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Hey friends, welcome back. I'm
John. This is live from Emo Dojo.
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Today we have an especially awesome guest, somebody I heard on twitter spaces.
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You know, a lot of times, if you want to get known
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as an artist, you kind of
have to raise your voice, and in
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this case he spoke up. He
raised his hand to speak in a twitter
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space as I was listening to and
immediately I'm like, Oh yeah, that
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guy should be on the podcast.
So he goes by the artist handle of
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manic and you can see they're in
the title of the episode. How he
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styleizes that really cool. He's got
a wild story, maybe familiar to some
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of you, especially those of you
who have experienced in mental hospitals and that
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sort of thing, and it's really
exciting. So we're going to talk about
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his journey from, you know,
his initial diagnosis all the way till today
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and what he's working on and into
the future with digital art and NFT's in
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that space. So it's super cool. I'm glad you made it. Sit
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back and relax. This is live
from Emo Dojo. Might be kind of
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overwhelming to some, but I think
you empathize a lot because you have similar
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conditions to what we have. How
much do you want to talk about that?
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Do how far do you want to
tell? I'm I'm I'm down to
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just talk, man like. I'm
just trying to really make it. I'm
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trying to make it. Yeah,
like totally, and I understand. To
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be able to make it in anywhere, you have to put yourself out there.
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That's right. Unless you know,
then you're no one's gonna know about
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you unless they happened to discover you, and Yep, they share it,
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but how it Bo that's rare.
You gotta put yourself out there and just
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tell your story, be real,
and then you know, because I heard
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that. Really it's old. People
usually buy into like stories. Yep,
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my wife's and was in the marketing
and I told her my story and she
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was like blown away because it's quite
the story, and she's like that's that's
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what you need to tell right.
It's remarkable. That's like you know,
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that's your brand, that's you,
and people, Yep, will buy into
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that. Yeah, it's so true, dude, especially with people like like
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us. I assume you just had
a wild childhood and all kind of stuff.
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Will get to that in a minute, because I really want to hear
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that part like how you became you, but man as if you, if
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you're raise that way and you kind
of fucked up in the head. A
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lot of times we'RE STILL TRAINED BY
SOCIETY TO FIT into that society. So
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you just go in this you live
in this conflicted life for many, many
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years until you realize like Oh,
I've got to speak up, otherwise I'll
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just get shut to the wall.
And you see what happens to people that
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just don't speak up. They end
up dead or in hospitals, things like
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that. So good for you on
speaking up. So how did you come
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to adopt the named Manic, for
example? Look, are you going to
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call you that for sure, because
I've been like peeping on your dead that's
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Um. Yeah, my real name
is cool, cool, um, but
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since being in this whole and FT
space, I wanted to have a name.
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Yeah, and the name Manic really
fits me well. Right, right,
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I am like literally I have,
you know, have bipolar, obviously,
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and I have it where I'm like
mostly manic. Yeah, same,
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which is to me it's better than
having the depression part, a hundred percent.
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That's that's really rough. So yeah, like I'm at, I'm like
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a lot of times mannic and I'm
on medicine and everything. It's just still
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breaks through. So, Yep,
that's where I was like, all right,
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well, manic. I like the
way it sounds like the name and
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it describes, describe as like my
personality and you know, yeah, I
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love it, love it. I
have a marketing background too, so I'm
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into words, the shapes of letters, the whole thing. I fucking Love
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Manic. Thank you, man.
Yeah, and I like and when I
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don't, you probably seen it on
my twitter and the way I did it
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was, is, with the capital
m lower case, a capital. Oh
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Yeah, Lord, I see,
and I is added those like forward slashes
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there ord. Yeah, and I
was like that's yes, it's my artistic
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mind. I was like, okay, yeah, can't be just the word
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by itself, can't be common upper
case. The rest lower case, do
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some weird shit, and who would
have thought to put the slashes? So
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actually, when I created the file
for this particular broadcast, I copied and
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paste it directly from your twitter accounts. I got it right because as an
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artist, a lot of times that's
all you have in the beginning is some
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differentiating factor that gets people to say, Oh, this isn't the mannic I'm
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used to. This is something new
or, you know, whatever your name
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happens to be. So that's pretty
awesome and I like to tell people listening
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right up front. So, man, it's got a couple of different collections
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on Opensee, which is the market
place for digital artwork called NFTS. Can
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you do you operate two or did
I just happen to find one and then
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you change the name? Since I
clicked it last because the link on your
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twitter by I went to abstract visions
last night and it goes to something else
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today on guard. Yeah, seventy
seven. Yeah, like being that I
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have like my creative mind, I'm
always creating, and so it's really hard
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for me to like focus on like
one collection. And yet, you know,
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so I like and you know,
I know like for the most part
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in Nft it's important to have collections, you know, and try to keep
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things organize. It's just harder for
me way. So I had this I
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started this new auction and it's going
to be seventy seven pieces. Nice,
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just to keep it small and more
focused for now, right. But I
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mean I have the abstract visions one
and then I have sculpts by manic dope.
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I don't know if you've seen that. I have not seen that one.
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I have a lot. I have
a lot of stuff. Yeah,
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sculpted by Mannic is, I do. I use blender. I taught myself.
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I'm blender Nice. You know the
program yet ready? Yep, that's
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that's no joke doing so. It's
no joke to teach yourself d software.
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So, my God, yeah,
it my wife. She I was literally
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on the computer for hours and hours, tutor of the tutorial. Yep,
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and it's figuring it out and for
the most yeah, I mean you could
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see my work. It's I named
it sculpts by Manic. I love.
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I had like those and then I
have I have just a mix of stuff.
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So, but with the avant garde. I'm going to make that seventy
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seven pieces. Right now I have
twenty one pieces up, but I love
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it. Based when people get to
know me and discover my art, Yep,
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they'll discover I've just so much.
And the same I was just talking
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to a real life artist friend of
mine last night and our biggest thing we
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both have, well, I have
bipolar, we both have Adhd, and
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the whole thing is like, well, fuck, how do we get all
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this shit organized the way the market
expects it compared to how my brain wants
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to display it? Because I'm like
wait, I'm a painter, I'm a
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fucking drummer. I want to go
record some mpegs and just put up drum
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beats. I'm like God, I
need a new drum. I need a
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fucking account, a collection for that. And then you start running into gas
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fees and left and right and like
well, shit, I can't have all
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the fucking collections. I need to
get started. So then the weird process
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of having to shoot. I tell
her it's like you have to take your
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puppies out behind the shed and shoot
the extra ones in the head, and
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she's all know, and I'm like
no, you got to pick one project.
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But that's just kind of the conversations
we have. But I can't and
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she can't like like I got them
all planned out and then I need to
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jump from one each week, because
some weeks I'll just get bored of photography,
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a board of painting or whatever.
So it's nice to have it.
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So having any kind of you know, let's call it chaos going under our
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head. It makes it both extra
important to organize but also doubly hard.
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So now I appreciate that you got
things sorted out to like that. Yes,
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so the newest thing is the avant
garde one and it's going to avant
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guard seventy seven. It's going to
be seventy seven pieces, and that's what
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I'm working on right now. And
so, yeah, that's the same time,
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whenever I can, I'm still working
on teaching myself the D art,
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which I'm really, really interested in, and then it's going to be like
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eventually more into the animation part of
a really, when I first got into
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NFT's I stumbled across people. Right, that's sixty nine million dollars sail.
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Yeah, and like I was into
like making money online and different ways to
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make money online, and so I
just heard about that and when I heard
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about that I was like wow,
like seriously, right, yeah, like
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a Jpeg, like I had to, you know, do some graphically,
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I told myself, graphic design,
because I do print on demand, you
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know, for like Oh, yeah, so art. Sure, yeah,
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I just products. I'm on a
I am on a platform I Amazon called
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merged by Amazon. Nice. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah,
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so I have some success with that, but I've always been researching how to
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make money online. I even stumble
across Bitcoin, like way back, like
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I think I got into it like
in the beginning. Sweet, good for
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you, I just didn't buy enough. You know who wouldn't it? Would
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have known? Yeah, yeah,
you had your bets, but sometimes,
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like damn, I wish I would
have hedged a lot higher on that bet.
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But good for you for knowing,
like, because that's that takes a
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real visionary to accept a new entire
new constructs. It's like saying, Hey,
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dude, give me your gold and
I'm going to give you this piece
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of paper. It's no, it's
really worth your gold, and you're like,
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the fuck off, I'm keeping my
gold. And it's the same way.
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You have to like suspend belief to
think that digital money will be the
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future. And once you do,
though, it's clear that it's nothing.
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Will else will be the future.
It's only crypto in the future. Yeah,
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and so, like, yeah,
when I get into something I like,
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I go all in and I want
to be the best at it and
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know all about it. But I
tend with the bipolar sometimes. On mine
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wants to hop to this and that
and this and that, but I'm really
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starting to realize I got to just
stay focused and not spread myself too thin,
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you know, maybe getting to one, two three things and just be
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like become like an expert in those
areas. Yeah, or at least become
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known for that, you know,
as your voice or your style as an
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artist. Yeah, yeah, for
sure, for sure. Tell me how
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you became, how it came to
your knowledge that you have something wrong with
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your head, with your mind,
like how long, how many years ago
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back did you find out? Okay, so I grew up in long on
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New York up until I was fifteen
years old and my family decided it was
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it was good. My grandparents moved
south Florida and New York was getting more
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expensive, so my grandparents were like, come to Florida, it's cheaper here
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and beautiful all that. So I
basically had to leave, like my girlfriend
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at the time, my friends,
which was, of course, you know,
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upsetting, shocking. Yes, traumatic. After Florida and we're settling in,
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I was not happy, and so
I was in a depression, Yep,
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and I was like wanted to sleep
all the time, have my shades
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down and you know, yeah,
Cave live in. Yeah, and then
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all of a sudden it went from
really down to like really up. Yeah,
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I didn't really catch it, HMM, but I a neighbor of hours
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her daughter has had on bipolar okay, and was like I think your son
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like has something. I think you
need to take them to, you know,
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the hospital and you know, have
them evaluated. Yeah, because I
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was like thinking, like I was
thinking things that weren't true, like my
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self esteem was like Oh yeah,
yeah, you know, like we're sure
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gone through that fasture. So it
is wild. Yeah, and so I
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was brought to this mental hospital in
West Palm Beach and, yeah, I
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went into a fullblown manic episode and
I was thinking these things that weren't real,
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like I had special powers and yeah, all that kind. was in
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a fullblown manic episode. And like
they originally diagnosed me with schizophrenia. Yeah,
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that happens to sometimes, for sure, especially when you have an a
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manic episode in the doctor doesn't know
that a true manic episode looks very much
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like schizophrenia. Yeah, and skiso
effective, they said, Yep, and
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so I was in there for a
few weeks and then they were like okay,
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well, he had his diagnosis.
Is bipolarum. So I got out
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of there and from sixteen years old
up until twenty something years old, I
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was in and out of mental hospitals
and drug rehabs and, you know,
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it was a really just tough time. Like it was like a revolving door,
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like, yes, mental hospital,
like they I like was growing up
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there. I was like in and
out as they knew your name, they
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knew mine, they knew money.
They really, as you know, man
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its back. Yeah, I mean
they just and it's common, and I
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would see people that I saw before
and, yeah, it's just a revolving
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door. And then when I was
like, I don't even know, nineteen
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or something like that, I was
that was doing ecstasy and coke, not
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sleeping. Yeah, man, cocaine
for a bipolar person is like heaven and
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Hell. Yeah, I mean for
like ten minutes it's like heaven. Yeah,
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and I mean if you're when you're
already manic, like you're already up.
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Yeah, anyway, so, like
ecstasy, coke, no sleep,
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and I was I remember having like
my heart was like racing and no sleep.
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I came home and my grandmother took
me to the emergency room and I
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thought I died. Well, WHOA. I thought I had died and I
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was like, when they took me
to the emergency hospital, I thought I
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was getting transported to purgatory. Oh, Whoa, and I had this whole
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thing in my mind and I was
telling my family that I'm I'm dead,
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like that's mild. Yeah, yeah, this whole crazy thing. So they
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brought me to this hospital and I
was in there for like like the Max
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time you're allowed to be in the
in impatient hospital. I was there like
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three months. Holy Moli Dude,
that's a lot. Yeah, and I
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they couldn't stabilize me. I was in
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my own land and and then they
were like, well, we can't keep
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This is what they told my family. Yeah, and so, yeah,
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I was brought to Pember Pine,
the State Hospital in Miami, and
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I was there in a place that
was not fun. Yeah, because when
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you're right state hospital, you are
among the the craziest of crazies, for
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lack of the I mean get it's
a crude term, but yeah, getting
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around like like drooling and, yeah, attacking you, attacking staff. Yep,
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super medicated. People just zombied out
on downs and get lobbies and stuff.
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gained so much weight, I was
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but I always was like I would
draw. You know, we're still
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you inside. I was still be
inside with draw. I would even like
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write raps, you know, nice
poetry. Yeah, it was just living
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hell in there. And flip out. You end up in the pink room,
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right, you know, they lock
you in the room. And so
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I was in there for seven months
until they finally tried this last resort medication
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called Clasaro, and that snap me
out of stopping back into reality. Yeah,
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Wow, what is that? What
Yah is there? Does that drug
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have a different name? Is it
like I have a brand name. It's
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called Colazar. Real hell to check
it out. That sounds awesome. I'm
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sure a lot of our listener's that's
that's like the last resort medication. And
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Yeah, it's like it will make
you gain tons of weight and literally be
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drooling. So they got me.
They got me that and too bad to
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get back into reality. And then
they got me on Lamichtel. You have
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taken limis? Yeah, yeah,
and so I've been on that like years
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and I have been hospitalized for years
and there's been some close you know,
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some close calls for sure. Yeah, you seem really selfaware, though,
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like like you could probably vary a
ways that it's coming, like if a
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depression wave is coming, you could
probably tell and you probably know how to
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hunker down or mania is upon you. You kind of know the rules.
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You know, hide the guy,
hide the credit cards or that kind of
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stuff. Yeah, with the mania
I just got, I start realizing like
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I really have to make sure I
get sleep. That's yeah, yeah,
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and well, when I'm in these
creative mindsets and when you're in the NFT
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space, my God, which never
sleeps, obviously. Yeah, even if
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you don't have some form of mental
illness like you, you might get one,
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you might start getting it, because
it's is it's so fast paced.
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Overwhelmed at first, like I had
to pull back to dudecus. I got
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into it like two months ago.
I just I don't know, I found
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some mud and said hey, let's
check this out, and we just dove
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in. Within about a month I
felt like I was on acid. Every
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day I'm like Whoa, and having
experience with, you know, medication and
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support groups and therapy. I'm like, this is not healthy. I have
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to figure out why it's not healthy, why it's triggering me this way.
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So if anybody's listening and you have
any kind of mental illness or disorder and
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you're getting into NFT's just there's like
three different nfts in my mind. There
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are the multilevel marketing folks, there's
those, you know, high priced schemes
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going on, there are people that
are building legitimate communities as best as they
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can, and then there are folks
that are straight up artist like. Ah.
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So I always find myself, I
like to be in that category,
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like I'm there for the art,
for locking down copyrights into the future.
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Anything else I'm not that concerned about. I used to be a few weeks
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ago, and that's what was driving
me crazy. I felt like the rocket
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ships leaving and I'm not on it. I've got to get on the rocket
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ship. But now I've taken a
step back and realize, oh wait,
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my normal life was cool three months
ago before I discovered nfts. So just
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chill the fuck out, get back
to your art and, you know,
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don't let it get get carried away. Yeah, I mean it's definitely like
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emotional. Like, yeah, when
I first got into I got into the
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NFT space, like I said,
around the time people made that huge sell
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and I was dabbling with crypto and
like it was like around the dope,
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the time dozed coin. Oh,
yeah, hit five cents right then it
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like shot up to like almost seventy
cents. Yeah, like that. And
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so I was like heavy into the
Crypto for sure, and we call it
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I got some stellar looman's XCELM.
Yeah, okay, yeah, and then
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I was in a discord for the
first time and somebody from the discords,
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I mean, invite to clubhouse.
There it is. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, and then in clubhouse I
stumbled across and F t's Dot Tips Nice,
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and that was like okay. So
I would listen in these groups and
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learn and learn, and I was
like man, like you got to get
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this Meta mask wallet and so many
things. Yeah, that, and I
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was like, Oh my God.
So then I was on a mission to
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figure that out. Yeah, and
I figured all that out and now I'm
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like now I know, like if
somebody asked me how to get into it
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and do all this, I could
tell them exactly what to do. Yeah,
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that whole initially, like setting up
the wallet. I didn't know about
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seed phrases and it was so ridiculous. I was helping my friends set up
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her ledger last night, right her
hardware wallet, painting the ASS, and
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I just remember like Oh yeah,
when I set mine up, I like
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had a whole hour set aside and
I almost like told everyone in the room
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to shut up while I'm trying to
focus. And I live alone, dude,
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I live alone. I'm like his
shut up, I got a fucking
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do this. This might be my
millions I'm like dealing with right here.
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So it has that weird like intensity
when you start to address some of these
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things. I guess like to your
point, just find a loving soul that
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already knows about it and have them
try to walk you through each step,
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because it's fine. There's no yeah, and I've been like since, I'm
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so excited about him and telling like
everybody, like I honestly like won't shut
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up about nft. I can't,
dude, every time. And you're public
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right, you see something like that
would be fucking good. NFT right there.
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You should be yes, yes,
and my wife she's like, you
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know, I mean n ft land, and it's just like I really feel
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like I found my tribe. Yeah, I really feel like I found my
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tribe, which is amazing, and
now I feel like I really know what
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I want to do. That's the
most important thing. He yeah, I
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want to create art in this nft
space and just grow and get my name
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out there. And I mean right, I guess be Amos and Nipt yeah,
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or known or like have a living
known, like I don't need to
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be like super famous, but yeah, just have like a little tenzero fans
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on earth would be good for me
if I had tenzero people that were like
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fuck, yeah, that guy's awesome. That would yeah, yeah, you
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know, yeah, like. And
so, like I said, with Clubhouse,
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I was listening and listening and I
was creating art like a maniac,
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like, yeah, literally tea blender
and just just making so much art and
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putting it up on open sea,
like tons of art and art. I
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made some sales here and there,
which is so cool, because I wasn't
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even promoting it Nice Um, but
then I was like, okay, to
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really get my d really be successful, I also listened. I'm also big
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into like personal development. Yep,
you know, I listened to like Jim
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Ron and Oh, yeah, all, this is one of my favorites.
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Yeah, and so, you know, in order to be successful, you
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have to like put yourself out there, even if you're on call. Like
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Jim Rowan, when he was first
starting out, before he was doing public
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speaking, he was extremely nervous and, you know, scared to get up
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on state and talk, but the
more that he did it he became great.
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He would then he was became a
great public speaker. And so I
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was like, all right, it
can be denial day and I was like
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I'm just going to do it right
and it and it. I forgot how
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it came up. It was just
like the perfect time to like I got
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into them what he called the Crypto, I mean n FT called crypto pills.
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Okay, yeah, and like it
was a discussion and stuff like that,
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and and somehow that my story came
up nice and I told it and
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they were like, you got you
know, you need to tell your story.
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He's like, they said, you
have an amazing story and you could
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actually you could help people. That's
right, yeah, you because there's people
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in hospitals right now that have access
to podcast, for example, and if
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they stumbled up on a podcast of
two people who are very similar to them,
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except a couple steps of evolution.
Afterward, I fuck. I hope
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that gives them hope to because like
sometimes when you're all alone, your family,
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your friends don't get you, they're
all doing their best to support you,
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but you just feel like a fuck, nobody understands me and now I'm
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stuck in a box hospital I can't
get out. That's a pretty low place.
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So, man, if but I
do know that they have access to
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audio and they can listen to things, often on their own, with their
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own choices. So, yeah,
your story does fucking help, Dude,
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because you were deep into it and
my dude, it sounds Cliche, but,
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and I hate to say it,
but dude, you look great.
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You look fine, but obviously that
people. A lot of times people tell
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me that too, and like they
don't see the dark fucking humanoid that lives
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beneath my face mask here, and
I'm like right, do you have hard
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time taking compliments, for example on
your artwork? Yeah, like, like,
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for example, like my wife she's
like, how in the Hell did
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you whip that up so fast?
Yeah, things you think of like because
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it's just I really like a lot
of times I just like I use the
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waycom tablet nice, Yep, yeah, and I just start, you know,
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just sketching a line. Yeah,
another line, and I'm like,
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okay, that looks like this,
so let me keep doing this, and
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then all of a sudden it turns
into something. Yeah, crazy. My
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wife turns around for a second.
That what you just did. That that's
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awesome. Yeah, that's a she's
like, she's a big fan of my
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art. Isn't that great? And
she's a very critical person. When you
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know, when something you know,
she she's ruble about it. She's like,
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though, your arts amazing, right, she won't hold back. If
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it was shit, she would tell
you, but it's not. Yes,
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that's awesome. I always ask are
like like do you think this is good?
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She's and she loved it. Then
I'm I got cool and put it
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up. So yeah, I mean
I'm loving what I do and I just
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I'm looking forward to like the day
where I can just really just make a
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living, right, picking money doing
this and not and then also like investing
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in other projects, because that is
not great really. That's really fun to
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me. I think so too.
I Like I missed out on doodles.
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I love doodles. Yeah, me
too. I missed that, but I
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love them. How that's my favorite. There the color block, all her
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the color scheme, just the softness
and the I don't know, it looks
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like joy in a little bundle.
Right. Yeah, good stuff. They're.
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Yeah, yeah, I missed out
because it was like, I'm not
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not too long ago, is like
I think it dropped down to like one
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e who like like like a few
weeks ago, back when the dip,
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when ethery was like really pumping.
Yeah, yeah, and I had enough
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eat to buy it, but I
bought another, I bought another project.
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Yeah, and now, like,
of course, doodles is like shot way
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up right, right, you know, you just you never know, because
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doodles and like Mecca were coming out
at the same time, I think roughly,
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and Oh my got Mecca first.
Yeah, and see what happens.
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Like they just totally diverge. One
goes one way, the other goes another
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way. So, yeah, it
trading and FT's, as a trader's a
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lot like. Well, it's even
riskier and crazy than currency trading. Yes,
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so it's as fast, but it's
even crazier because it has to like
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in these spaces, like listen to
these Alpha Yeah, you know that,
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helpa spaces and stuff like that,
because you could find some really good stuff.
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Yeah, and you can take the
temperature of the room, I guess
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it's a good way to put it. And you just kind of get a
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feel like that person said something slightly
snarky about that project, and do you
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look at their thing? Oh,
they're fucking big ASS. Well, let's
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see, and you look at the
PEA, the ment, the thing that
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they kind of mentioned off handedly,
like, okay, Nope, that's on
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my no list now. So they
have a lot of pull. I hope
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they use it sparingly, or judiciously, let's say, because, yeah,
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I've always I'm trying to be a
champion for most mentally disordered folks. I
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always have a trouble because, depending
on who I'm talking to, some people
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get offended and what you call these
things, but anyway, the mind's conditions,
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I'm always trying to be a champion
for them because a lot of people,
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I fucked up heads, are poor
because they've never had stability in their
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lives, so they never established a
career, don't have a bank account,
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and what we're saying things like,
oh, it's only this, you just
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need to get a ledger wall,
and they're like fifty nine dollars. Fifty
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nine dollars. I spend fifty nine
dollars on groceries for two weeks. So
409
00:27:59.220 --> 00:28:00.539
they I mean so I'm always have
a lot of empathy, like how do
410
00:28:00.619 --> 00:28:06.220
we get people up and even into
the atmosphere to play with them, because
411
00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:12.250
they have to get in when you're
on the white list, Yep, or
412
00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:18.809
like during the minting mending time.
You know, we can right weight cheaper,
413
00:28:18.890 --> 00:28:21.329
and I think that's that's the way
that these a lot of these guys
414
00:28:21.369 --> 00:28:25.049
are very successful. Yeah, and
because it doesn't have to go up so
415
00:28:25.089 --> 00:28:30.279
much. You know, like I
bought and I regret it, but you
416
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.799
know, you can never tell.
At least took a profit. Yeah,
417
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.680
but I don't know if you know
about the the what is it? The
418
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.599
Wolf and sheep? Oh, this
is all blown up today. Yes,
419
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.150
you have. Well, the sheep
blown up on twitter today, November,
420
00:28:41.230 --> 00:28:45.549
twenty two thousand and twenty one.
For the record, I got two sheep
421
00:28:48.309 --> 00:28:51.589
and I got them for like dirt
sheet. Awesome. I think it was
422
00:28:51.630 --> 00:28:55.069
like zero point zero two or some
holy mother. Okay, I know,
423
00:28:55.859 --> 00:29:00.059
and I sold them. I made
profit, but I hadn't. Who knew
424
00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.420
that? Like it today, I
caught it and it was like one for
425
00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:06.980
eat. Yeah, they blew up
overnight. Oh my God, yeah,
426
00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:11.970
almost overnight, literally, like literally
almost overnight. But it is what it
427
00:29:12.130 --> 00:29:15.809
is. All there's there's always going
to be opportunity. Yeah, but I
428
00:29:15.849 --> 00:29:19.329
did get to that good crypto,
cryptogones Yo. Yeah, yeah, go
429
00:29:19.490 --> 00:29:23.170
tunes, Kryptunes, Kryptunes, kryptunes. Yeah, I got one of those
430
00:29:23.170 --> 00:29:26.640
because I really liked the art.
So, yeah, that's a cool thing
431
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.400
too, and I think most anything
minted now it's going to be worth a
432
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.200
lot. And I don't know,
I always have this conflict between approaching it
433
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.480
as an investor as an artist,
because I'm like, well, I'm just
434
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.829
going to keep making art. It's
free for me to make art. Yeah,
435
00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:40.910
but then I'm like, well,
if I sell some more this art,
436
00:29:40.990 --> 00:29:42.430
I can go buy some of that
art that I like. That I
437
00:29:42.509 --> 00:29:45.670
can't do because I can't conceive of
Shit that other people do, which is
438
00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:49.750
the fucking coolest thing about art.
Ever. It's like, no matter how
439
00:29:49.829 --> 00:29:55.980
good or awesome you think one's own
art is, there's always somebody doing something
440
00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:57.579
that blows my mind like Gough.
It blows my mind in such a way
441
00:29:57.619 --> 00:30:00.059
that, like I can't even hate. I'm like a fucking got to love
442
00:30:00.099 --> 00:30:03.619
that guy. I'm going to fucking
set the bell on twitter and like all
443
00:30:03.740 --> 00:30:06.099
his shit. I feel like such
a fan boy for some of these artists
444
00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:08.410
I find and I never would have
found that had it not been for NFT's
445
00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:12.650
HMM. Yeah. So, like, I guess it's just a matter of
446
00:30:12.849 --> 00:30:15.170
figuring out my style and how I
want to do it, you know,
447
00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:22.759
because it seems like the most successful
projects right now are the PFP projects that
448
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:29.559
have like, you know, the
Tenzero, yeah, supply or five thousand
449
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.319
whatever, at least a thousand right. Yeah, that's where all the hype
450
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.440
is, for sure. That's where
all the hype is. So, like,
451
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.630
I want to, I really want
to create like a project like that.
452
00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:41.230
It'll come to you, man,
it'll come to you. Really to
453
00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:45.109
that myself, like it just yeah, and they don't either. To your
454
00:30:45.150 --> 00:30:48.750
point, those artists do it right, and some of these guys, I
455
00:30:48.950 --> 00:30:52.019
know what they're doing. Yeah,
they go on fiber. Oh, yeah,
456
00:30:52.019 --> 00:30:53.619
of course, anybody can go on
fiber. And if you put in
457
00:30:53.779 --> 00:31:00.619
Nft, yeah, K and F
K on fiber and K and like these
458
00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:02.740
people will do it and I'll probably
get it done in a few days,
459
00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:04.849
Yep, and then from there,
you know, I guess you have to
460
00:31:04.890 --> 00:31:07.369
get like a developer. I don't
know whatever, but yeah, I mean
461
00:31:07.410 --> 00:31:11.690
these people like even I don't like
young guys, like teenagers. They're just
462
00:31:12.009 --> 00:31:18.049
tech savvy, right, they figure
things out and they end up makings crazy
463
00:31:18.130 --> 00:31:22.720
money and it's just it's an exciting
space. But I got to just be
464
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.319
real with myself and yeah, man, build your brand. Yeah, because
465
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.119
I do want to do like a
PFP project, but it's got to be
466
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.269
right now and not right now,
you know. Yeah, I heard there's
467
00:31:34.269 --> 00:31:38.750
an old street where artist named bobby
hundreds in Los Angeles. Yeah, bobby
468
00:31:38.789 --> 00:31:42.589
hundred, right, right. So
I just listened to him on NFT now.
469
00:31:44.069 --> 00:31:45.789
is another killer podcast called NFT now, and he was on it just
470
00:31:45.950 --> 00:31:49.420
this past week, so mid November, two thousand and twenty one, and
471
00:31:51.299 --> 00:31:53.220
he explained his whole history of how
he drew the bombs and all that,
472
00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:56.859
and apparently he's not fully into it. Yeah, he's like now we're taking
473
00:31:56.900 --> 00:32:00.619
a time where luxury brand, we're
not going to reach the whole shitload.
474
00:32:00.740 --> 00:32:04.130
We already have the brands, the
different bombs that we're going to release and
475
00:32:04.210 --> 00:32:06.970
we definitely have a vision. But
he's like, yeah, it's not a
476
00:32:07.049 --> 00:32:08.609
big rush, we're here, we're
here to stay. An they're doing good.
477
00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:10.650
They're doing good. It yips.
When you have you know, of
478
00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:15.799
course you have the brand like a
Straightam Yep. Think out with and E
479
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.480
T's. It'd be so bad.
Like yeah, to a people, though,
480
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.079
right to a point. If your
brand is already like complex con like
481
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.839
that sort of brand, probably yes, but if your brand is McDonald's,
482
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.109
probably no. I think about this
a lot because if you a lot of
483
00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:34.349
the biggest brands, even in music, try to jump in and do a
484
00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:37.789
rug pull kind of thing and it's
like Nah, this is a new world
485
00:32:37.829 --> 00:32:39.670
here, Bro, like this is
the great thing about new artist. You
486
00:32:39.789 --> 00:32:45.420
just pop up from the ground and
be legit. Yeah, I know there's
487
00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:47.900
a lot of likes the celebrities that
like they think they're just gonna they don't
488
00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:51.859
know anything about this nft space or
anything. When they do, they just
489
00:32:51.900 --> 00:32:53.579
see money. They're like I see
it, you see it on twitter,
490
00:32:53.740 --> 00:32:57.140
like they're like, all of a
sudden they buy a Crypto punk or an
491
00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:00.049
ape? Yeah, and they're like, Oh, I'm into it now,
492
00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:02.089
I just did this and then all
of a sudden, okay, so you're
493
00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:05.930
going to just drop a project now? Yeah, yeah, or sometimes a
494
00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:07.490
lot of people like in the space. They don't. They're not going to
495
00:33:07.769 --> 00:33:10.529
really support that. No, and
sometimes I fear. What if you owned
496
00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:17.240
like an ape, and then Jimmy
Fallon buys one, and then Jimmy Fallon
497
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.279
gets accused of some bullshit in a
week and and then he owns an ape
498
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.230
and now, by Association, the
value of your investment now goes down because
499
00:33:28.230 --> 00:33:30.589
a celebrity happened to invest in it. I'm like, that's risk that's really
500
00:33:30.630 --> 00:33:35.309
risky. So, yeah, the
whole thing about I think building a brand
501
00:33:35.390 --> 00:33:38.910
in the NFT space from scratch is
going to be ultimately more successful than trying
502
00:33:38.950 --> 00:33:44.740
to bring in old world brands into
the space, because that seems really dricky.
503
00:33:44.740 --> 00:33:47.380
I haven't seen anybody really do it. Well, I'm on a I'm
504
00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:50.700
on a mission. I am on
a MI. That's fine of you right
505
00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:52.900
now, and I'm on a mission. The world is going to know manic
506
00:33:53.180 --> 00:33:59.690
and and I do. I look
at other projects that aren't PFP's like with
507
00:33:59.849 --> 00:34:02.890
the Damian Hurst right, yeah,
like Cois true collections, but not PFP's.
508
00:34:04.769 --> 00:34:08.369
Yeah, and so I'm like,
well, I'm going to see if
509
00:34:08.409 --> 00:34:12.719
I can go that. It's a
good model, that for sure. Yeah,
510
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:15.840
in the whole art blocks and stuff
like that. So I'm just rolling
511
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.639
with it and just kind of finding
my my style myself. And do you
512
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.349
experiment with any other platforms than open
sea right now? Have you tried any
513
00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:32.750
of the coins around the platforms?
Yeah, I'm on Foundation Foundation. Yeah,
514
00:34:32.829 --> 00:34:36.349
Yep, Yep. Yeah, I
got an invite to there and I
515
00:34:36.429 --> 00:34:38.539
put one of my own, one
of my pieces on there, one of
516
00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:43.780
my digital sculps. Nice. I
can't wait to see those. Yeah,
517
00:34:44.019 --> 00:34:46.019
right on my right, on my
own, right on my under twitter twitter
518
00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:51.619
profile. Yet it's called skults by
manic. Yeah, if you listen,
519
00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:54.969
you want to go check out his
twitter profile. It is metaverse and ft
520
00:34:55.289 --> 00:35:00.489
art on twitter. Check that out. Yeah, and that's like so that's
521
00:35:00.530 --> 00:35:05.889
like my alter ego, crazy metaverse
kid, and I got the crazy metaverse
522
00:35:05.929 --> 00:35:07.880
kid, dot eth. Oh.
Yeah, yeah, which we got that
523
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.559
a lot, like a few months
ago, because you heard about that,
524
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.079
that air drive. Yeah, I
got mine late to like a like literally
525
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.800
like three days late. I saw
the cutoff day. I was like October
526
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.670
thirty one, and I think I
got mine on the third and like it's
527
00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:24.269
that over it for the money,
though. I'm just in it to lock
528
00:35:24.349 --> 00:35:28.070
it down so nobody else had a
really. Yeah. So, yeah,
529
00:35:28.150 --> 00:35:31.750
crazy metavers kid is like Manic and
AKA crazy metaverse kid. Yeah, Um,
530
00:35:32.949 --> 00:35:40.500
actually got the domain name crazy metaverse
kids nicecom. Oh, yeah,
531
00:35:40.579 --> 00:35:45.619
because that's something else I do,
is by domain name. I haven't done
532
00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:47.099
it so much lately, but I
have some domain names I've been holding on
533
00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:52.250
too for years. Yeah, I'm
because they digital real estate. Yeah,
534
00:35:52.369 --> 00:35:57.289
I've been all about like making property
on yeah, for years, like it's
535
00:35:57.329 --> 00:36:00.929
digital real estate. And next now, once I can start selling my art,
536
00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.519
I want to buy land and sandbox
into central land. Yeah, yeah,
537
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.320
especially sand box. This is the
this is the new world right now,
538
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.559
and it's everything's this cheam is going
to get. Yeah, it's just
539
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.400
going to get more expensive as time
goes on, as more people kind of
540
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.150
flood into the new world. So, yeah, that's what's up, Dude.
541
00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.510
I collect domain names too, like
I love them, because I have
542
00:36:22.750 --> 00:36:24.630
like a science to it, like
I'm literally one of my book marks is
543
00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:29.829
this place called name check. So
you can go in there in type to
544
00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.139
see if the domains available. Twitter, I mean all the social handles,
545
00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:36.059
will give you on one screen if
it's available. Because if I'm going to
546
00:36:36.099 --> 00:36:38.380
brand something, the URL's just the
first step. If the URL and I
547
00:36:38.420 --> 00:36:43.059
can't get the twitter, but I
also and I can't get the fucking facebook
548
00:36:43.059 --> 00:36:45.739
or whatever the new thing is.
I don't really do facebook much anymore,
549
00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:49.449
but I'm still I want my fucking
name lockdown. Just forgot to do that.
550
00:36:49.610 --> 00:36:53.210
Yeah, I mean I love like. I love hold up second yeah,
551
00:36:53.210 --> 00:37:00.570
yeah, I love like the whole
like making money online marketing domain names.
552
00:37:00.730 --> 00:37:04.320
Like I'm I read, you know
Alex Becker, I'm not by name,
553
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.679
so he's a big he's big in
the n oft space, but and
554
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:13.280
he's all he's a famous youtuber and
he wrote a great book. And Yeah,
555
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.030
so I'm, like always is just
trying to just, yeah, nailing
556
00:37:16.070 --> 00:37:22.110
everyone, marketing, like personal development, just trying to just, you know,
557
00:37:22.230 --> 00:37:24.989
like this better myself. You know, and I'm a big believer in
558
00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:30.139
the law of attraction. Yeah,
the success thing on what you want.
559
00:37:30.420 --> 00:37:34.460
Fuck, yeah, you will.
You will actually attractive. Yeah, what
560
00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:37.820
you focus on gross is what they
say. Yeah, like like, if
561
00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:40.460
you focus on what you don't want, like I don't want to be broke,
562
00:37:40.619 --> 00:37:45.369
I don't want this, you will
actually attractive. Yeah, you're thinking
563
00:37:45.449 --> 00:37:49.289
what you don't want. That's right. And then, like my wife says
564
00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:50.849
it too. She's like man,
like, how do you do this?
565
00:37:51.010 --> 00:37:53.769
Like you have that law of attraction. Like like I was in the Crypto
566
00:37:54.570 --> 00:37:59.559
I had my own little moving business, cool, and I just stall a
567
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.639
sudden random somebody that was doing crypto
and like, I mean, it's just
568
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.880
that's what I did. There's a
random circumstance. I was like in San
569
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.000
Francisco on the evening of Chinese New
Year and I was down by the beach.
570
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.429
All the buses were stuck so they
couldn't come down to pick US up.
571
00:38:14.789 --> 00:38:16.829
They just got stuck in Chinatown.
I got stuck with this guy that
572
00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:21.949
was wouldn't shut up about bitcoin for
like forty five minutes, just me and
573
00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:25.710
him at a bus stop seven years
ago, and I'm like, I'm glad
574
00:38:25.750 --> 00:38:29.260
I met that guy. You never
know how you're going to like find out
575
00:38:29.300 --> 00:38:30.539
the thing you need to know to
get to the next stage. That's why
576
00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:34.860
I think it's so critical to just
always be open minded and fucking curious,
577
00:38:34.940 --> 00:38:37.340
like dig a little deeper if you
hear something that Piques your interest. Dig
578
00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:40.139
a little deeper, man, exactly. That's why I love life. It's
579
00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:45.010
so cool to connect with like minded
people. Like it when I'm in a
580
00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:47.650
lot of times that people in the
NFT space. They've they've liked to you
581
00:38:47.809 --> 00:38:51.449
done like the domain name thing,
and Yep, a lot of people seem
582
00:38:51.530 --> 00:38:54.050
like they've already been making you know, trying to make money online, or
583
00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:58.159
I have made money online. So
they all like ties in together totally,
584
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.880
but with our art, with their
actually creative output, this time with yes.
585
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:07.519
So I'm just happy as hell to
have stumbled across the N ft's and
586
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.150
yeah and it's. Does it seem
like your life is more aligned? That's
587
00:39:10.150 --> 00:39:13.710
one of the things, the kind
of a constant theme of the shows.
588
00:39:13.750 --> 00:39:17.670
I think most people that suffer from
mental illnesses or disorders are simply suffering because
589
00:39:17.710 --> 00:39:21.190
they're forced to get up, do
a nine hundred and twenty five in a
590
00:39:21.269 --> 00:39:22.989
fucking box and do it again every
day, every day, every day.
591
00:39:23.150 --> 00:39:27.539
I don't think humans are set up
for that and I think if we're allowed
592
00:39:27.539 --> 00:39:30.699
to break free and like create art, I think a lot of people's suffering
593
00:39:30.900 --> 00:39:37.179
will diminish really quickly without any medication. MMM. But right now, like
594
00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:40.530
I haven't worked a nine hundred and
twenty five in a while. Good,
595
00:39:42.730 --> 00:39:45.130
because I'm always I figure out like
how to make like I like with the
596
00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:49.969
Merch by Amazon, the print on
demand, like I've formed like passive income,
597
00:39:50.130 --> 00:39:53.199
like killer every month, like it's
just a definite money coming in.
598
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.880
Yep. But I also I have
my own junk removable business. Oh Nice,
599
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.960
and that's like the bread and butter
right now. Do you find probably
600
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:07.389
fund a bunch of killer stuff.
Do you like turn it into craigslist or
601
00:40:07.550 --> 00:40:12.429
marketplace sales or things like that too? Just pure jump junk. I don't
602
00:40:12.429 --> 00:40:15.429
have time for that. Yeah,
okay, pretty much just junk. But
603
00:40:15.590 --> 00:40:20.269
it's a great business because I mean
literally like say, for example, I
604
00:40:20.309 --> 00:40:22.739
pick up a mattress, like I
literally take match to on the truck and
605
00:40:22.780 --> 00:40:24.980
that's like quick hundred and twenty bucks. Nice, yeah, boom, like
606
00:40:25.099 --> 00:40:28.820
right there. And then, once
I have my truck filled up more than
607
00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:30.579
I go to the landfill and dispose
a bit. But cool, cool,
608
00:40:31.260 --> 00:40:35.849
sick business. That's enss balance to
like is that gets you in touch with
609
00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:38.130
the real people, the real world. That the idea that we generate and
610
00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:42.369
buy stuff and create waste. But
then on the flip side you jump right
611
00:40:42.409 --> 00:40:45.650
into the full digital world where everything
is our imagination. Yeah, I mean
612
00:40:45.690 --> 00:40:51.800
I'll literally do junk removal by day, come home and do this digital art.
613
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.079
So how much time do you spend
on twitter? That's a big thing
614
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.039
I've noticing because a lot of times, as an nft artist, I would
615
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.599
say eighty percent of your if you
call that a hundred percent of your nft
616
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:02.519
artist your job, if that's a
hundred percent, I'd say eighty percent is
617
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:08.909
twitter and twenty percent is creating.
What's the breakdown for you twitter? I'm
618
00:41:09.070 --> 00:41:13.869
on Oh, all day, like
not stop. Basically take it in your
619
00:41:13.909 --> 00:41:15.829
phone. It means on the computer. UND's actually it's a problem, but
620
00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:22.099
at the same time it's part of
our job. Like yeah, gotta Chill,
621
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:24.139
we gotta you know, like I'm
on twitter, like got engaged,
622
00:41:24.340 --> 00:41:27.780
I got to show up and this
r out oft post what you have of
623
00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:30.579
Abous. I'm like, Yep,
posting, posting and posting and posting,
624
00:41:30.699 --> 00:41:34.610
and now I'm working on getting in
the twitter spaces. And Yeah, that's
625
00:41:34.650 --> 00:41:37.090
how I found you, dude,
because that's a whole nother, another level,
626
00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:38.929
right, because some people just listen
to stuff. I was blown away
627
00:41:38.929 --> 00:41:44.210
because a lot of my podcast listeners
don't have twitter accounts. A lot of
628
00:41:44.289 --> 00:41:46.639
my twitter followers follow me for years
and finally like Oh, you have a
629
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:51.760
podcast. So it just super different
audiences. And by being bold enough to
630
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.400
step out of your comfort zone in
twitter and use your voice on twitter.
631
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.039
Most people wouldn't think to speak on
twitter. That be twitter's going to hear
632
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.110
me talk, but you did.
It's crazy. And the funny thing is
633
00:42:02.349 --> 00:42:07.469
is that my twitter account. I
opened it in two thousand and eleven,
634
00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:10.789
Yep, and I never used it
because I thought twitter was whack. Yeah,
635
00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:14.590
say, I just you know,
I was using before. I now
636
00:42:14.789 --> 00:42:17.340
like now I don't even. I
use instagram to post up some art.
637
00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:21.059
Yeah, for years in starting consisting, because you know, you have to.
638
00:42:21.500 --> 00:42:23.659
It's all about being consistent. Like
if you leave the room, you've
639
00:42:23.659 --> 00:42:29.980
left. Yeah, so I'm like
consistent. Well, you know, it's
640
00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:31.329
hard to like have tick tock and
instagram and all this. But so,
641
00:42:31.489 --> 00:42:37.489
like, my main focus right now
really is twitter and twitter lt it just
642
00:42:37.570 --> 00:42:40.449
blew up right. So used to
have hardly any followers or not. Thinking
643
00:42:40.570 --> 00:42:44.760
crypto and Ft. it's like twitter. Yeah, and I hear that all
644
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.679
the time a lot of people.
They didn't go on twitter. Now it's
645
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.960
like it. You see a lot
of howd reactivated dormant twitter accounts and livening
646
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.559
up from two thousand and eleven and
stuff like that. And when I logged
647
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.719
in I was like, man,
this is from two thousand and eleven.
648
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.869
Yeah, right, yeah, I
got him. I got on twitter early
649
00:42:59.909 --> 00:43:02.789
because I've always been into you want
to get that name, you know,
650
00:43:02.909 --> 00:43:06.190
going to get your at handle you
want. I mean all those things.
651
00:43:06.230 --> 00:43:07.710
Any time I hear from New Shit, I go there just so nobody else
652
00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:12.940
takes my name. Yeah, yeah, with the whole like the domain name
653
00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:16.260
thing. But you know about the
website FLIPPA? Huh? Okay, so
654
00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:20.139
it's a domain name auction. Okay, cool, yeah, I love that.
655
00:43:20.380 --> 00:43:22.699
By domain, you know, by
domaining from go Daddy, your name,
656
00:43:22.780 --> 00:43:24.820
Che I got whatever. I'm I
should go sell some. Yeah,
657
00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:30.369
and you can go on Flippacom and
list them and and sell them, but
658
00:43:30.489 --> 00:43:34.650
let's see people doing that with their
eath names and their test names and things
659
00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:36.849
like that. Tea. Yeah,
did that eath. I just got mine.
660
00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:39.409
But Um, when I first got
into an FT space, I got
661
00:43:39.449 --> 00:43:43.519
a dot crypto. Oh, yeah, I got a dot art just for
662
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.159
art, because I knew it was
going to be pure art and not necessarily
663
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.599
coins. But yeah, it's just
because. Yeah, get that sum.
664
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.079
Yeah, and what do you call
it? Had some got IOS. I
665
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:59.510
like those Catty X Y Z's.
I did. I did or I don't
666
00:43:59.510 --> 00:44:01.349
even know. Yeah, there's some
X Y Z's. That's become a trade.
667
00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:05.230
Yeah, got I. Oh,
I know it's for like tech,
668
00:44:05.429 --> 00:44:07.510
very yeah, and there's some cool
stuff in io audio. I mean like
669
00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:13.300
a music industry can do io as
well. And Yeah, and it Christ
670
00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:16.980
few years ago, like you could
have got some great dot IOS, because
671
00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:20.940
now many, not as many,
people are using them. Yeah, they
672
00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:22.659
look cool. Now it's hard to
tell what you're going to actually get adopted
673
00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:25.570
to, because who knew? Like
XYZ, I wouldn't have thought of,
674
00:44:25.690 --> 00:44:29.170
but once I heard it on a
Crypto podcast, I'm like, all right,
675
00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:30.889
I'll go get some X Y Z's. So this is it? Is
676
00:44:30.969 --> 00:44:36.610
it? What is it called?
Top level domain? Teo Field? Right,
677
00:44:36.650 --> 00:44:39.840
yeah, there's one that has been
supposed to come and come out,
678
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.840
come out up Um dot web.
That sounds familiar, but it never has.
679
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.000
Huh, never had interesting, and
I was like waiting for it to
680
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.190
happen because you know, then,
if you could just find out about these
681
00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:55.269
early and just scoop up what you
can. Yeah, Dude, you I
682
00:44:55.389 --> 00:45:00.030
found another thing because I was like, I grew up with like motorhead and
683
00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:02.349
Motley crue and bands like they used
to put Oom lauts over there. OHS,
684
00:45:02.429 --> 00:45:07.579
they're use will. You can get
top level domains with oomlauts in them,
685
00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:10.059
and I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm going to start art
686
00:45:10.099 --> 00:45:14.179
project with the top level domain that
actually has an Umlaut over one of the
687
00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:17.340
letters. And the mind fuck is
that most people don't know how to create
688
00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:21.849
the Oom l out letters on their
keyboards, so nobody will know how to
689
00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:24.090
type my domain name. The literally
have to see it on tshirts and on
690
00:45:24.369 --> 00:45:29.489
you know, graphics and things and
Click. Yeah, can't wait. Yeah,
691
00:45:29.530 --> 00:45:31.329
check into that next time. You're
the fucking round domain names. You
692
00:45:31.449 --> 00:45:36.920
can just get sit like Uber with
Oom Laut. You. Let me see
693
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:44.119
own loud. Yeah, I'm write
that down, you said loud. Yeah,
694
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:49.639
it was. It's spelled you M
L A ut Oom l out,
695
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.750
and it's just the name for European
characters that have dots on the top of
696
00:45:53.909 --> 00:46:00.030
them. Okay, so like Uber. The word Uber would we pronounce it
697
00:46:00.269 --> 00:46:05.019
U Beer, but in Germany it
has two dots over it's pronounced like Uber.
698
00:46:05.860 --> 00:46:08.099
So it's rights kind of weird,
but I'm just for the esthetic value.
699
00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:12.500
I've always loved two dots, like
Hog and Doss, motor and Motley
700
00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:15.099
crue, like what it looks cool. Yeah, my what can't I have
701
00:46:15.219 --> 00:46:16.780
that? I'm like, Oh shit, I can. Fuck yeah, I
702
00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:20.650
think in the back of behind the
scenes, is created a long string of
703
00:46:20.730 --> 00:46:23.409
characters. So your real domain name
is like x throw, xcel, three,
704
00:46:23.809 --> 00:46:27.650
five, seven, whatever, Bob. Yeah, I know, like
705
00:46:27.730 --> 00:46:31.489
Chinese domain names are pretty valuable,
but yeah, I love that. Cool
706
00:46:31.489 --> 00:46:35.239
Man. Well, anything you want
to share specifically. So I think we've
707
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:38.280
got where people can find you.
That's awesome and you're always welcome to come
708
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.719
back. If you got a new
drop or anything you know, just drop
709
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.480
on on or call me and I'll
mention it on a different show if you
710
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.869
don't want to necessarily come on,
for sure. So always happy to help.
711
00:46:47.949 --> 00:46:51.750
Love your story. I'm due.
Your story can go so many different
712
00:46:51.789 --> 00:46:54.309
directions, because we could talk about
meds, we can talk about what it's
713
00:46:54.349 --> 00:46:59.510
like being locked in, we could
talk about the especially the transition. I'm
714
00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:04.179
most happy that you seems to be
living your independent life. Is What brought
715
00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:07.820
you out of the I don't know, out of the mental cloud. Yeah,
716
00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:12.099
I mean, I'm just I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm must like
717
00:47:12.340 --> 00:47:16.050
I want this to happen really bad. So I will not stop until I
718
00:47:16.289 --> 00:47:22.610
can become financially free doing what I
love, and so I'm just going to
719
00:47:22.650 --> 00:47:27.010
keep showing up, like you know, actually, one of my pieces of
720
00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:35.239
art was exhibited in in Manhattan.
Wow, not n FT, you can
721
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.960
the NFT NYC. Yeah, yeah, it was, is like a drop
722
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.710
by a known guy in this space. You had one of your things shown
723
00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:50.710
up there aft and I see now, yeah, motivate, no shit.
724
00:47:50.789 --> 00:47:52.230
Oh, yeah, I've seen his
account. Shout out to motivate. Yeah,
725
00:47:52.389 --> 00:47:57.510
I was showed, like my art
was chosen from a certain amount of
726
00:47:57.550 --> 00:48:00.539
artist and it wasn't even like that
many, but they happened to choose mine,
727
00:48:00.579 --> 00:48:01.900
so that was really cool. Yeah, that's fucking great. Dude,
728
00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:06.300
congrats. So was that a digital
art shown in the real world on a
729
00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:08.099
screen, or is that it was? Actually it was in, it was
730
00:48:08.219 --> 00:48:12.739
in and in New York. Yeah, they had these art all over there
731
00:48:12.780 --> 00:48:15.570
in the subway with a Qr Code. Oh Dope, okay, cool,
732
00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:21.050
that's really neat. So so you're
a still shot of your art is in
733
00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:23.050
the subway with the Qr code to
the digital is. I don't know if
734
00:48:23.050 --> 00:48:27.280
they like took it down, but
for a while it was all these artists
735
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.320
work was writing. You know,
I forgot where was. That was like
736
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.679
in the subway. Yeah, good
for them, probably leading right up to
737
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.000
the locations nearest the right and it
shortly after that that's when the whole d
738
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:43.389
n FT NYC situation went down,
and I would have loved to go on
739
00:48:43.469 --> 00:48:45.989
to that because that looks really cool
and good place to network. Oh yeah,
740
00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:50.989
definitely. There's a couple of hearing
them, both that and complex con
741
00:48:51.110 --> 00:48:53.230
is another one on the west coast, and then apparently the big thing down
742
00:48:53.269 --> 00:48:58.780
in Florida is going to be art
basil Miami and a couple weeks. So
743
00:48:58.860 --> 00:49:00.019
yeah, there's a lot of places. Ben If you got it. Any
744
00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:02.940
of you to travel and get out. Who is a lot of good real
745
00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:07.139
life places to fucking interact, for
sure. You are you going to make
746
00:49:07.260 --> 00:49:08.820
like some some kind of brand or
way, because you know, if you
747
00:49:08.900 --> 00:49:12.130
go out in publicly, got a
board a or something like that. You
748
00:49:12.210 --> 00:49:15.050
got a yacht club logo on your
jacket or Hoodi or whatever, people can
749
00:49:15.050 --> 00:49:20.530
see you. Are you thinking of
developing some kind of icon that people can
750
00:49:20.610 --> 00:49:22.449
recognize your work on? Like you
got a supreme hat, I got fucking
751
00:49:22.530 --> 00:49:25.280
Emo Dojo shirt and you do print
on demand. Some. I'm thinking,
752
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.079
like what's next? You're going to
make a identifier for yourself? Yeah,
753
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.960
the manic, that the am like
up we see up here in the capital,
754
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.719
m lower keys A. Yeah,
okay, killer. Yeah, yeah,
755
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.909
I can't wait to see that.
A be like my signature. Yeah,
756
00:49:39.230 --> 00:49:44.550
manic, sick, Short, maccom. Yep, it's taken them,
757
00:49:44.590 --> 00:49:46.469
I bet. I'm obviously for sure
you're right. Short, don't mean name,
758
00:49:46.550 --> 00:49:52.829
but and Manic Dot eth is taken
you. So whatever out. Maybe
759
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:57.940
I'll get a different tld. Yeah, but the crazy metaverse kid. I
760
00:49:58.900 --> 00:50:04.659
got the crazy metavers kid, dot
eth and I have crazy metaverse kidscom.
761
00:50:05.820 --> 00:50:09.090
So that's a good one. What
thinking when I thought of the reason why
762
00:50:09.090 --> 00:50:14.849
I got the crazy metavers kidscom because
I was laying in bed thinking about N
763
00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:20.809
ft's and I was like falling asleep
and I thought garbage pail kids, Oh
764
00:50:20.929 --> 00:50:24.280
yes, right, teeth. Yeah, so I was like garbage peel kids
765
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.760
and my mind was like crazy metaverse
kids, yeah, right, I'm so
766
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:35.989
I was like make a project called
crazy metavers kids, you know, and
767
00:50:36.070 --> 00:50:39.389
then just different characteristics and it could
be really why iildlooking characters and do that
768
00:50:39.469 --> 00:50:44.429
going to be the PFP project right
there? Yes, crazy metaverse kids,
769
00:50:44.469 --> 00:50:46.670
Yep, I already got the domain
name, Yep, and I have my
770
00:50:46.829 --> 00:50:51.579
create. I'm the crazy metaver's kids. So crazy metavers kid dot eve right,
771
00:50:51.780 --> 00:50:54.300
and each case of Metavers iscom.
I think their look should be depended
772
00:50:54.380 --> 00:51:00.340
upon whatever their mental illness is,
like here's they can be really depressed David,
773
00:51:00.860 --> 00:51:04.139
here's Manic Matthew, that kind of
thing, because I don't know what
774
00:51:04.289 --> 00:51:07.929
how the garbage pail kids got so
ugly, like what's what made each one
775
00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:12.409
ugly? But you have a running
theme already that, yes, I had
776
00:51:12.449 --> 00:51:15.090
to kid could have a different thing. Yeah, and they could be really,
777
00:51:15.369 --> 00:51:20.039
you know, crazy looking and you
know yeah, abstract. Fuck,
778
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.639
yeah, I like crazy metavers kids
and they could be like C mk.
779
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.639
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
like that too. So I just like
780
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.239
I got the domain name right away. was I have that taken care of.
781
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:35.389
Now it's just developing that whole situation. I already stored of I thought
782
00:51:35.389 --> 00:51:38.670
about a whole story, but but
that's just something I have in the back.
783
00:51:38.829 --> 00:51:42.429
Right again, it's back to the
priorities, like so, Shit,
784
00:51:42.510 --> 00:51:45.869
I've only got eight other things I'm
working on now, but I'm definitely keeping
785
00:51:45.949 --> 00:51:50.699
that one like that. I'm definitely, because that's like right now it seems
786
00:51:50.739 --> 00:51:54.940
like the really the that's like the
hype is the Pie and seems like a
787
00:51:54.980 --> 00:51:58.659
fun challenge to do it right,
because I would try to do it in
788
00:51:58.739 --> 00:52:01.690
a way that kind of, you
know, addressed issues that I have problems
789
00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:06.849
without other PF P prong projects,
then that huge issues. But just artistically
790
00:52:06.889 --> 00:52:08.329
and things like that, I'm like, well, if, instead of bitching
791
00:52:08.329 --> 00:52:12.289
about things, I always like to
like file it for a project I have
792
00:52:12.369 --> 00:52:15.280
to do one day, because,
like podcast, I kept hearing podcast Mike.
793
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.679
I don't like the way that's done. It's too square, it's too
794
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.239
like formulaic and like well, shut
up and quit bitching about just make a
795
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.000
podcast. See how hard it is, see how easy it is, whichever.
796
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.119
So the same thing with the PFP
project. You kind of want to
797
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.670
like, I don't know, it
looks challenge you, it looks fun,
798
00:52:30.710 --> 00:52:34.070
and it would actually because it kind
of tickles a part of the mind.
799
00:52:34.190 --> 00:52:37.590
That be Badass to have a set
of playing cards of your own thing,
800
00:52:37.789 --> 00:52:39.230
whatever that turns out to be.
Yeah, I love that, man.
801
00:52:39.269 --> 00:52:43.030
Yeah, it's so cool. Like
I'm a I'm a big Fan of Gary
802
00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:45.340
v and sure, yeah, me
too. Yeah, and when he had
803
00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:50.260
his when he was talking about his
own NFT's, like not even that long
804
00:52:50.340 --> 00:52:54.139
ago, when he was like saying
I think they were like thousand dollars or
805
00:52:54.139 --> 00:52:59.130
a little bit over a thousand dollars, and I was like that's expensive,
806
00:52:59.449 --> 00:53:01.409
like that's riding now that one's gonna
spend that. And all of a sudden
807
00:53:01.449 --> 00:53:05.329
they're no, and now they're like
seconds. At one point, I don't
808
00:53:05.369 --> 00:53:08.130
eat, they were like forget,
but like over fifteen eight or something like
809
00:53:08.250 --> 00:53:12.449
that, or even more. Yeah, and what? and to people that
810
00:53:12.730 --> 00:53:15.639
don't know about what we're talking about, so Gary v Vander check is a
811
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:22.559
popular business motivational coach, investor guy. He turned his daily scribbles into NFTS.
812
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.960
He like, you know, kind
of crude scribble of a to can
813
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.829
or something. They're cute enough and
you can identify what it is, but
814
00:53:29.150 --> 00:53:32.110
snow you know it's not like high
art by any means, but because he
815
00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:38.349
has a following and he he's high
machine. Madam he turned his little scribbles
816
00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:43.940
on a Napkin, almost literally scribbles
on an African, into hundreds of thousand
817
00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:47.219
dollars each. Oh my God.
Yeah, actually ordered. He had this
818
00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:52.380
opportunity about if you order these books. Do you know about that? Yeah,
819
00:53:52.420 --> 00:53:53.940
I remember that. Huh. You
have been following since the first drew
820
00:53:53.980 --> 00:53:55.809
a scribble. I'm like, what
is this? And then it came out
821
00:53:55.809 --> 00:53:59.889
a couple weeks later, like Oh, that's your nft. What. Okay,
822
00:53:59.969 --> 00:54:01.530
like a few months ago, like
he's putting out a new book,
823
00:54:01.570 --> 00:54:06.449
like twelve and a half, I
forgot the name of it, twelve something,
824
00:54:07.969 --> 00:54:13.280
and if you bought twelve books he's
going to air drop. Excuse me,
825
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.360
Um, not, I don't think
it's a V friend. Yeah,
826
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:19.280
it's not. It's a new thing, a book friend. I think my
827
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.480
wife was saying it. Yeah,
he differentiates them so the V friends maintain
828
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:24.829
their value. Yeah, that's like
the originals. Yeah, so I'm going
829
00:54:24.869 --> 00:54:29.670
to be getting an air drop from
Oh, you are dude sighted. Fuck.
830
00:54:29.750 --> 00:54:32.989
Yeah, and I was supposed to
get I ordered like thirty two,
831
00:54:34.110 --> 00:54:37.070
but there was an issue that from
Barnes and noble or a canceled one of
832
00:54:37.110 --> 00:54:39.780
the orders. Fuckers, because I
would have gotten ended up getting three of
833
00:54:39.860 --> 00:54:44.179
them. Damn. That's still so. Also now I'm gonna hold on to
834
00:54:44.380 --> 00:54:46.659
that because, yeah, I mean, why not? To write a lot
835
00:54:46.699 --> 00:54:51.059
of the things that you like,
I give away and FT sometimes to people
836
00:54:51.059 --> 00:54:52.659
I meet. They're like, oh, that's fucking cool. I'm like,
837
00:54:52.699 --> 00:54:53.329
you know what, I'm just going
to give you one, because my thing
838
00:54:53.409 --> 00:54:57.730
isn't about making money with nfts right
now. It's about making money for my
839
00:54:57.730 --> 00:55:01.690
kids and NFT's a generation from now. So I'm always like, yeah,
840
00:55:01.929 --> 00:55:05.650
I don't need your money right now, just like I don't know a grip
841
00:55:05.650 --> 00:55:08.039
kind of like as a street kids
sometimes, and I remember the whole thing,
842
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.559
and they used to give away drugs
until they got you hooked and then
843
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.440
they can try they could charge you
anything. So I kind of feel the
844
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.880
same way with NFTS. I'm just
like, get people on. I could
845
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:20.159
tell you what, if you set
up a fucking wallet, I will give
846
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.070
you something, just so you can
know how to play the game and receive
847
00:55:22.389 --> 00:55:27.630
a thing from person that you know
and trust. So exactly like I've given
848
00:55:27.670 --> 00:55:30.110
away, I've listened. So my
AMT's for free. Yeah, you know.
849
00:55:30.190 --> 00:55:34.750
And so people, just so people
could have my art in there,
850
00:55:34.869 --> 00:55:37.739
you know, in their collection,
and if somebody else spread the love,
851
00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:40.739
it's this and then it'll click on
that and it can take them to my
852
00:55:40.860 --> 00:55:44.980
collection. Yeah, Dude, I'll
give people to you. Keep on and
853
00:55:45.059 --> 00:55:46.780
sell one if you can. Good
luck selling. I mean it's and that's
854
00:55:46.820 --> 00:55:50.969
what you know. What I do. I'M gonna I'll go on my abstract
855
00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:55.730
visions account and I will make some
better zero dollars, right. And so
856
00:55:55.809 --> 00:55:59.610
if it was interested, they can
just pay the gas fee. Yeah,
857
00:55:59.730 --> 00:56:01.250
there you go. That's see,
I think that's great. So, and
858
00:56:01.610 --> 00:56:05.000
especially if you know that person in
real life and kind of hold their hand
859
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.119
or walk them through and the Bam, now you've on boarded a new person.
860
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.239
Yeah, so I guess I could. I could send you a lay.
861
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:14.119
I'm going to go through my arm
my so my art. Yeah,
862
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.920
I think the abstract visions one.
Yes, send me all your links.
863
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.190
I'll put them all in the show
notes. Anything you want. This is
864
00:56:19.269 --> 00:56:22.230
just fully promotional to get out of
loader. The price to zero. So
865
00:56:23.110 --> 00:56:28.269
somebody wants to buy their first NFT
or just have one, you know,
866
00:56:28.349 --> 00:56:30.389
the for free, they can just
pay the gas. Yep, straight up.
867
00:56:30.429 --> 00:56:34.099
Yeah, I'll definitely send you that. How long have you been doing
868
00:56:34.179 --> 00:56:38.340
this podcast? Since like twenty sixteen. I worked out a fucking tech company
869
00:56:38.860 --> 00:56:45.619
that made software for politicians to run
for office and we're like, yeah,
870
00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:50.090
anybody should be able to run for
office. Well, trump wasn't allowed to
871
00:56:50.170 --> 00:56:52.889
use anybody software. They weren't allowed. He wasn't allowed to use the Republicans
872
00:56:52.929 --> 00:56:57.610
or the Democrats. So he fucking
came and used our software, and then
873
00:56:57.730 --> 00:57:01.880
one and then I got depressed after
that and just change jobs, change careers,
874
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.480
got out of tax. Even doing
this since two thousand and sixteen.
875
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.599
Yeah, just off and on and
sometimes once a quarter, sometimes once a
876
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.719
day. But because I don't have
like a therapist and I move a lot,
877
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.150
set off as like a stable set
of social friends or circles, but
878
00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:21.510
I have this like confessional. I
just like get them talk, because if
879
00:57:21.510 --> 00:57:23.389
there's nobody like of his, no, guess I'll just get up and talk
880
00:57:23.550 --> 00:57:29.630
and maybe talk too much. Share
overshare a little bit. But so,
881
00:57:29.909 --> 00:57:32.420
but there's a kind of a dividing
line, like my employers can't find me
882
00:57:32.500 --> 00:57:37.980
because my name's not John Emotions in
real life and people that know me as
883
00:57:38.019 --> 00:57:43.420
John Emotions on Emodojo don't care things
to look for my real life person.
884
00:57:43.539 --> 00:57:46.530
So there's a nice little line there, but they're slowly kind of squishing into
885
00:57:46.570 --> 00:57:51.929
each other in the metaverse. So
yeah, so you discover me in that
886
00:57:52.050 --> 00:57:54.010
twitter spaces? Yeah, yeah,
weird. I think it was Keith Barry
887
00:57:54.050 --> 00:57:59.000
Space, one of the spaces he
puts up there. And Yeah, good.
888
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.639
Anytime someone's bold enough to fucking say
yeah, I'm here, I have
889
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.159
whatever something. If they acknowledge they
have any kind of mental disability, I'm
890
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.679
like, that's a fucking bold person
right there, and need to talk to
891
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:15.349
them. We need to encourage other
people like us to go ahead and speak
892
00:58:15.349 --> 00:58:16.909
up. You know we'll have your
back. Will for what it's worth.
893
00:58:17.349 --> 00:58:21.349
But also, I'm you, just
good practice to get out there and fucking
894
00:58:21.750 --> 00:58:24.389
work out as muscles. PODCAST that
I've been on just your first one.
895
00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:28.539
Yeah, Oh dude, awesome,
you doing fucking killer and like you kind
896
00:58:28.579 --> 00:58:30.460
of a natural add it, and
in the future I can imagine you just
897
00:58:30.539 --> 00:58:34.380
starting your own little thing. Dude, might as well, right. Yeah.
898
00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:37.460
And so another thing was when I
was younger, like I wanted to
899
00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:42.489
be an actor. Oh yeah,
yeah, my like my grandfather was a
900
00:58:42.610 --> 00:58:45.570
stage actor and so I would go
see his plays all the time, and
901
00:58:45.730 --> 00:58:47.849
so I was like, I want
to be in like I wanted to be
902
00:58:49.090 --> 00:58:51.489
ever since I was in kindergarten,
like I knew what I wanted to do
903
00:58:51.610 --> 00:58:53.170
on to be an actor. Yeah, it's always pursuing it at an early
904
00:58:53.250 --> 00:58:59.679
age. And then I got into
music and I actually I do music too,
905
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:02.119
but I haven't recorded anything in a
while. But yeah, so anything
906
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:06.679
like artistic creative, like, Oh
dude, you should do the same thing
907
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.280
I'm going to try to do,
not because everyone should do be like me,
908
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:12.550
but because you're a musician and have
that skill. So I'm going to
909
00:59:12.630 --> 00:59:15.150
put art to music and upload the
whole fucking thing. It's like I'm going
910
00:59:15.190 --> 00:59:20.590
to take a video or screenshots of
myself drawing a piece and then I'm going
911
00:59:20.630 --> 00:59:23.860
to go sit behind my electric drum
kit and play original beats like those old
912
00:59:23.900 --> 00:59:29.699
fashioned like s intros to movies,
or do literally and then something moves.
913
00:59:29.900 --> 00:59:31.579
I'm just going to make shit like
that because I can. Dude, you
914
00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:35.739
can do your part, music,
part, everything. Yeah, I mean
915
00:59:35.780 --> 00:59:39.130
it's really we're unlimited with the video
photography, like there's there's project number nine
916
00:59:39.170 --> 00:59:44.809
for you. Another collection. I
have some art that I that I made.
917
00:59:44.809 --> 00:59:50.170
I put music too, nice somewhere
in in my collections. Yeah,
918
00:59:50.210 --> 00:59:53.840
I use a logic pro right.
And Yeah, you make beats and keyboard
919
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:58.159
noise, like what kind of music
does it sound like? Like Hip Hop
920
00:59:58.159 --> 00:60:00.440
Beats? On Them I can make
like hip hop beat, rights, like
921
00:60:00.559 --> 00:60:04.480
RMB, like techno type beats.
Nice, another thing that I taught myself.
922
00:60:04.480 --> 00:60:06.960
I don't have to like read music, but same not. I've been
923
00:60:07.000 --> 00:60:08.590
popped in the music business for years. It doesn't. You don't have to
924
00:60:08.670 --> 00:60:13.429
read music. Strangely, it's a
it's a ear thing, it is.
925
00:60:13.510 --> 00:60:15.909
Yeah, and so, yeah,
like I'm even like a SAG member,
926
00:60:16.110 --> 00:60:19.789
like screen actors. Good. Oh, yeah, we'red what you used to
927
00:60:19.829 --> 00:60:22.099
do? What you do to get
to your Sade Card? Yeah, so,
928
00:60:22.619 --> 00:60:25.860
when we were in we were living
in New Jersey like a few years
929
00:60:25.860 --> 00:60:30.579
ago and I was I started up
doing background where. Yep, an extra,
930
00:60:30.739 --> 00:60:34.579
you know, and so I was
doing a bunch of that. Nice.
931
00:60:34.659 --> 00:60:36.969
It's pretty good, Hay, isn't
it? For do not much,
932
00:60:37.010 --> 00:60:38.889
because you got to slip around on
union. I was non union, so
933
00:60:39.010 --> 00:60:44.489
I wasn't making as much. But
yeah, I was eating great. Yeah,
934
00:60:44.769 --> 00:60:46.090
set. Fuck, yeah, crowd, this is that time. Yeah,
935
00:60:46.690 --> 00:60:49.769
you're going to eat, and a
lot of times eat really good.
936
00:60:49.849 --> 00:60:52.760
Yep, and you get a lot
of times get paid for this, sitting
937
00:60:52.800 --> 00:60:58.440
on your ass like literally hurry up
and wait. Yeah. So at the
938
00:60:58.559 --> 00:61:02.280
time, like I didn't really know
about SAG or Aftra. Yeah, but
939
00:61:02.639 --> 00:61:07.510
Um, so one was saying that
if you get into after now, at
940
00:61:07.590 --> 00:61:14.309
that time, you can get grandfathered
into screen actors. Okay, well,
941
00:61:14.389 --> 00:61:16.829
I got into after that, you, and I think I paid like,
942
00:61:17.269 --> 00:61:20.980
I don't even know, like fifteen
hundred hour. I forgot exactly how much
943
00:61:20.980 --> 00:61:23.059
it was. Yeah, but once
that SAG and after merged, Yep,
944
00:61:23.139 --> 00:61:28.099
you are in. I was in
Nice and be into SAG. Originally,
945
00:61:28.139 --> 00:61:31.969
to be in a sag you had
to either get cast for speaking roll or
946
00:61:32.050 --> 00:61:37.690
you had to get like three waivers
nonunion waivers and then you can be eligible,
947
00:61:37.530 --> 00:61:39.969
only eligible. You'll pay a lot
of money. Yeah, I'll right
948
00:61:40.170 --> 00:61:44.849
grandfathered in. So, yeah,
that is that's a card thing to get
949
00:61:44.889 --> 00:61:49.039
into. For people that don't know
the acting industry generally, to get a
950
00:61:49.079 --> 00:61:53.840
SAG card you need to have an
acting a speaking role, but you can't
951
00:61:53.960 --> 00:61:58.239
get a speaking roll often without a
SAG card. Hey, you got a
952
00:61:58.280 --> 00:62:02.269
Alec Monopoly Shirt on. That's awesome. Yep, there it is, BRO
953
00:62:02.949 --> 00:62:06.989
official. I've seen his qr code
and everything. It's got a SAG after
954
00:62:07.030 --> 00:62:12.230
a card. Look at these.
These are Oh oh, dude, just
955
00:62:12.510 --> 00:62:15.230
just recurry each year. Yeah,
you got to recurry. Yeah, you
956
00:62:15.269 --> 00:62:19.219
gotta pay the Dude. But I
haven't Penn and I haven't done anything in
957
00:62:19.340 --> 00:62:22.099
a while, but I will not
let that go. Fuck no, that's
958
00:62:22.219 --> 00:62:25.300
just like that's stupid to do.
Yeah, dude, that's awesome, a
959
00:62:25.380 --> 00:62:30.650
SAG membership. Like yeah, because
eventually I I want to get back into
960
00:62:30.650 --> 00:62:31.929
it. So yeah, that's next
level. If you can get fame,
961
00:62:32.010 --> 00:62:36.409
you can turn all your project into
your dreams. Yeah, I mean like
962
00:62:36.610 --> 00:62:39.849
even when you're sagging, you just
do background work. Yep, that's good
963
00:62:39.889 --> 00:62:43.610
money too. Oh, yeah,
hundreds of day. That's why movies cost
964
00:62:43.650 --> 00:62:45.719
so much to go see people,
is because they're paying every single person in
965
00:62:45.880 --> 00:62:50.559
that background couple hundred bucks a day. Yeah, and if you're a SAG
966
00:62:50.639 --> 00:62:52.639
member and you're doing the background,
word like you can make really good and
967
00:62:52.719 --> 00:63:00.309
actually I got a nypd police uniform
when we were up there. Legit,
968
00:63:00.429 --> 00:63:02.670
man, you could. Yeah,
because they pay you extra, like if
969
00:63:02.670 --> 00:63:07.670
you're wearing if you invest in your
own uniform, okay, cool, because
970
00:63:07.710 --> 00:63:10.269
they need that in the background sometimes. Yeay. So I if you are
971
00:63:10.269 --> 00:63:15.219
a SAG member, you could actually
go to the precinct in New York City
972
00:63:15.900 --> 00:63:19.860
and buy a real police uniform.
Wow, that's wild, which is insane.
973
00:63:19.900 --> 00:63:22.300
Yeah, no, they don't really. They can't give you the real
974
00:63:22.380 --> 00:63:27.170
bad course. So I have like
an NyPa to uniform and I use it
975
00:63:27.210 --> 00:63:31.769
a few times for like blue blood's
sure, and then shortly after that we
976
00:63:31.809 --> 00:63:36.530
ended up, we had to move
out of New Jersey, and so everything's
977
00:63:36.530 --> 00:63:38.329
on the background or with that,
but eventually that's cool. Yeah, make
978
00:63:38.369 --> 00:63:43.159
it with this NMT. When I
make it with this NF, definitely have
979
00:63:43.719 --> 00:63:50.199
financial freedom. Maybe we'll get another
house like somewhere like I don't know.
980
00:63:50.320 --> 00:63:52.480
Yeah, you never know what comes
dude. I was listening to Kanye on
981
00:63:53.320 --> 00:63:58.269
drink champs. I think, just
talking talking this, that's a bipolar.
982
00:63:58.989 --> 00:64:01.750
He definitely does like people with buypolar
we see it in other people, even
983
00:64:01.789 --> 00:64:06.110
if they don't want to acknowledge it
for whatever political reasons or entertainment reasons.
984
00:64:06.230 --> 00:64:11.019
You know people anyway, but that's
not really a secret. But that fuckers
985
00:64:11.019 --> 00:64:13.739
got a great point. I love
his new thing. So when he was
986
00:64:13.820 --> 00:64:16.860
living in the Mercedes stadium, that
wasn't a thing for him. He wasn't
987
00:64:16.860 --> 00:64:19.260
trying to make a show out of
he's all. I live wherever. My
988
00:64:19.420 --> 00:64:24.289
whole goal in life now is to
have friends in every city never pay for
989
00:64:24.369 --> 00:64:26.889
anything. Like I want to go
to a restaurant in New York and people
990
00:64:26.929 --> 00:64:30.449
say hey, Kanye, come in, will feed you for free. Hey,
991
00:64:30.570 --> 00:64:31.730
come over to my house, you
can sleep for free. So his
992
00:64:31.929 --> 00:64:35.530
whole dream now is to just live
in a backpack. HMM. I'm like,
993
00:64:35.650 --> 00:64:38.599
well, your trip, Dude,
but I'm like I get it.
994
00:64:39.719 --> 00:64:42.880
Be Nice to have that kind of
cash to do it and up on it
995
00:64:43.000 --> 00:64:48.320
like like I'll see you know,
like even Gary V. I'm like he
996
00:64:48.599 --> 00:64:53.030
must be like manic or hypomanic right
now, like yeah, you know,
997
00:64:53.230 --> 00:64:55.949
yeah, yeah, no, for
sure, it's when they throw when all
998
00:64:55.989 --> 00:64:58.949
of a sudden they turn dark.
I'm like Oh, these definitely, because
999
00:64:59.309 --> 00:65:03.190
they could be hyperactive, maybe a
dhd manic. But Connie's special, for
1000
00:65:03.309 --> 00:65:06.300
sure. On you. Oh yeah, he's, I mean he's been delusion.
1001
00:65:06.340 --> 00:65:09.860
He's got both sides. Yeah,
and well, you talked about earlier,
1002
00:65:09.900 --> 00:65:14.380
when you get that that grandiosity,
the ego inflation, I can fucking
1003
00:65:14.420 --> 00:65:18.860
rule the world. He gets that
pretty frequently apparently. But then again he's
1004
00:65:19.019 --> 00:65:21.570
it's not horrible like you and I
suffer from it. So like, oh,
1005
00:65:21.610 --> 00:65:25.090
he's just the regular dude. The
rest of the world seems to demonize
1006
00:65:25.090 --> 00:65:27.570
him because of that, I think, and I'm like that's not fair.
1007
00:65:27.610 --> 00:65:30.409
That guy's in a bad position.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah,
1008
00:65:30.489 --> 00:65:34.289
and Um, it's a double edged
sword. Yeah, yeah, for
1009
00:65:34.409 --> 00:65:42.119
sure though, because you have that
like creative mind and there's so many great
1010
00:65:42.760 --> 00:65:47.199
leaders and artists and actors and all, you know, people scientists throughout history
1011
00:65:47.360 --> 00:65:53.389
that have this type of mind,
you know, and it's just, you
1012
00:65:53.510 --> 00:65:58.030
know, it's just, it's a
blessing and it can a double Ed Sword.
1013
00:65:58.309 --> 00:66:00.070
Yeah, no, yeah, I
dig it. Like. But to
1014
00:66:00.230 --> 00:66:02.949
your point earlier, I've definitely lean. If I had to choose, it
1015
00:66:02.989 --> 00:66:06.260
would always be manic. I have
no use for depression. I have many
1016
00:66:06.300 --> 00:66:11.139
uses for mania. Yeah, it. Do you get the depressed part at
1017
00:66:11.179 --> 00:66:14.860
all? Yeah, I have this
running my mixtape. It's kind of fucked
1018
00:66:14.860 --> 00:66:16.380
up. So I have this recurring
like I feel like I hate myself,
1019
00:66:16.500 --> 00:66:19.489
like the true depression thing, but
it's working. Depression, I get up
1020
00:66:19.489 --> 00:66:23.969
and I can fucking put on my
manic front side. That's how I'm similar
1021
00:66:24.090 --> 00:66:28.170
to that. Like, yeah,
it, but it'll be like, for
1022
00:66:28.289 --> 00:66:31.289
example, lately I'm like, I'm
like, I feel like I'm not getting
1023
00:66:31.289 --> 00:66:34.559
anywhere with this nftee thing. Yeah, but I have to keep pushing.
1024
00:66:34.679 --> 00:66:39.199
You know, the mania helps me
keep yeah, maybe I do what this
1025
00:66:39.400 --> 00:66:42.320
PFP project, because that's what's you
know, that's what's really popping off.
1026
00:66:43.960 --> 00:66:46.429
But yeah, maintain your sanity.
Dude. You're on the right you're on
1027
00:66:46.469 --> 00:66:50.550
the right path and I think you're
going too right. Speed right and put
1028
00:66:50.590 --> 00:66:57.550
it out. What do you call
it? I sold one piece great congratsman's
1029
00:66:57.550 --> 00:67:01.099
from I was in a clubhouse group
and I told my story and P for
1030
00:67:01.420 --> 00:67:05.019
like Holy Shit, like wow,
like that's crazy that you've gone through all
1031
00:67:05.099 --> 00:67:12.460
that and so some it was actually
my birthday even better, buddy, even
1032
00:67:12.500 --> 00:67:15.460
better. What a great year was
my birthday and one of the people in
1033
00:67:15.500 --> 00:67:17.530
the audience, you know, and
there's a lot of people in attitude space,
1034
00:67:17.610 --> 00:67:19.929
that have a lot of money.
Yeah, for sure. You know,
1035
00:67:20.210 --> 00:67:23.769
then you have to have some kind
of money to be able to buy
1036
00:67:23.849 --> 00:67:28.449
these expensive pieces, because loudest is
not cheap. NOPE, although when you're
1037
00:67:28.449 --> 00:67:32.119
when you're it's so crazy. When
you compare eth to Fiat, it's just
1038
00:67:32.320 --> 00:67:35.079
like it's like it's you know what
I mean, it's like still weird.
1039
00:67:35.119 --> 00:67:38.880
Yeah, yeah, it's weird right. It doesn't seem like when you have
1040
00:67:39.000 --> 00:67:41.639
like a little bit of eat.
The a little bit of eat, the
1041
00:67:41.679 --> 00:67:45.349
way it looks is comparing it to
feed out, it's like it's just my
1042
00:67:45.510 --> 00:67:46.989
it's we it is. Somebody said
You should buy a ledger wall. They
1043
00:67:47.030 --> 00:67:53.190
only cost point zero to eve and
like, Oh, yeah, will you
1044
00:67:53.230 --> 00:67:57.269
look at that way? It comes
to that when I first was doing this
1045
00:67:57.469 --> 00:68:01.420
and I listed up one of my
nft's, I added a zero and I
1046
00:68:01.659 --> 00:68:04.860
sold it for life. Forgot how
much I sold it for, but it
1047
00:68:04.940 --> 00:68:08.139
was too cheap, you know?
Cause, yes, yes, get getting
1048
00:68:08.179 --> 00:68:10.340
used to like this. How many
Zeros you put in? That's right.
1049
00:68:10.380 --> 00:68:13.250
Yeah, you always got to keep
an eye and rushing and your foae mowing
1050
00:68:14.210 --> 00:68:16.210
and you want to sell something real
quick to jump into something else. Yeah,
1051
00:68:16.729 --> 00:68:20.970
you can make a mistake and the
people them people in like, what
1052
00:68:21.050 --> 00:68:24.409
do you call it? I guess
in clubhouse. They're all talking about what
1053
00:68:24.569 --> 00:68:27.960
the project is. Somebody made a
mistake. So if she sometimes you can
1054
00:68:28.039 --> 00:68:30.640
get good deals if you sit by
like some people. A lot of times
1055
00:68:30.680 --> 00:68:32.960
people do that. Yeah, they'll
point out a good project that has a
1056
00:68:33.039 --> 00:68:36.199
mistake somewhere and there of a pricing
mistake. Yeah, and you could see
1057
00:68:36.239 --> 00:68:40.439
somebody, somebody messed up. Yeah, and that hurts and you're hearing the
1058
00:68:40.520 --> 00:68:43.390
other one and yeah, hurts the
floor for sure, because people just started.
1059
00:68:43.430 --> 00:68:46.869
Because the floor, it hurts like
your yeah, your real pocketbook.
1060
00:68:47.310 --> 00:68:50.949
You made that mistake and I made
that mistake one time, but now,
1061
00:68:51.109 --> 00:68:55.550
like when I'm listing something, I
like double check. Yeah, it's like
1062
00:68:55.630 --> 00:68:58.979
a ten times mistake. Zero.
Right, it's the difference between a hundred
1063
00:68:58.979 --> 00:69:01.500
bucks and a thousand bucks. It
could be a big mistake. Yeah,
1064
00:69:01.500 --> 00:69:06.939
because the thing was is I sold. This is when I first got into
1065
00:69:08.100 --> 00:69:11.409
trying to, you know, buy
and sell them than up to flip them.
1066
00:69:11.489 --> 00:69:15.489
Yeah, I bought something just because
I was like I think this could
1067
00:69:15.489 --> 00:69:17.729
do good, right, and I
listed it. I woke up in the
1068
00:69:17.770 --> 00:69:21.010
morning check my email and it was
like it's sold. What you like to
1069
00:69:21.090 --> 00:69:24.680
Queen? I was just crazy,
like yeah, like, I think I
1070
00:69:25.439 --> 00:69:28.800
spent like a hundred or something like
that, because it was really not a
1071
00:69:28.920 --> 00:69:33.840
big artist and he started blowing up
and all the sudden like it's sold,
1072
00:69:33.960 --> 00:69:39.909
it's sold to like crazy, right, almost two thousand sixteen hundred hours,
1073
00:69:39.989 --> 00:69:43.350
right. So I had that eight
and I was like all right, I'm
1074
00:69:43.390 --> 00:69:49.189
gonna buy something's gonna buy something now. And I bought something and then when
1075
00:69:49.189 --> 00:69:54.899
I went to list it, I
added an extra zero. Oh Damn Dude,
1076
00:69:55.659 --> 00:70:00.060
and I was yeah, I was
like man, but uh, butverybody
1077
00:70:00.100 --> 00:70:02.340
else. Yeah, well, it's
it's hard lesson, but it's a well,
1078
00:70:02.500 --> 00:70:05.140
it's a well, it's a deeply
learned lesson, let's put it that
1079
00:70:05.260 --> 00:70:09.569
way. You won't forget. Yeah, I have not been scammed, like
1080
00:70:09.930 --> 00:70:13.210
you know, that's one. You
know that happens a lot in the space
1081
00:70:13.289 --> 00:70:15.250
to when you're new. Yeah,
I could imagine. I don't know.
1082
00:70:15.449 --> 00:70:19.729
I'm just skeptical most shit. I'm
like, I'm not clicking anything unless I
1083
00:70:19.850 --> 00:70:24.159
know. Yeah, that kind of
thing. But on discord, when they
1084
00:70:24.199 --> 00:70:28.039
want to verify you, like,
you know with that, what is it?
1085
00:70:28.800 --> 00:70:31.119
Something bought? Yeah, I never
I'm not going to very verify bought
1086
00:70:31.159 --> 00:70:34.199
thing. Yeah, verify by it. I'm not. I'm not doing that,
1087
00:70:34.399 --> 00:70:36.270
not but at all. For that
Shit. It might be legit,
1088
00:70:36.390 --> 00:70:40.109
but that's a I could do without
it. That's where a lot of people
1089
00:70:40.229 --> 00:70:43.590
get messed up, the newbies that
get onto discord. Yeah, Oh,
1090
00:70:43.630 --> 00:70:45.750
yeah, discords a shit show to
me. I just I have a problem
1091
00:70:45.789 --> 00:70:49.979
with like simplicity and minimalism and discord. Just, Whoa, it's like going
1092
00:70:50.060 --> 00:70:54.539
to a digital jungle. Yes,
yes, especially in really like if you
1093
00:70:54.579 --> 00:70:58.340
ever go to be friends discord and
you've been that one. Yeah, it's
1094
00:70:58.380 --> 00:71:00.380
a show. Guy, to me, this is I'm like, what,
1095
00:71:00.659 --> 00:71:03.140
how could you even read this?
Yeah, yeah, that's wild man,
1096
00:71:03.770 --> 00:71:06.250
so cool. A Dude, I
really appreciate your time. You're, like
1097
00:71:06.289 --> 00:71:09.609
I said, you're always welcome back
here. I usually promote the hell out
1098
00:71:09.609 --> 00:71:12.090
of this for like the next three
or four days and then I start working
1099
00:71:12.130 --> 00:71:15.130
on next week's podcast. Awesome.
A lot of times, like I'm considering
1100
00:71:16.449 --> 00:71:19.960
chopping these in the smaller bits and
putting them up as and FT's maybe on
1101
00:71:21.600 --> 00:71:26.239
object or something like that, where
the low gas fee so off, just
1102
00:71:26.319 --> 00:71:29.760
because I'm curious, like what happens
if you put a fucking podcast in and
1103
00:71:29.880 --> 00:71:33.270
F tea, I mean doesn't matter, not be there for posterity sake a
1104
00:71:33.390 --> 00:71:38.310
thousand years from now. Okay,
yeah, while true, swhere is going
1105
00:71:38.350 --> 00:71:44.270
to be like on Youtube or these
go out to damn itunes, spotify,
1106
00:71:44.829 --> 00:71:48.420
audible, Amazon. Iheart all those
places, all the audio, all the
1107
00:71:48.460 --> 00:71:53.659
listening places, basically audible. Yeah, yeah, strange as I got onto
1108
00:71:53.659 --> 00:71:57.260
audible about a year ago. Me
Too. I love digital books and I
1109
00:71:57.340 --> 00:71:59.939
drive a lot for my job,
so I'm always listening to new shit.
1110
00:72:00.060 --> 00:72:02.850
Well, mostly it's been any te
podcast lately, but that's how I learned
1111
00:72:02.930 --> 00:72:06.850
so fast. That's how you get
uploaded or on boarded to something so quickly
1112
00:72:06.890 --> 00:72:10.409
as if you just put your mind
to it, you watch it. fucking
1113
00:72:10.489 --> 00:72:14.289
five days of youtube videos or binge, listened to hours and hours to podcast.
1114
00:72:15.130 --> 00:72:17.119
So yeah, I'd like having a
just something. Normally I don't even
1115
00:72:17.119 --> 00:72:21.319
turn on the cameras because sometimes the
if you close your eyes and have a
1116
00:72:21.359 --> 00:72:25.640
conversation, it's a slightly different conversation. So I'll test this. When I
1117
00:72:25.680 --> 00:72:27.680
go back to listen to it,
I'll say how yeah, that worked out
1118
00:72:27.720 --> 00:72:30.510
just fine, because a lot of
the people I deal with and work with
1119
00:72:30.630 --> 00:72:34.350
are in the mental health space.
I just give them the option of no
1120
00:72:34.470 --> 00:72:39.270
camera on their side because body issues
and a lot of people have body issues
1121
00:72:39.310 --> 00:72:42.029
they don't want to be seen on
camera at all. Me, I mean
1122
00:72:42.149 --> 00:72:46.500
this is this has been awesome,
like very natural, like and nothing didn't
1123
00:72:46.500 --> 00:72:50.220
seem like awkward. Yeah, yeah, now, you do great and I
1124
00:72:50.260 --> 00:72:54.300
think you'd make an awesome podcast host
of your own. So, you know,
1125
00:72:54.579 --> 00:72:57.500
throw that on another priority pile of
list of things to do too.
1126
00:72:57.659 --> 00:73:00.489
But Man, you've got your SAG
card, you've got a great present presentation
1127
00:73:00.569 --> 00:73:05.569
voice and you're very kind of focused
on what you're speaking about to so it's
1128
00:73:05.609 --> 00:73:09.930
not a lot of stumbling around.
So I think I'd probably heard that in
1129
00:73:10.090 --> 00:73:13.039
the twitter spaces which I reached out
to you. Like, I didn't reach
1130
00:73:13.039 --> 00:73:15.680
out to anybody else than twitter space
because they were kind of boring to me.
1131
00:73:15.199 --> 00:73:18.159
But when you start popping off.
I'm like a guys, something special
1132
00:73:18.279 --> 00:73:21.840
there. So I appreciate you,
man, and keep up all the fucking
1133
00:73:21.880 --> 00:73:26.560
killer work. And remind people.
Do you have a website up yet?
1134
00:73:28.829 --> 00:73:31.029
Just pointed straight on twitter. Okay, I don't have a website right now,
1135
00:73:31.189 --> 00:73:38.430
so go to twitter, metaverse and
ft art and you'll find them.
1136
00:73:38.590 --> 00:73:41.500
Take it. Yeah, let me
just double check that Roquick. I pretty
1137
00:73:41.539 --> 00:73:45.300
sure met it first. And FC
art. Yeah, that's the handle.
1138
00:73:45.500 --> 00:73:49.220
So that's where manic keeps up all
of his current social links. So jump
1139
00:73:49.300 --> 00:73:53.020
in there check out his art.
I'm not also going to put all the
1140
00:73:53.020 --> 00:73:55.810
links down below in the show notes. So if you're clicking around on your
1141
00:73:55.850 --> 00:73:59.090
phone or whatever, you want to
go see some fantastic art by manic,
1142
00:73:59.529 --> 00:74:03.130
click on those links down below and
we'll see you next week at the EMO
1143
00:74:03.289 --> 00:74:15.680
Dojo. FUCKING A and I know
I've been super hyped about the nfts these
1144
00:74:15.760 --> 00:74:20.680
past the three or so episodes,
and I apologize to my longtime listeners who
1145
00:74:20.720 --> 00:74:25.350
don't give a fuck about NFTS and
also to my friends who have been harassing
1146
00:74:25.949 --> 00:74:30.270
to make their creative works into nfts
when they just men don't really feel like
1147
00:74:30.350 --> 00:74:33.390
it. So I apologize for that
and I will catch you up to speed
1148
00:74:33.470 --> 00:74:38.229
on this because there is some drama
on the nft twitter I have to talk
1149
00:74:38.310 --> 00:74:41.460
about. So, in all the
hype I've been talking about for the past
1150
00:74:41.500 --> 00:74:45.939
three episodes, I need to warn
you about the downside of nfts on the
1151
00:74:46.060 --> 00:74:50.899
next episode coming right up. So
I will post this episode up on Monday
1152
00:74:50.899 --> 00:74:57.250
night and hopefully by Thanksgiving, Tuesday, Wednesday or whatever, I will have
1153
00:74:57.449 --> 00:75:01.890
that second episode about NFT's like the
dark side of Nfts, just for some
1154
00:75:02.010 --> 00:75:04.689
balance. All right, cool.
Well, I'm glad you made it.
1155
00:75:05.130 --> 00:75:10.720
Look forward to seeing you on twitter
or whatever. Send me an email if
1156
00:75:10.760 --> 00:75:17.079
you want. John at HMM EMO
dojocom. How simple? All right,
1157
00:75:17.159 --> 00:75:58.449
cool, take care. Bye.
And now back to the wall. The
1158
00:79:56.640 --> 00:80:25.380
the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the the
1159
00:84:56.430 --> 00:85:25.369
the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the the
1160
00:85:28.210 --> 00:85:56.909
the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the the
1161
00:85:59.430 --> 00:87:59.460
the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the the
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00:88:00.899 --> 00:88:29.600
the the the the the the the
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00:88:30.760 --> 00:89:00.539
the the the the the the the
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00:89:01.739 --> 00:89:31.000
the the the the the the the
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00:89:32.640 --> 00:90:09.170
the the the the the the the
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00:90:10.930 --> 00:90:39.590
the the the the the the the
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00:90:41.590 --> 00:91:12.770
the the the the the the the
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00:91:14.289 --> 00:91:43.390
the the the the the the the
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00:91:45.430 --> 00:92:15.329
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00:92:16.439 --> 00:95:21.189
the the the the the the the
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00:95:23.710 --> 00:95:50.090
the the the the the the the
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00:95:54.489 --> 00:96:23.670
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00:96:25.869 --> 00:96:56.529
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00:96:58.130 --> 00:97:25.989
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00:97:27.470 --> 00:97:57.130
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00:97:59.279 --> 00:98:29.020
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00:98:30.020 --> 00:99:00.560
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00:99:01.520 --> 00:99:31.819
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00:99:34.020 --> 00:100:09.350
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00:100:12.029 --> 00:100:39.489
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00:100:41.529 --> 00:101:09.350
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