's just because. Yeah, get that sum. 664 00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.079 Yeah, and what do you call it? Had some got IOS. I 665 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:59.510 like those Catty X Y Z's. I did. I did or I don't 666 00:43:59.510 --> 00:44:01.349 even know. Yeah, there's some X Y Z's. That's become a trade. 667 00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:05.230 Yeah, got I. Oh, I know it's for like tech, 668 00:44:05.429 --> 00:44:07.510 very yeah, and there's some cool stuff in io audio. I mean like 669 00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:13.300 a music industry can do io as well. And Yeah, and it Christ 670 00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:16.980 few years ago, like you could have got some great dot IOS, because 671 00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:20.940 now many, not as many, people are using them. Yeah, they 672 00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:22.659 look cool. Now it's hard to tell what you're going to actually get adopted 673 00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:25.570 to, because who knew? Like XYZ, I wouldn't have thought of, 674 00:44:25.690 --> 00:44:29.170 but once I heard it on a Crypto podcast, I'm like, all right, 675 00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:30.889 I'll go get some X Y Z's. So this is it? Is 676 00:44:30.969 --> 00:44:36.610 it? What is it called? Top level domain? Teo Field? Right, 677 00:44:36.650 --> 00:44:39.840 yeah, there's one that has been supposed to come and come out, 678 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.840 come out up Um dot web. That sounds familiar, but it never has. 679 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.000 Huh, never had interesting, and I was like waiting for it to 680 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.190 happen because you know, then, if you could just find out about these 681 00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:55.269 early and just scoop up what you can. Yeah, Dude, you I 682 00:44:55.389 --> 00:45:00.030 found another thing because I was like, I grew up with like motorhead and 683 00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:02.349 Motley crue and bands like they used to put Oom lauts over there. OHS, 684 00:45:02.429 --> 00:45:07.579 they're use will. You can get top level domains with oomlauts in them, 685 00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:10.059 and I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm going to start art 686 00:45:10.099 --> 00:45:14.179 project with the top level domain that actually has an Umlaut over one of the 687 00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:17.340 letters. And the mind fuck is that most people don't know how to create 688 00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:21.849 the Oom l out letters on their keyboards, so nobody will know how to 689 00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:24.090 type my domain name. The literally have to see it on tshirts and on 690 00:45:24.369 --> 00:45:29.489 you know, graphics and things and Click. Yeah, can't wait. Yeah, 691 00:45:29.530 --> 00:45:31.329 check into that next time. You're the fucking round domain names. You 692 00:45:31.449 --> 00:45:36.920 can just get sit like Uber with Oom Laut. You. Let me see 693 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:44.119 own loud. Yeah, I'm write that down, you said loud. Yeah, 694 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:49.639 it was. It's spelled you M L A ut Oom l out, 695 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.750 and it's just the name for European characters that have dots on the top of 696 00:45:53.909 --> 00:46:00.030 them. Okay, so like Uber. The word Uber would we pronounce it 697 00:46:00.269 --> 00:46:05.019 U Beer, but in Germany it has two dots over it's pronounced like Uber. 698 00:46:05.860 --> 00:46:08.099 So it's rights kind of weird, but I'm just for the esthetic value. 699 00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:12.500 I've always loved two dots, like Hog and Doss, motor and Motley 700 00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:15.099 crue, like what it looks cool. Yeah, my what can't I have 701 00:46:15.219 --> 00:46:16.780 that? I'm like, Oh shit, I can. Fuck yeah, I 702 00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:20.650 think in the back of behind the scenes, is created a long string of 703 00:46:20.730 --> 00:46:23.409 characters. So your real domain name is like x throw, xcel, three, 704 00:46:23.809 --> 00:46:27.650 five, seven, whatever, Bob. Yeah, I know, like 705 00:46:27.730 --> 00:46:31.489 Chinese domain names are pretty valuable, but yeah, I love that. Cool 706 00:46:31.489 --> 00:46:35.239 Man. Well, anything you want to share specifically. So I think we've 707 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:38.280 got where people can find you. That's awesome and you're always welcome to come 708 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.719 back. If you got a new drop or anything you know, just drop 709 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.480 on on or call me and I'll mention it on a different show if you 710 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.869 don't want to necessarily come on, for sure. So always happy to help. 711 00:46:47.949 --> 00:46:51.750 Love your story. I'm due. Your story can go so many different 712 00:46:51.789 --> 00:46:54.309 directions, because we could talk about meds, we can talk about what it's 713 00:46:54.349 --> 00:46:59.510 like being locked in, we could talk about the especially the transition. I'm 714 00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:04.179 most happy that you seems to be living your independent life. Is What brought 715 00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:07.820 you out of the I don't know, out of the mental cloud. Yeah, 716 00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:12.099 I mean, I'm just I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm must like 717 00:47:12.340 --> 00:47:16.050 I want this to happen really bad. So I will not stop until I 718 00:47:16.289 --> 00:47:22.610 can become financially free doing what I love, and so I'm just going to 719 00:47:22.650 --> 00:47:27.010 keep showing up, like you know, actually, one of my pieces of 720 00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:35.239 art was exhibited in in Manhattan. Wow, not n FT, you can 721 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.960 the NFT NYC. Yeah, yeah, it was, is like a drop 722 00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.710 by a known guy in this space. You had one of your things shown 723 00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:50.710 up there aft and I see now, yeah, motivate, no shit. 724 00:47:50.789 --> 00:47:52.230 Oh, yeah, I've seen his account. Shout out to motivate. Yeah, 725 00:47:52.389 --> 00:47:57.510 I was showed, like my art was chosen from a certain amount of 726 00:47:57.550 --> 00:48:00.539 artist and it wasn't even like that many, but they happened to choose mine, 727 00:48:00.579 --> 00:48:01.900 so that was really cool. Yeah, that's fucking great. Dude, 728 00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:06.300 congrats. So was that a digital art shown in the real world on a 729 00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:08.099 screen, or is that it was? Actually it was in, it was 730 00:48:08.219 --> 00:48:12.739 in and in New York. Yeah, they had these art all over there 731 00:48:12.780 --> 00:48:15.570 in the subway with a Qr Code. Oh Dope, okay, cool, 732 00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:21.050 that's really neat. So so you're a still shot of your art is in 733 00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:23.050 the subway with the Qr code to the digital is. I don't know if 734 00:48:23.050 --> 00:48:27.280 they like took it down, but for a while it was all these artists 735 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.320 work was writing. You know, I forgot where was. That was like 736 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.679 in the subway. Yeah, good for them, probably leading right up to 737 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.000 the locations nearest the right and it shortly after that that's when the whole d 738 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:43.389 n FT NYC situation went down, and I would have loved to go on 739 00:48:43.469 --> 00:48:45.989 to that because that looks really cool and good place to network. Oh yeah, 740 00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:50.989 definitely. There's a couple of hearing them, both that and complex con 741 00:48:51.110 --> 00:48:53.230 is another one on the west coast, and then apparently the big thing down 742 00:48:53.269 --> 00:48:58.780 in Florida is going to be art basil Miami and a couple weeks. So 743 00:48:58.860 --> 00:49:00.019 yeah, there's a lot of places. Ben If you got it. Any 744 00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:02.940 of you to travel and get out. Who is a lot of good real 745 00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:07.139 life places to fucking interact, for sure. You are you going to make 746 00:49:07.260 --> 00:49:08.820 like some some kind of brand or way, because you know, if you 747 00:49:08.900 --> 00:49:12.130 go out in publicly, got a board a or something like that. You 748 00:49:12.210 --> 00:49:15.050 got a yacht club logo on your jacket or Hoodi or whatever, people can 749 00:49:15.050 --> 00:49:20.530 see you. Are you thinking of developing some kind of icon that people can 750 00:49:20.610 --> 00:49:22.449 recognize your work on? Like you got a supreme hat, I got fucking 751 00:49:22.530 --> 00:49:25.280 Emo Dojo shirt and you do print on demand. Some. I'm thinking, 752 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.079 like what's next? You're going to make a identifier for yourself? Yeah, 753 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.960 the manic, that the am like up we see up here in the capital, 754 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.719 m lower keys A. Yeah, okay, killer. Yeah, yeah, 755 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.909 I can't wait to see that. A be like my signature. Yeah, 756 00:49:39.230 --> 00:49:44.550 manic, sick, Short, maccom. Yep, it's taken them, 757 00:49:44.590 --> 00:49:46.469 I bet. I'm obviously for sure you're right. Short, don't mean name, 758 00:49:46.550 --> 00:49:52.829 but and Manic Dot eth is taken you. So whatever out. Maybe 759 00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:57.940 I'll get a different tld. Yeah, but the crazy metaverse kid. I 760 00:49:58.900 --> 00:50:04.659 got the crazy metavers kid, dot eth and I have crazy metaverse kidscom. 761 00:50:05.820 --> 00:50:09.090 So that's a good one. What thinking when I thought of the reason why 762 00:50:09.090 --> 00:50:14.849 I got the crazy metavers kidscom because I was laying in bed thinking about N 763 00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:20.809 ft's and I was like falling asleep and I thought garbage pail kids, Oh 764 00:50:20.929 --> 00:50:24.280 yes, right, teeth. Yeah, so I was like garbage peel kids 765 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.760 and my mind was like crazy metaverse kids, yeah, right, I'm so 766 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:35.989 I was like make a project called crazy metavers kids, you know, and 767 00:50:36.070 --> 00:50:39.389 then just different characteristics and it could be really why iildlooking characters and do that 768 00:50:39.469 --> 00:50:44.429 going to be the PFP project right there? Yes, crazy metaverse kids, 769 00:50:44.469 --> 00:50:46.670 Yep, I already got the domain name, Yep, and I have my 770 00:50:46.829 --> 00:50:51.579 create. I'm the crazy metaver's kids. So crazy metavers kid dot eve right, 771 00:50:51.780 --> 00:50:54.300 and each case of Metavers iscom. I think their look should be depended 772 00:50:54.380 --> 00:51:00.340 upon whatever their mental illness is, like here's they can be really depressed David, 773 00:51:00.860 --> 00:51:04.139 here's Manic Matthew, that kind of thing, because I don't know what 774 00:51:04.289 --> 00:51:07.929 how the garbage pail kids got so ugly, like what's what made each one 775 00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:12.409 ugly? But you have a running theme already that, yes, I had 776 00:51:12.449 --> 00:51:15.090 to kid could have a different thing. Yeah, and they could be really, 777 00:51:15.369 --> 00:51:20.039 you know, crazy looking and you know yeah, abstract. Fuck, 778 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.639 yeah, I like crazy metavers kids and they could be like C mk. 779 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that too. So I just like 780 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.239 I got the domain name right away. was I have that taken care of. 781 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:35.389 Now it's just developing that whole situation. I already stored of I thought 782 00:51:35.389 --> 00:51:38.670 about a whole story, but but that's just something I have in the back. 783 00:51:38.829 --> 00:51:42.429 Right again, it's back to the priorities, like so, Shit, 784 00:51:42.510 --> 00:51:45.869 I've only got eight other things I'm working on now, but I'm definitely keeping 785 00:51:45.949 --> 00:51:50.699 that one like that. I'm definitely, because that's like right now it seems 786 00:51:50.739 --> 00:51:54.940 like the really the that's like the hype is the Pie and seems like a 787 00:51:54.980 --> 00:51:58.659 fun challenge to do it right, because I would try to do it in 788 00:51:58.739 --> 00:52:01.690 a way that kind of, you know, addressed issues that I have problems 789 00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:06.849 without other PF P prong projects, then that huge issues. But just artistically 790 00:52:06.889 --> 00:52:08.329 and things like that, I'm like, well, if, instead of bitching 791 00:52:08.329 --> 00:52:12.289 about things, I always like to like file it for a project I have 792 00:52:12.369 --> 00:52:15.280 to do one day, because, like podcast, I kept hearing podcast Mike. 793 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.679 I don't like the way that's done. It's too square, it's too 794 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.239 like formulaic and like well, shut up and quit bitching about just make a 795 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.000 podcast. See how hard it is, see how easy it is, whichever. 796 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.119 So the same thing with the PFP project. You kind of want to 797 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.670 like, I don't know, it looks challenge you, it looks fun, 798 00:52:30.710 --> 00:52:34.070 and it would actually because it kind of tickles a part of the mind. 799 00:52:34.190 --> 00:52:37.590 That be Badass to have a set of playing cards of your own thing, 800 00:52:37.789 --> 00:52:39.230 whatever that turns out to be. Yeah, I love that, man. 801 00:52:39.269 --> 00:52:43.030 Yeah, it's so cool. Like I'm a I'm a big Fan of Gary 802 00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:45.340 v and sure, yeah, me too. Yeah, and when he had 803 00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:50.260 his when he was talking about his own NFT's, like not even that long 804 00:52:50.340 --> 00:52:54.139 ago, when he was like saying I think they were like thousand dollars or 805 00:52:54.139 --> 00:52:59.130 a little bit over a thousand dollars, and I was like that's expensive, 806 00:52:59.449 --> 00:53:01.409 like that's riding now that one's gonna spend that. And all of a sudden 807 00:53:01.449 --> 00:53:05.329 they're no, and now they're like seconds. At one point, I don't 808 00:53:05.369 --> 00:53:08.130 eat, they were like forget, but like over fifteen eight or something like 809 00:53:08.250 --> 00:53:12.449 that, or even more. Yeah, and what? and to people that 810 00:53:12.730 --> 00:53:15.639 don't know about what we're talking about, so Gary v Vander check is a 811 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:22.559 popular business motivational coach, investor guy. He turned his daily scribbles into NFTS. 812 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.960 He like, you know, kind of crude scribble of a to can 813 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.829 or something. They're cute enough and you can identify what it is, but 814 00:53:29.150 --> 00:53:32.110 snow you know it's not like high art by any means, but because he 815 00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:38.349 has a following and he he's high machine. Madam he turned his little scribbles 816 00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:43.940 on a Napkin, almost literally scribbles on an African, into hundreds of thousand 817 00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:47.219 dollars each. Oh my God. Yeah, actually ordered. He had this 818 00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:52.380 opportunity about if you order these books. Do you know about that? Yeah, 819 00:53:52.420 --> 00:53:53.940 I remember that. Huh. You have been following since the first drew 820 00:53:53.980 --> 00:53:55.809 a scribble. I'm like, what is this? And then it came out 821 00:53:55.809 --> 00:53:59.889 a couple weeks later, like Oh, that's your nft. What. Okay, 822 00:53:59.969 --> 00:54:01.530 like a few months ago, like he's putting out a new book, 823 00:54:01.570 --> 00:54:06.449 like twelve and a half, I forgot the name of it, twelve something, 824 00:54:07.969 --> 00:54:13.280 and if you bought twelve books he's going to air drop. Excuse me, 825 00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.360 Um, not, I don't think it's a V friend. Yeah, 826 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:19.280 it's not. It's a new thing, a book friend. I think my 827 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.480 wife was saying it. Yeah, he differentiates them so the V friends maintain 828 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:24.829 their value. Yeah, that's like the originals. Yeah, so I'm going 829 00:54:24.869 --> 00:54:29.670 to be getting an air drop from Oh, you are dude sighted. Fuck. 830 00:54:29.750 --> 00:54:32.989 Yeah, and I was supposed to get I ordered like thirty two, 831 00:54:34.110 --> 00:54:37.070 but there was an issue that from Barnes and noble or a canceled one of 832 00:54:37.110 --> 00:54:39.780 the orders. Fuckers, because I would have gotten ended up getting three of 833 00:54:39.860 --> 00:54:44.179 them. Damn. That's still so. Also now I'm gonna hold on to 834 00:54:44.380 --> 00:54:46.659 that because, yeah, I mean, why not? To write a lot 835 00:54:46.699 --> 00:54:51.059 of the things that you like, I give away and FT sometimes to people 836 00:54:51.059 --> 00:54:52.659 I meet. They're like, oh, that's fucking cool. I'm like, 837 00:54:52.699 --> 00:54:53.329 you know what, I'm just going to give you one, because my thing 838 00:54:53.409 --> 00:54:57.730 isn't about making money with nfts right now. It's about making money for my 839 00:54:57.730 --> 00:55:01.690 kids and NFT's a generation from now. So I'm always like, yeah, 840 00:55:01.929 --> 00:55:05.650 I don't need your money right now, just like I don't know a grip 841 00:55:05.650 --> 00:55:08.039 kind of like as a street kids sometimes, and I remember the whole thing, 842 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.559 and they used to give away drugs until they got you hooked and then 843 00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.440 they can try they could charge you anything. So I kind of feel the 844 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.880 same way with NFTS. I'm just like, get people on. I could 845 00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:20.159 tell you what, if you set up a fucking wallet, I will give 846 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.070 you something, just so you can know how to play the game and receive 847 00:55:22.389 --> 00:55:27.630 a thing from person that you know and trust. So exactly like I've given 848 00:55:27.670 --> 00:55:30.110 away, I've listened. So my AMT's for free. Yeah, you know. 849 00:55:30.190 --> 00:55:34.750 And so people, just so people could have my art in there, 850 00:55:34.869 --> 00:55:37.739 you know, in their collection, and if somebody else spread the love, 851 00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:40.739 it's this and then it'll click on that and it can take them to my 852 00:55:40.860 --> 00:55:44.980 collection. Yeah, Dude, I'll give people to you. Keep on and 853 00:55:45.059 --> 00:55:46.780 sell one if you can. Good luck selling. I mean it's and that's 854 00:55:46.820 --> 00:55:50.969 what you know. What I do. I'M gonna I'll go on my abstract 855 00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:55.730 visions account and I will make some better zero dollars, right. And so 856 00:55:55.809 --> 00:55:59.610 if it was interested, they can just pay the gas fee. Yeah, 857 00:55:59.730 --> 00:56:01.250 there you go. That's see, I think that's great. So, and 858 00:56:01.610 --> 00:56:05.000 especially if you know that person in real life and kind of hold their hand 859 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.119 or walk them through and the Bam, now you've on boarded a new person. 860 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.239 Yeah, so I guess I could. I could send you a lay. 861 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:14.119 I'm going to go through my arm my so my art. Yeah, 862 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.920 I think the abstract visions one. Yes, send me all your links. 863 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.190 I'll put them all in the show notes. Anything you want. This is 864 00:56:19.269 --> 00:56:22.230 just fully promotional to get out of loader. The price to zero. So 865 00:56:23.110 --> 00:56:28.269 somebody wants to buy their first NFT or just have one, you know, 866 00:56:28.349 --> 00:56:30.389 the for free, they can just pay the gas. Yep, straight up. 867 00:56:30.429 --> 00:56:34.099 Yeah, I'll definitely send you that. How long have you been doing 868 00:56:34.179 --> 00:56:38.340 this podcast? Since like twenty sixteen. I worked out a fucking tech company 869 00:56:38.860 --> 00:56:45.619 that made software for politicians to run for office and we're like, yeah, 870 00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:50.090 anybody should be able to run for office. Well, trump wasn't allowed to 871 00:56:50.170 --> 00:56:52.889 use anybody software. They weren't allowed. He wasn't allowed to use the Republicans 872 00:56:52.929 --> 00:56:57.610 or the Democrats. So he fucking came and used our software, and then 873 00:56:57.730 --> 00:57:01.880 one and then I got depressed after that and just change jobs, change careers, 874 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.480 got out of tax. Even doing this since two thousand and sixteen. 875 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.599 Yeah, just off and on and sometimes once a quarter, sometimes once a 876 00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.719 day. But because I don't have like a therapist and I move a lot, 877 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.150 set off as like a stable set of social friends or circles, but 878 00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:21.510 I have this like confessional. I just like get them talk, because if 879 00:57:21.510 --> 00:57:23.389 there's nobody like of his, no, guess I'll just get up and talk 880 00:57:23.550 --> 00:57:29.630 and maybe talk too much. Share overshare a little bit. But so, 881 00:57:29.909 --> 00:57:32.420 but there's a kind of a dividing line, like my employers can't find me 882 00:57:32.500 --> 00:57:37.980 because my name's not John Emotions in real life and people that know me as 883 00:57:38.019 --> 00:57:43.420 John Emotions on Emodojo don't care things to look for my real life person. 884 00:57:43.539 --> 00:57:46.530 So there's a nice little line there, but they're slowly kind of squishing into 885 00:57:46.570 --> 00:57:51.929 each other in the metaverse. So yeah, so you discover me in that 886 00:57:52.050 --> 00:57:54.010 twitter spaces? Yeah, yeah, weird. I think it was Keith Barry 887 00:57:54.050 --> 00:57:59.000 Space, one of the spaces he puts up there. And Yeah, good. 888 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.639 Anytime someone's bold enough to fucking say yeah, I'm here, I have 889 00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.159 whatever something. If they acknowledge they have any kind of mental disability, I'm 890 00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.679 like, that's a fucking bold person right there, and need to talk to 891 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:15.349 them. We need to encourage other people like us to go ahead and speak 892 00:58:15.349 --> 00:58:16.909 up. You know we'll have your back. Will for what it's worth. 893 00:58:17.349 --> 00:58:21.349 But also, I'm you, just good practice to get out there and fucking 894 00:58:21.750 --> 00:58:24.389 work out as muscles. PODCAST that I've been on just your first one. 895 00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:28.539 Yeah, Oh dude, awesome, you doing fucking killer and like you kind 896 00:58:28.579 --> 00:58:30.460 of a natural add it, and in the future I can imagine you just 897 00:58:30.539 --> 00:58:34.380 starting your own little thing. Dude, might as well, right. Yeah. 898 00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:37.460 And so another thing was when I was younger, like I wanted to 899 00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:42.489 be an actor. Oh yeah, yeah, my like my grandfather was a 900 00:58:42.610 --> 00:58:45.570 stage actor and so I would go see his plays all the time, and 901 00:58:45.730 --> 00:58:47.849 so I was like, I want to be in like I wanted to be 902 00:58:49.090 --> 00:58:51.489 ever since I was in kindergarten, like I knew what I wanted to do 903 00:58:51.610 --> 00:58:53.170 on to be an actor. Yeah, it's always pursuing it at an early 904 00:58:53.250 --> 00:58:59.679 age. And then I got into music and I actually I do music too, 905 00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:02.119 but I haven't recorded anything in a while. But yeah, so anything 906 00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:06.679 like artistic creative, like, Oh dude, you should do the same thing 907 00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.280 I'm going to try to do, not because everyone should do be like me, 908 00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:12.550 but because you're a musician and have that skill. So I'm going to 909 00:59:12.630 --> 00:59:15.150 put art to music and upload the whole fucking thing. It's like I'm going 910 00:59:15.190 --> 00:59:20.590 to take a video or screenshots of myself drawing a piece and then I'm going 911 00:59:20.630 --> 00:59:23.860 to go sit behind my electric drum kit and play original beats like those old 912 00:59:23.900 --> 00:59:29.699 fashioned like s intros to movies, or do literally and then something moves. 913 00:59:29.900 --> 00:59:31.579 I'm just going to make shit like that because I can. Dude, you 914 00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:35.739 can do your part, music, part, everything. Yeah, I mean 915 00:59:35.780 --> 00:59:39.130 it's really we're unlimited with the video photography, like there's there's project number nine 916 00:59:39.170 --> 00:59:44.809 for you. Another collection. I have some art that I that I made. 917 00:59:44.809 --> 00:59:50.170 I put music too, nice somewhere in in my collections. Yeah, 918 00:59:50.210 --> 00:59:53.840 I use a logic pro right. And Yeah, you make beats and keyboard 919 00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:58.159 noise, like what kind of music does it sound like? Like Hip Hop 920 00:59:58.159 --> 00:60:00.440 Beats? On Them I can make like hip hop beat, rights, like 921 00:60:00.559 --> 00:60:04.480 RMB, like techno type beats. Nice, another thing that I taught myself. 922 00:60:04.480 --> 00:60:06.960 I don't have to like read music, but same not. I've been 923 00:60:07.000 --> 00:60:08.590 popped in the music business for years. It doesn't. You don't have to 924 00:60:08.670 --> 00:60:13.429 read music. Strangely, it's a it's a ear thing, it is. 925 00:60:13.510 --> 00:60:15.909 Yeah, and so, yeah, like I'm even like a SAG member, 926 00:60:16.110 --> 00:60:19.789 like screen actors. Good. Oh, yeah, we'red what you used to 927 00:60:19.829 --> 00:60:22.099 do? What you do to get to your Sade Card? Yeah, so, 928 00:60:22.619 --> 00:60:25.860 when we were in we were living in New Jersey like a few years 929 00:60:25.860 --> 00:60:30.579 ago and I was I started up doing background where. Yep, an extra, 930 00:60:30.739 --> 00:60:34.579 you know, and so I was doing a bunch of that. Nice. 931 00:60:34.659 --> 00:60:36.969 It's pretty good, Hay, isn't it? For do not much, 932 00:60:37.010 --> 00:60:38.889 because you got to slip around on union. I was non union, so 933 00:60:39.010 --> 00:60:44.489 I wasn't making as much. But yeah, I was eating great. Yeah, 934 00:60:44.769 --> 00:60:46.090 set. Fuck, yeah, crowd, this is that time. Yeah, 935 00:60:46.690 --> 00:60:49.769 you're going to eat, and a lot of times eat really good. 936 00:60:49.849 --> 00:60:52.760 Yep, and you get a lot of times get paid for this, sitting 937 00:60:52.800 --> 00:60:58.440 on your ass like literally hurry up and wait. Yeah. So at the 938 00:60:58.559 --> 00:61:02.280 time, like I didn't really know about SAG or Aftra. Yeah, but 939 00:61:02.639 --> 00:61:07.510 Um, so one was saying that if you get into after now, at 940 00:61:07.590 --> 00:61:14.309 that time, you can get grandfathered into screen actors. Okay, well, 941 00:61:14.389 --> 00:61:16.829 I got into after that, you, and I think I paid like, 942 00:61:17.269 --> 00:61:20.980 I don't even know, like fifteen hundred hour. I forgot exactly how much 943 00:61:20.980 --> 00:61:23.059 it was. Yeah, but once that SAG and after merged, Yep, 944 00:61:23.139 --> 00:61:28.099 you are in. I was in Nice and be into SAG. Originally, 945 00:61:28.139 --> 00:61:31.969 to be in a sag you had to either get cast for speaking roll or 946 00:61:32.050 --> 00:61:37.690 you had to get like three waivers nonunion waivers and then you can be eligible, 947 00:61:37.530 --> 00:61:39.969 only eligible. You'll pay a lot of money. Yeah, I'll right 948 00:61:40.170 --> 00:61:44.849 grandfathered in. So, yeah, that is that's a card thing to get 949 00:61:44.889 --> 00:61:49.039 into. For people that don't know the acting industry generally, to get a 950 00:61:49.079 --> 00:61:53.840 SAG card you need to have an acting a speaking role, but you can't 951 00:61:53.960 --> 00:61:58.239 get a speaking roll often without a SAG card. Hey, you got a 952 00:61:58.280 --> 00:62:02.269 Alec Monopoly Shirt on. That's awesome. Yep, there it is, BRO 953 00:62:02.949 --> 00:62:06.989 official. I've seen his qr code and everything. It's got a SAG after 954 00:62:07.030 --> 00:62:12.230 a card. Look at these. These are Oh oh, dude, just 955 00:62:12.510 --> 00:62:15.230 just recurry each year. Yeah, you got to recurry. Yeah, you 956 00:62:15.269 --> 00:62:19.219 gotta pay the Dude. But I haven't Penn and I haven't done anything in 957 00:62:19.340 --> 00:62:22.099 a while, but I will not let that go. Fuck no, that's 958 00:62:22.219 --> 00:62:25.300 just like that's stupid to do. Yeah, dude, that's awesome, a 959 00:62:25.380 --> 00:62:30.650 SAG membership. Like yeah, because eventually I I want to get back into 960 00:62:30.650 --> 00:62:31.929 it. So yeah, that's next level. If you can get fame, 961 00:62:32.010 --> 00:62:36.409 you can turn all your project into your dreams. Yeah, I mean like 962 00:62:36.610 --> 00:62:39.849 even when you're sagging, you just do background work. Yep, that's good 963 00:62:39.889 --> 00:62:43.610 money too. Oh, yeah, hundreds of day. That's why movies cost 964 00:62:43.650 --> 00:62:45.719 so much to go see people, is because they're paying every single person in 965 00:62:45.880 --> 00:62:50.559 that background couple hundred bucks a day. Yeah, and if you're a SAG 966 00:62:50.639 --> 00:62:52.639 member and you're doing the background, word like you can make really good and 967 00:62:52.719 --> 00:63:00.309 actually I got a nypd police uniform when we were up there. Legit, 968 00:63:00.429 --> 00:63:02.670 man, you could. Yeah, because they pay you extra, like if 969 00:63:02.670 --> 00:63:07.670 you're wearing if you invest in your own uniform, okay, cool, because 970 00:63:07.710 --> 00:63:10.269 they need that in the background sometimes. Yeay. So I if you are 971 00:63:10.269 --> 00:63:15.219 a SAG member, you could actually go to the precinct in New York City 972 00:63:15.900 --> 00:63:19.860 and buy a real police uniform. Wow, that's wild, which is insane. 973 00:63:19.900 --> 00:63:22.300 Yeah, no, they don't really. They can't give you the real 974 00:63:22.380 --> 00:63:27.170 bad course. So I have like an NyPa to uniform and I use it 975 00:63:27.210 --> 00:63:31.769 a few times for like blue blood's sure, and then shortly after that we 976 00:63:31.809 --> 00:63:36.530 ended up, we had to move out of New Jersey, and so everything's 977 00:63:36.530 --> 00:63:38.329 on the background or with that, but eventually that's cool. Yeah, make 978 00:63:38.369 --> 00:63:43.159 it with this NMT. When I make it with this NF, definitely have 979 00:63:43.719 --> 00:63:50.199 financial freedom. Maybe we'll get another house like somewhere like I don't know. 980 00:63:50.320 --> 00:63:52.480 Yeah, you never know what comes dude. I was listening to Kanye on 981 00:63:53.320 --> 00:63:58.269 drink champs. I think, just talking talking this, that's a bipolar. 982 00:63:58.989 --> 00:64:01.750 He definitely does like people with buypolar we see it in other people, even 983 00:64:01.789 --> 00:64:06.110 if they don't want to acknowledge it for whatever political reasons or entertainment reasons. 984 00:64:06.230 --> 00:64:11.019 You know people anyway, but that's not really a secret. But that fuckers 985 00:64:11.019 --> 00:64:13.739 got a great point. I love his new thing. So when he was 986 00:64:13.820 --> 00:64:16.860 living in the Mercedes stadium, that wasn't a thing for him. He wasn't 987 00:64:16.860 --> 00:64:19.260 trying to make a show out of he's all. I live wherever. My 988 00:64:19.420 --> 00:64:24.289 whole goal in life now is to have friends in every city never pay for 989 00:64:24.369 --> 00:64:26.889 anything. Like I want to go to a restaurant in New York and people 990 00:64:26.929 --> 00:64:30.449 say hey, Kanye, come in, will feed you for free. Hey, 991 00:64:30.570 --> 00:64:31.730 come over to my house, you can sleep for free. So his 992 00:64:31.929 --> 00:64:35.530 whole dream now is to just live in a backpack. HMM. I'm like, 993 00:64:35.650 --> 00:64:38.599 well, your trip, Dude, but I'm like I get it. 994 00:64:39.719 --> 00:64:42.880 Be Nice to have that kind of cash to do it and up on it 995 00:64:43.000 --> 00:64:48.320 like like I'll see you know, like even Gary V. I'm like he 996 00:64:48.599 --> 00:64:53.030 must be like manic or hypomanic right now, like yeah, you know, 997 00:64:53.230 --> 00:64:55.949 yeah, yeah, no, for sure, it's when they throw when all 998 00:64:55.989 --> 00:64:58.949 of a sudden they turn dark. I'm like Oh, these definitely, because 999 00:64:59.309 --> 00:65:03.190 they could be hyperactive, maybe a dhd manic. But Connie's special, for 1000 00:65:03.309 --> 00:65:06.300 sure. On you. Oh yeah, he's, I mean he's been delusion. 1001 00:65:06.340 --> 00:65:09.860 He's got both sides. Yeah, and well, you talked about earlier, 1002 00:65:09.900 --> 00:65:14.380 when you get that that grandiosity, the ego inflation, I can fucking 1003 00:65:14.420 --> 00:65:18.860 rule the world. He gets that pretty frequently apparently. But then again he's 1004 00:65:19.019 --> 00:65:21.570 it's not horrible like you and I suffer from it. So like, oh, 1005 00:65:21.610 --> 00:65:25.090 he's just the regular dude. The rest of the world seems to demonize 1006 00:65:25.090 --> 00:65:27.570 him because of that, I think, and I'm like that's not fair. 1007 00:65:27.610 --> 00:65:30.409 That guy's in a bad position. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, 1008 00:65:30.489 --> 00:65:34.289 and Um, it's a double edged sword. Yeah, yeah, for 1009 00:65:34.409 --> 00:65:42.119 sure though, because you have that like creative mind and there's so many great 1010 00:65:42.760 --> 00:65:47.199 leaders and artists and actors and all, you know, people scientists throughout history 1011 00:65:47.360 --> 00:65:53.389 that have this type of mind, you know, and it's just, you 1012 00:65:53.510 --> 00:65:58.030 know, it's just, it's a blessing and it can a double Ed Sword. 1013 00:65:58.309 --> 00:66:00.070 Yeah, no, yeah, I dig it. Like. But to 1014 00:66:00.230 --> 00:66:02.949 your point earlier, I've definitely lean. If I had to choose, it 1015 00:66:02.989 --> 00:66:06.260 would always be manic. I have no use for depression. I have many 1016 00:66:06.300 --> 00:66:11.139 uses for mania. Yeah, it. Do you get the depressed part at 1017 00:66:11.179 --> 00:66:14.860 all? Yeah, I have this running my mixtape. It's kind of fucked 1018 00:66:14.860 --> 00:66:16.380 up. So I have this recurring like I feel like I hate myself, 1019 00:66:16.500 --> 00:66:19.489 like the true depression thing, but it's working. Depression, I get up 1020 00:66:19.489 --> 00:66:23.969 and I can fucking put on my manic front side. That's how I'm similar 1021 00:66:24.090 --> 00:66:28.170 to that. Like, yeah, it, but it'll be like, for 1022 00:66:28.289 --> 00:66:31.289 example, lately I'm like, I'm like, I feel like I'm not getting 1023 00:66:31.289 --> 00:66:34.559 anywhere with this nftee thing. Yeah, but I have to keep pushing. 1024 00:66:34.679 --> 00:66:39.199 You know, the mania helps me keep yeah, maybe I do what this 1025 00:66:39.400 --> 00:66:42.320 PFP project, because that's what's you know, that's what's really popping off. 1026 00:66:43.960 --> 00:66:46.429 But yeah, maintain your sanity. Dude. You're on the right you're on 1027 00:66:46.469 --> 00:66:50.550 the right path and I think you're going too right. Speed right and put 1028 00:66:50.590 --> 00:66:57.550 it out. What do you call it? I sold one piece great congratsman's 1029 00:66:57.550 --> 00:67:01.099 from I was in a clubhouse group and I told my story and P for 1030 00:67:01.420 --> 00:67:05.019 like Holy Shit, like wow, like that's crazy that you've gone through all 1031 00:67:05.099 --> 00:67:12.460 that and so some it was actually my birthday even better, buddy, even 1032 00:67:12.500 --> 00:67:15.460 better. What a great year was my birthday and one of the people in 1033 00:67:15.500 --> 00:67:17.530 the audience, you know, and there's a lot of people in attitude space, 1034 00:67:17.610 --> 00:67:19.929 that have a lot of money. Yeah, for sure. You know, 1035 00:67:20.210 --> 00:67:23.769 then you have to have some kind of money to be able to buy 1036 00:67:23.849 --> 00:67:28.449 these expensive pieces, because loudest is not cheap. NOPE, although when you're 1037 00:67:28.449 --> 00:67:32.119 when you're it's so crazy. When you compare eth to Fiat, it's just 1038 00:67:32.320 --> 00:67:35.079 like it's like it's you know what I mean, it's like still weird. 1039 00:67:35.119 --> 00:67:38.880 Yeah, yeah, it's weird right. It doesn't seem like when you have 1040 00:67:39.000 --> 00:67:41.639 like a little bit of eat. The a little bit of eat, the 1041 00:67:41.679 --> 00:67:45.349 way it looks is comparing it to feed out, it's like it's just my 1042 00:67:45.510 --> 00:67:46.989 it's we it is. Somebody said You should buy a ledger wall. They 1043 00:67:47.030 --> 00:67:53.190 only cost point zero to eve and like, Oh, yeah, will you 1044 00:67:53.230 --> 00:67:57.269 look at that way? It comes to that when I first was doing this 1045 00:67:57.469 --> 00:68:01.420 and I listed up one of my nft's, I added a zero and I 1046 00:68:01.659 --> 00:68:04.860 sold it for life. Forgot how much I sold it for, but it 1047 00:68:04.940 --> 00:68:08.139 was too cheap, you know? Cause, yes, yes, get getting 1048 00:68:08.179 --> 00:68:10.340 used to like this. How many Zeros you put in? That's right. 1049 00:68:10.380 --> 00:68:13.250 Yeah, you always got to keep an eye and rushing and your foae mowing 1050 00:68:14.210 --> 00:68:16.210 and you want to sell something real quick to jump into something else. Yeah, 1051 00:68:16.729 --> 00:68:20.970 you can make a mistake and the people them people in like, what 1052 00:68:21.050 --> 00:68:24.409 do you call it? I guess in clubhouse. They're all talking about what 1053 00:68:24.569 --> 00:68:27.960 the project is. Somebody made a mistake. So if she sometimes you can 1054 00:68:28.039 --> 00:68:30.640 get good deals if you sit by like some people. A lot of times 1055 00:68:30.680 --> 00:68:32.960 people do that. Yeah, they'll point out a good project that has a 1056 00:68:33.039 --> 00:68:36.199 mistake somewhere and there of a pricing mistake. Yeah, and you could see 1057 00:68:36.239 --> 00:68:40.439 somebody, somebody messed up. Yeah, and that hurts and you're hearing the 1058 00:68:40.520 --> 00:68:43.390 other one and yeah, hurts the floor for sure, because people just started. 1059 00:68:43.430 --> 00:68:46.869 Because the floor, it hurts like your yeah, your real pocketbook. 1060 00:68:47.310 --> 00:68:50.949 You made that mistake and I made that mistake one time, but now, 1061 00:68:51.109 --> 00:68:55.550 like when I'm listing something, I like double check. Yeah, it's like 1062 00:68:55.630 --> 00:68:58.979 a ten times mistake. Zero. Right, it's the difference between a hundred 1063 00:68:58.979 --> 00:69:01.500 bucks and a thousand bucks. It could be a big mistake. Yeah, 1064 00:69:01.500 --> 00:69:06.939 because the thing was is I sold. This is when I first got into 1065 00:69:08.100 --> 00:69:11.409 trying to, you know, buy and sell them than up to flip them. 1066 00:69:11.489 --> 00:69:15.489 Yeah, I bought something just because I was like I think this could 1067 00:69:15.489 --> 00:69:17.729 do good, right, and I listed it. I woke up in the 1068 00:69:17.770 --> 00:69:21.010 morning check my email and it was like it's sold. What you like to 1069 00:69:21.090 --> 00:69:24.680 Queen? I was just crazy, like yeah, like, I think I 1070 00:69:25.439 --> 00:69:28.800 spent like a hundred or something like that, because it was really not a 1071 00:69:28.920 --> 00:69:33.840 big artist and he started blowing up and all the sudden like it's sold, 1072 00:69:33.960 --> 00:69:39.909 it's sold to like crazy, right, almost two thousand sixteen hundred hours, 1073 00:69:39.989 --> 00:69:43.350 right. So I had that eight and I was like all right, I'm 1074 00:69:43.390 --> 00:69:49.189 gonna buy something's gonna buy something now. And I bought something and then when 1075 00:69:49.189 --> 00:69:54.899 I went to list it, I added an extra zero. Oh Damn Dude, 1076 00:69:55.659 --> 00:70:00.060 and I was yeah, I was like man, but uh, butverybody 1077 00:70:00.100 --> 00:70:02.340 else. Yeah, well, it's it's hard lesson, but it's a well, 1078 00:70:02.500 --> 00:70:05.140 it's a well, it's a deeply learned lesson, let's put it that 1079 00:70:05.260 --> 00:70:09.569 way. You won't forget. Yeah, I have not been scammed, like 1080 00:70:09.930 --> 00:70:13.210 you know, that's one. You know that happens a lot in the space 1081 00:70:13.289 --> 00:70:15.250 to when you're new. Yeah, I could imagine. I don't know. 1082 00:70:15.449 --> 00:70:19.729 I'm just skeptical most shit. I'm like, I'm not clicking anything unless I 1083 00:70:19.850 --> 00:70:24.159 know. Yeah, that kind of thing. But on discord, when they 1084 00:70:24.199 --> 00:70:28.039 want to verify you, like, you know with that, what is it? 1085 00:70:28.800 --> 00:70:31.119 Something bought? Yeah, I never I'm not going to very verify bought 1086 00:70:31.159 --> 00:70:34.199 thing. Yeah, verify by it. I'm not. I'm not doing that, 1087 00:70:34.399 --> 00:70:36.270 not but at all. For that Shit. It might be legit, 1088 00:70:36.390 --> 00:70:40.109 but that's a I could do without it. That's where a lot of people 1089 00:70:40.229 --> 00:70:43.590 get messed up, the newbies that get onto discord. Yeah, Oh, 1090 00:70:43.630 --> 00:70:45.750 yeah, discords a shit show to me. I just I have a problem 1091 00:70:45.789 --> 00:70:49.979 with like simplicity and minimalism and discord. Just, Whoa, it's like going 1092 00:70:50.060 --> 00:70:54.539 to a digital jungle. Yes, yes, especially in really like if you 1093 00:70:54.579 --> 00:70:58.340 ever go to be friends discord and you've been that one. Yeah, it's 1094 00:70:58.380 --> 00:71:00.380 a show. Guy, to me, this is I'm like, what, 1095 00:71:00.659 --> 00:71:03.140 how could you even read this? Yeah, yeah, that's wild man, 1096 00:71:03.770 --> 00:71:06.250 so cool. A Dude, I really appreciate your time. You're, like 1097 00:71:06.289 --> 00:71:09.609 I said, you're always welcome back here. I usually promote the hell out 1098 00:71:09.609 --> 00:71:12.090 of this for like the next three or four days and then I start working 1099 00:71:12.130 --> 00:71:15.130 on next week's podcast. Awesome. A lot of times, like I'm considering 1100 00:71:16.449 --> 00:71:19.960 chopping these in the smaller bits and putting them up as and FT's maybe on 1101 00:71:21.600 --> 00:71:26.239 object or something like that, where the low gas fee so off, just 1102 00:71:26.319 --> 00:71:29.760 because I'm curious, like what happens if you put a fucking podcast in and 1103 00:71:29.880 --> 00:71:33.270 F tea, I mean doesn't matter, not be there for posterity sake a 1104 00:71:33.390 --> 00:71:38.310 thousand years from now. Okay, yeah, while true, swhere is going 1105 00:71:38.350 --> 00:71:44.270 to be like on Youtube or these go out to damn itunes, spotify, 1106 00:71:44.829 --> 00:71:48.420 audible, Amazon. Iheart all those places, all the audio, all the 1107 00:71:48.460 --> 00:71:53.659 listening places, basically audible. Yeah, yeah, strange as I got onto 1108 00:71:53.659 --> 00:71:57.260 audible about a year ago. Me Too. I love digital books and I 1109 00:71:57.340 --> 00:71:59.939 drive a lot for my job, so I'm always listening to new shit. 1110 00:72:00.060 --> 00:72:02.850 Well, mostly it's been any te podcast lately, but that's how I learned 1111 00:72:02.930 --> 00:72:06.850 so fast. That's how you get uploaded or on boarded to something so quickly 1112 00:72:06.890 --> 00:72:10.409 as if you just put your mind to it, you watch it. fucking 1113 00:72:10.489 --> 00:72:14.289 five days of youtube videos or binge, listened to hours and hours to podcast. 1114 00:72:15.130 --> 00:72:17.119 So yeah, I'd like having a just something. Normally I don't even 1115 00:72:17.119 --> 00:72:21.319 turn on the cameras because sometimes the if you close your eyes and have a 1116 00:72:21.359 --> 00:72:25.640 conversation, it's a slightly different conversation. So I'll test this. When I 1117 00:72:25.680 --> 00:72:27.680 go back to listen to it, I'll say how yeah, that worked out 1118 00:72:27.720 --> 00:72:30.510 just fine, because a lot of the people I deal with and work with 1119 00:72:30.630 --> 00:72:34.350 are in the mental health space. I just give them the option of no 1120 00:72:34.470 --> 00:72:39.270 camera on their side because body issues and a lot of people have body issues 1121 00:72:39.310 --> 00:72:42.029 they don't want to be seen on camera at all. Me, I mean 1122 00:72:42.149 --> 00:72:46.500 this is this has been awesome, like very natural, like and nothing didn't 1123 00:72:46.500 --> 00:72:50.220 seem like awkward. Yeah, yeah, now, you do great and I 1124 00:72:50.260 --> 00:72:54.300 think you'd make an awesome podcast host of your own. So, you know, 1125 00:72:54.579 --> 00:72:57.500 throw that on another priority pile of list of things to do too. 1126 00:72:57.659 --> 00:73:00.489 But Man, you've got your SAG card, you've got a great present presentation 1127 00:73:00.569 --> 00:73:05.569 voice and you're very kind of focused on what you're speaking about to so it's 1128 00:73:05.609 --> 00:73:09.930 not a lot of stumbling around. So I think I'd probably heard that in 1129 00:73:10.090 --> 00:73:13.039 the twitter spaces which I reached out to you. Like, I didn't reach 1130 00:73:13.039 --> 00:73:15.680 out to anybody else than twitter space because they were kind of boring to me. 1131 00:73:15.199 --> 00:73:18.159 But when you start popping off. I'm like a guys, something special 1132 00:73:18.279 --> 00:73:21.840 there. So I appreciate you, man, and keep up all the fucking 1133 00:73:21.880 --> 00:73:26.560 killer work. And remind people. Do you have a website up yet? 1134 00:73:28.829 --> 00:73:31.029 Just pointed straight on twitter. Okay, I don't have a website right now, 1135 00:73:31.189 --> 00:73:38.430 so go to twitter, metaverse and ft art and you'll find them. 1136 00:73:38.590 --> 00:73:41.500 Take it. Yeah, let me just double check that Roquick. I pretty 1137 00:73:41.539 --> 00:73:45.300 sure met it first. And FC art. Yeah, that's the handle. 1138 00:73:45.500 --> 00:73:49.220 So that's where manic keeps up all of his current social links. So jump 1139 00:73:49.300 --> 00:73:53.020 in there check out his art. I'm not also going to put all the 1140 00:73:53.020 --> 00:73:55.810 links down below in the show notes. So if you're clicking around on your 1141 00:73:55.850 --> 00:73:59.090 phone or whatever, you want to go see some fantastic art by manic, 1142 00:73:59.529 --> 00:74:03.130 click on those links down below and we'll see you next week at the EMO 1143 00:74:03.289 --> 00:74:15.680 Dojo. FUCKING A and I know I've been super hyped about the nfts these 1144 00:74:15.760 --> 00:74:20.680 past the three or so episodes, and I apologize to my longtime listeners who 1145 00:74:20.720 --> 00:74:25.350 don't give a fuck about NFTS and also to my friends who have been harassing 1146 00:74:25.949 --> 00:74:30.270 to make their creative works into nfts when they just men don't really feel like 1147 00:74:30.350 --> 00:74:33.390 it. So I apologize for that and I will catch you up to speed 1148 00:74:33.470 --> 00:74:38.229 on this because there is some drama on the nft twitter I have to talk 1149 00:74:38.310 --> 00:74:41.460 about. So, in all the hype I've been talking about for the past 1150 00:74:41.500 --> 00:74:45.939 three episodes, I need to warn you about the downside of nfts on the 1151 00:74:46.060 --> 00:74:50.899 next episode coming right up. So I will post this episode up on Monday 1152 00:74:50.899 --> 00:74:57.250 night and hopefully by Thanksgiving, Tuesday, Wednesday or whatever, I will have 1153 00:74:57.449 --> 00:75:01.890 that second episode about NFT's like the dark side of Nfts, just for some 1154 00:75:02.010 --> 00:75:04.689 balance. All right, cool. Well, I'm glad you made it. 1155 00:75:05.130 --> 00:75:10.720 Look forward to seeing you on twitter or whatever. Send me an email if 1156 00:75:10.760 --> 00:75:17.079 you want. John at HMM EMO dojocom. How simple? All right, 1157 00:75:17.159 --> 00:75:58.449 cool, take care. Bye. And now back to the wall. 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