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What's happening? My friend? It's
johnny motions and this is emo do Joe.
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Well, Holy Hell, man,
I can't leave here for a month
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and then world war three breaks out. I guess I can't take a break
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anywhere. Man, it's been busy. I know I was going to take
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a break. I told you I
was going to take a break in November.
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I never did. So I needed
to take a break in February and
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yeah, feel a little better.
I get stressed out around the holidays.
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I see people, I see old
friends and family and I think I'm not
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doing well enough in life. So
I get back in my little routine come
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January and think I should be doing
better. So I start looking for jobs
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and things like that. I think
I've told you my jobs just kind of
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whack because the thing we sell,
I'm in sales, and the thing we
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sail, the price just keeps plummeting. So if you work on a commission
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in the thing that you sell keeps
plumating, you don't make very much money
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at all and that sucks. And
I'd been telling friends and family about this
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for a while and they're like,
Oh yeah, no, stick it out.
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You know you always jump from thing
to thing, too fast, too
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soon. Well, I heard from
my supervisor the other day. He feels
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exactly the same way I do and
he's about ready to leave. And apparently
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so we're like three other people in
the office, but since I work in
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sales, I'm not in the office
and I don't typically talk a lot of
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Shit at work. So yeah,
apparently they all talk shit about the bosses
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all the time and I just wasn't
wasn't around to hear it. So I
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thought I was the only one felt
like things weren't going so well at work.
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So in that aspect, I guess
I feel a little better now that
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I have others who feel the same
way about work, but that doesn't make
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work any better, it just makes
the situation a little more comfortable because I'm
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not alone. So I have to
find something to do that makes more money
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or stay focused on my hobbies here. So let's update on what we've been
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doing. All the NFT people that
we've interviewed. Man, that's a tough
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racket. So what really looks like? What happened is remember game stop.
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You know, obviously the store and
the stunks. I think a lot of
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those people from Wall Street bets the
reddit thread that the people that missed out
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or lost a bunch of money on
game stock, I'm sorry, Game Stop
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Stock. I think those are the
same people who then came over to you,
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the nft world, and decided that
that was the next place to get
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rich quick. And not talking about
the artist, obviously the artist. Onen't
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you hear about it self included.
You hear that people are spending a bunch
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of money over there on art,
quote Unquote Art, you get excited and
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you want to go participate. So
my heart goes out to the past artist,
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the nft artists I interviewed on the
podcast here and I hope they're doing
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well. I've reached out to a
few of them to see if they wanted
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to come back and they said yeah, but they really hadn't committed to coming
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back and actually do an episode because, you know, things are tough.
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Art didn't sell, didn't sell enough. They weren't able to quit their jobs.
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The dream didn't happen. And I
could get that because I've been in
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rock and roll for a long time, you know, I played music since
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I was a little kid. And
Yeah, everyone wants to be or at
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least back then, everyone wanted to
be a rock star. Then people wanted
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to be, you know whatever,
athletes, pro athletes, and then people
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wanted to be youtubers and twitch streamers. Well, the latest things, everyone
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wants to be an nft star.
Now there's not that much room. There
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is not. You know, only
a few people can be a stars and
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make the big money, and everybody
else that thinks it's the Oh, all
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I have to do is get discovered
it. I don't think it's quite that
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easy. I think a lot of
other influences have to come into play at
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exactly the same time. But obviously
one of those things is persistent. So
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if you're not there the moment the
other influence is coming to play, well,
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you're fucked. So if you're an
artist into NFT's, by all means
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you should keep going, because I
know I am. I'm just not spending
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my life on twitter talking about it. I don't think everything you do has
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to be talked about. You can
do some things that you just don't talk
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about on the Internet, right,
like your work, your projects, things
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like that. We're anything. What
you just bought, what just date?
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Who Cares? Oh, but it
builds community. Yeah, but so does
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doing those things in real life.
Yeah, I don't don't need to bag
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on social media. I don't think
it's bad inherently. I think what people
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claim is the is the bad or
the results of social media is actually the
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results of not doing the other things
in life. Like if you still go
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out and have fun, go to
picnics or whatever the fuck you do,
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go and meet your friends at bars
and go Dann seeing and play pickleball,
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joined Sports Leagues, go to Church. If you're at church, person like
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do those things too. Don't just
be on social media. If you're only
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on the Internet, only shopping on
Amazon and Ebay and then going back over
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to facebook and twitter and instagram and
just that's your holy day old daily schedule.
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That's that's just nuts. And of
course I'm trying not to have my
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life as much nuts. So I'm
making a conscious effort to do more things
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outside and with real people now that
covid is kind of diminished, and that
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means I'm yeah, I'm just working
on things away from the keyboard, frankly.
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So, yeah, I mean because
I do. I share tons about
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my life, obviously on a podcast, but oh my God, like not
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nearly as much as the rest of
my life. Can you imagine? Like
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it just literally like a tip,
not literally, but the tip of an
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iceberg. What I share on a
podcast is just the things I think people
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might find interesting and help them think
differently about the world and themselves, whereas
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the other things I think about,
no, I can't talk about things I
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think about for real for the rest
of my life. Oh my gosh,
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let alone. Just you know,
daytoday, routine boarding stuff like this is
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boring enough. Is just Monday and
I'm just talking about talking about stuff.
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I feel like sometimes, but I
can talk. So to get back to
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it, let me. Let's recap
about what we've been up to. So
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we had the NFT artist. That's
fun. I like encouraging people to do
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art. It's a great outlet have
hobbies. But one of my longstanding kind
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of philosophies is that you don't have
to turn your hobby into fucking money.
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Just relax and have fun. Hobbies
cost money. Spent a little money and
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have a hobby. If it's NFT's
cool, if it's designing and FD's cool.
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Design them and try to sell them, but you know that's the hobby
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you don't. Don't get upset if
you don't make money, because making money
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should not be the goal of a
fun hobby. Same goes for podcasting.
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Man, there's so many podcast to
tell you how to podcast. It's pretty
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easy to figure out how to podcast. It's a lot harder to figure out
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what to talk about or even how
to talk, but with practice you'll get
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good at all of those things.
Making money at a podcasts know why.
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I mean. Don't start a podcast
just to make money. That's like starting
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a band just to make money or
creating an nft just to make money.
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There needs to be effort in your
art, in your creation, otherwise they
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just won't be value and it they'll
be monetary value sometimes. But is that
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all? You just worried about money? I mean that that's a whole different
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conversation. If you just worried about
money in life, this is not the
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podcast for you at all, because
we talked about hobbies and art and mental
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health and things like that. So
money is secondary at best. So have
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a hobby, have fun. And
so the talking thing. Remember, we
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talked about I was going to do
voiceover. So I not going to do
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long form voiceovers for their mention the
reasons I had mentioned. Manly sitting in
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a closet for too long, or
even any kind of space for more than
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a fucking hour. Really long form
audio books, you are sitting there for
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hours until you're done, you know, basically reading a page after page after
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page, and it's not for me. Short form commercials and things like that,
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so I've been hitting up the local
ad agencies and people that do the
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hiring for that moving forward. They're
awesome. See good on my checklist here.
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Whatever I've been talking to, I
feel like I talked to you,
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like I talked to my friends,
but I sometimes forget what I updated each
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friend about and I always fear like
I'm going to repeat myself and sound like
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a senile old person. So we
had talked about voice acting and starting a
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nonprofit revolving around drums. So those
things are all still moving forward. They
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take time when you're poor, not
poor poor, but I mean my job
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doesn't pay much more than the bills. It's one of those kind of month
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to month situations right now. So
when you have to save up for things
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like trademarks and stuff like that,
it literally takes months. You have to
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wait. So the progress is slow
going, but you know persistence will pay
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off and I'm moving forward on the
nonprofit, on the drum thing, of
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which, again, they don't need
to move to a place that I can
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actually play a full real set of
drums or rent a place or, you
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know, have money to rent a
place. The idea will not really work
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that well with electric drums. I
have some of those and maybe I'll just
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start playing just to quote unquote,
start building a community. But anyway,
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yeah, so the voice acting stuff
is moving on, moving along, just
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slowly but sharedly, and the EMO
Dojo, Drum Drum Dojo, I guess
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you call it, Drum Studio,
that's moving forward, as well as the
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nonprofit, because that it's going to
be a nonprofit. And then I heard
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something so pertaining to this show.
I keep wondering what I should do with
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this, because I don't like to
keep sharing more and more about myself.
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Sometimes I just want privacy. And
then what am I going to not have
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a podcast for three months because I
don't feel like I don't have anything that
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I want to share? That would
be dumb. But I noticed since I
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started this podcast years ago, two
thousand sixteen, because I couldn't find any
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cool podcast about mental health. Well, now there are a whole bunch.
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There's a whole bunch of people doing
the same kind of thing. I'm sure
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of it. I don't listen to
him because, well, I don't listen
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to my own podcast either. I
listened to different podcast. Anyway, there's
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tons of other mental health podcast and
I think m like I said, there's
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also podcast to tell you about podcasting. While I was listening to this dude,
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Tanner Tanner Campbell, he has a
good podcast called podcasting sucks, and
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they brought up a really good point, like and I don't know, they
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don't specifically Keya and on it,
but I sure did. When you listen
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to a podcast, do you like
listening to a single person podcast or multiple
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people, and meaning, do you
like to hear one person, just like
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me, just talk? That's odd
to me, or would you prefer to
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hear two people are more having a
conversation, like you're a fly on the
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wall, because those are the kind
I like to listen to. Now,
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when I look at my download statistics
for this particular show, the ones where
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I talk by myself get more downloads. I find that really weird. I
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think you're weird for listening to a
person like me to talk by myself,
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but I love you for it.
You know I love you for it.
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And so anyway, I just if
you have the gumption to let me know
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some way and social media, send
me an email. John at Emo Dojocom
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and let me know. Do you
like single person shows or two person shows?
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And the reason I ask is because
I think I would like to turn
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Emo Dojo into a two person show
for the next season, in that each
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show I interview another mental health podcaster. So I think that would help in
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many ways. For one, I
could help promote them, so you would
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have more interesting things to listen to
and different perspectives to hear. It would
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provide a steady flow of guests because
there's, like I said, there's tons
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of mental health podcast now. Oh
and they're also podcasters, so the chances
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are really high that they have good
Mike, good Internet connection and the show
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will sound, you know, audibly
pleasant. So for those three reasons alone,
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I think that's what I'm going to
attempt, unless I get any pushback,
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but we'll see. Maybe it's because
when I'm alone and I have single,
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single person episodes, I'm talking about
mental health. So maybe that's why
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you guys like those episodes, Barn, because I admit a lot of times
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I'll talk to anybody who will come
on the show and many times those guests
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aren't talking about mental health. They're
just talking about whatever they do. And
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I can see if you tuned into
a mental health podcast and they're just talking
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about, you know whatever. No
offense to any guests, but maybe the
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maybe you're listening the mental health podcast
for mental health reasons. Wow, go
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figure. So anyway, that's where
I'll try. If I don't hear any
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pushback, I'm going to go with
that route. I'll change EMO DOJA for
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I guess there's called this season four, season five, and we'll let it
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rip with multiple two people shows,
me plus a guest, and the guests
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will have their own mental health podcast
and maybe kind of build a quote unquote
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community of Mental Health podcasters that start
to recur on each other's shows so that
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we can continue to make mental mainstream
so people stop saying, Oh, I
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have mental health. That's how fucking
stigmatize a stigmatize. The word mental is.
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If you put it next to the
word health, people think you're sick.
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Nah, people, you've got mental
illness. Mental Health is the thing
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you want. So onward we march, making mental mainstream. All Right,
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so you've probably heard many podcasts in
this stream where I use music without permission,
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which is cool. I like it. But at one point I had
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an entirely different podcast called signal jams, and it was on anchor and it
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was just US talking about music.
Well, one day anchor just deleted the
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whole fucking show with no recourse.
They would respond or anything to emails.
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Nothing. So fuck anchor. I
was pissed at him for a long time.
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But now anchor and spotify. Anchor, the podcasting platform, is owned
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by spotify, so they're together there
in cahoots their one company. spotify now
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lets you do a podcast format called
music plus talk. So you get me
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talking, for example, talk,
talk, doc, and then you get
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to play a song and you can
play as many songs as you want,
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so long as they're from the songs
in spotify as catalog, and I presume
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that the artist gets paid for that
play and so forth. So what's really
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cool? Now I'm going to start
another podcast, like my actual fun hobby,
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where this one will be a hobby
where I help other people spread the
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word about mental health. My True
Passion is music. So I'm going to
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have a blast. I'm starting a
new podcast over on spotify called music talk
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now. I was going to call
it music talk daily, but that was
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a lot of pressure. I'm not
sure I can put out a daily episode.
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And what is daily? Every fucking
day, seven days a week.
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That's too much. But I do
plan to do multiple episodes per week.
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So look for it over on twitter
right now. You can just start tracking
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us. there. You music talk
now. That'll be the show. It'll
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be a blast and actually I'm going
to host it as me, like as
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John Emotions, and if people ask
what the fuck is your name all about,
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I'm going to remind them about this
podcast so that they can know that
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emo do joe exists and that we've
been trying to make mental mainstream for years.
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But that should be a blast.
So I'm going to go over there
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and do that first kind of pilot
episode after I'm done here this. We
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have different themes for different podcast,
for different episodes there on music talk now.
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This one is called best show ever, where I'm going to talk about
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the best show ever July thirteen,
one thousand nine hundred and eighty four at
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the stone in San Francisco, so
that's going to be cool. I'll be
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able to include entire songs from all
the bands that played that night and tell
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a little stories in between each song. Other topics will be like emotions.
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I'll have one episode that's just sad
and I'll expect, you know, play
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several songs that make me super sad
and maybe another to balance it out that
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just songs that make me happy.
To that end, guests, yourself included
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or welcome, to come on and
talk with me about your favorite songs,
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your favorite artist and explain, you
know, why we put these songs together.
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There's a gentleman coming up on the
show who has his own Bruce Springsteen
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podcast and you know we'll find out. We'll have him pick four or five
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of his favorite Bruce springsteen songs and
explain to us what make those his favorite
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Bruce springsteen songs. And even I
wants to even cooler, because I don't
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know how cool Bruce Bruce Springstein guy
is. But one of my favorite aspects
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of the show is there's lots of
people with bands who I can contact that
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have their albums on spotify. So
I'm going to talk with Tony and Johnny
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my dudes from Sacramento, the band
restrained. We're going to have them on
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an episode of music talk now coming
up shortly. That'll be fun to because
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I'll actually get to talk to the
artist about the songs that they created and
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listen to their songs in their entirety. I won't get to interrupt them at
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all. It's the way spotify plus
music plus talks work. Just gotta let
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the song play and then you can
talk again. So it's all going to
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be a blast and I hope you
come around and check it out. So
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that's all I have for today.
Like I've just been laying loan stand out
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of trouble, trying not to get
too caught up into bad news all around
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us, just staying out of the
way as they stay all right. recapping
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from the top, I wish the
NFT artist the best and if you choose
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to get into the nft world,
just realize it's like the music business,
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athletic business, Youtube business. It's
all the same thing. It's just really
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hard to get into and make money. Not a big deal. Don't give
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up. Just that's if you're going
to do it. That's what you're getting
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yourself into. Also moving forward with
the nonprofit EMO Dojo, will eventually be
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a nonprofit, a nonprofit drum studio. Yes, I love that idea.
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In real life, going to be
working in local voiceover stuff, TV commercials
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and things like that for car dealerships, fun stuff. You won't know it.
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I'm not sure I'll be able to
get permission to play it for you,
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but probably as should be a blast. Stay tuned for that. This
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podcasts going to be looking for other
mental health podcasters to be guests. So
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if you know if any, or
you are one, by all means hit
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me up. You're totally welcome to
come on. We'll have a blast making
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mental mainstream and in the next couple
of days check on spotify for my new
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podcast, music talk. Now got
it cool? All Right, see that's
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talk for like twenty minutes, just
talking, talking, but it's still weird
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that, hmm, you would listen
to somebody talk that long. And now
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back to the wall.