Careers for Crazies; Voice Acting, Narration, and How to Embrace Our New Robot Overlords

WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:11.189 As you heard on yesterday's episode, or you'll hear on the next episode if 2 00:00:11.189 --> 00:00:17.149 you're listening backwards, that I'm always looking for ways that people with mental illnesses 3 00:00:17.469 --> 00:00:23.739 or mental disorders can make a living being themselves. So yesterday we talked about 4 00:00:23.739 --> 00:00:27.940 artwork and and FT's. I overly complicated it. I went back and listen 5 00:00:28.019 --> 00:00:31.780 to that episode and it was very lengthy. What I meant to say is 6 00:00:31.940 --> 00:00:35.060 buy some etherium with coin base, put it in your coin wallet, about 7 00:00:35.060 --> 00:00:40.090 a hundred fifty bucks worth, sign up for OPENSEE and uploads your artwork to 8 00:00:40.210 --> 00:00:46.810 open see connect your open sea account with Coin Wallets Voollah. That's what I 9 00:00:46.890 --> 00:00:50.039 meant to say, but it took like fifteen minutes to spit it out. 10 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:55.000 In this episode I'm going to talk a little bit more about something I'm working 11 00:00:55.039 --> 00:01:00.159 on and you'll recall that I'm getting started with voice acting and like book narration. 12 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:06.349 Well, through that process I found another thing called artificial intelligence voices. 13 00:01:06.670 --> 00:01:11.390 So I'm going to kind of connect these thoughts and I hope you can follow 14 00:01:11.430 --> 00:01:18.230 along because again it's another way that people with mental disorders or creative people both, 15 00:01:19.219 --> 00:01:22.340 can have a job that pays decently, that you know, put a 16 00:01:22.379 --> 00:01:26.540 roof of your head and food in your belly and just be flexible around fund 17 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:30.540 yourself, you know what I mean. It's not so regimented and structured that 18 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:34.090 it squeezes the life out of you. So, yeah, on top of 19 00:01:34.209 --> 00:01:38.730 and FT's, I'm pursuing this voice stuff now. The first one is pretty 20 00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:44.129 straightforward, voice acting or voice narration, depending on what you're reading, I 21 00:01:44.250 --> 00:01:47.840 guess. So what I'm starting with? You know, I've just throw a 22 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.280 process of elimination. You have to start somewhere first, and I'm not sure 23 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:55.400 what I'm going to like. So I found a great coach like apparently is 24 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:59.680 world renowned and award winning, and he happens to be here in the same 25 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.109 town I live in, which doesn't really matter because all of this can be 26 00:02:02.150 --> 00:02:07.629 done over skype anyhow. But I started working with him and that's going to 27 00:02:07.709 --> 00:02:13.069 be fun. So I'm working toward narrating non fiction books, like selfhelp books 28 00:02:13.069 --> 00:02:16.099 and business books and things like that, because, well, it seems like 29 00:02:16.139 --> 00:02:20.099 a cool challenge, because you have when you're reading something like that could be 30 00:02:21.259 --> 00:02:23.699 nonfiction. Well, that is nonfiction by by definition, I guess, like 31 00:02:23.780 --> 00:02:29.259 a business book or something you kind of have to understand the concept and read 32 00:02:29.419 --> 00:02:32.530 the kind of through the spine of the story, I guess, to know 33 00:02:32.689 --> 00:02:38.250 how much tension to keep into each sentence, because if you give every sentence 34 00:02:38.449 --> 00:02:40.810 like super emphasis, then there is no emphasis that it's going to wear the 35 00:02:42.250 --> 00:02:45.800 listener out. So I'm going to work on that and I'll let you know 36 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.560 how that progresses. I'm going to do that under my real life name and 37 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.240 you know, just because that could be a real job can turn into a 38 00:02:53.319 --> 00:03:00.990 real thing the next thing I'm working on. It's really cool. So here's 39 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:05.629 the deal. Back in the S, when a record company would sign a 40 00:03:05.710 --> 00:03:09.469 band, only the best bands would get a budget from the record company to 41 00:03:09.590 --> 00:03:14.259 make a music video and then you get on MTV with the hopes of like 42 00:03:14.460 --> 00:03:20.020 being super famous. Well, in a way it turns out it's sort of 43 00:03:20.099 --> 00:03:23.060 like that in the book world. Your book has to have really high hopes 44 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:28.930 of making its money back or a high demand in that sort of thing before 45 00:03:29.729 --> 00:03:32.810 the publishing company will front you the money to pay to have an audio book 46 00:03:32.889 --> 00:03:38.770 made. Now, if you're not a good reader, you I've heard people 47 00:03:38.810 --> 00:03:43.360 like I listened to audio book by a famous drummer that I like well, 48 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.840 he read his own book and apparently he reads like a drummer, which is 49 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:53.800 crazy, because he was reading his own story, he wrote the book, 50 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.189 and yet he couldn't read it. He read it like a drum like you'd 51 00:03:55.189 --> 00:03:59.830 expect the drummer to sound reading a book, frankly, and he was reading 52 00:03:59.909 --> 00:04:02.789 like his last name is mother's last name, as one character per line, 53 00:04:02.830 --> 00:04:09.469 and reading his bandmate by you know name, but every line sounded exactly the 54 00:04:09.509 --> 00:04:13.460 same and it's so hard to like, follow along because he was not a 55 00:04:13.620 --> 00:04:17.540 trained narrator. He was a guy saving some money because he thought people would 56 00:04:17.579 --> 00:04:19.819 want to hear his voice. But the problem is it's not really your voice 57 00:04:19.860 --> 00:04:24.449 you want to hear, it's the continuity of a story and in that sense, 58 00:04:24.490 --> 00:04:28.569 keeping the continuity of a story is really fully imagined in your head. 59 00:04:28.610 --> 00:04:30.689 When you're reading a nonfiction book, you have to imagine there's a story in 60 00:04:30.810 --> 00:04:35.089 there and get into the author's head and kind of delivered in that same way. 61 00:04:35.490 --> 00:04:39.959 So I'm kind of excited about that. On the flip side, though, 62 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:45.120 there aren't, how do I say? There are hundreds of thousands of 63 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:49.279 books in existence that do not have audio books available for them, which is 64 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:55.230 a problem, especially to people without sight. If you can't see, you 65 00:04:55.350 --> 00:05:00.310 can't read. But they love to hear stories. So I'm working with the 66 00:05:00.389 --> 00:05:03.949 company now that's going to take my voice and I have to like read it 67 00:05:04.069 --> 00:05:09.660 and like several different emotions, the same script over and over several different ways, 68 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:15.180 and they're going to convert that into an artificial intelligence voice that could speak 69 00:05:15.220 --> 00:05:18.500 any words. So the benefit of this is then they can go start instead 70 00:05:18.540 --> 00:05:23.889 of having a publisher having to pay a six or seven thousand dollars to have 71 00:05:24.089 --> 00:05:28.410 a book created for an author, these books can be generated for a fraction 72 00:05:28.449 --> 00:05:32.769 of that cost just by feeding the text into a computer that then applies my 73 00:05:33.089 --> 00:05:39.639 ai voice to the book while I'm doing something else. So that turns into 74 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:45.560 residual passive income for me, say, the Ai Voice Creator, and it 75 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:50.269 gets lots of books that were previously unavailable up onto audio bookshelves. So I 76 00:05:50.389 --> 00:05:55.509 think that's a win win and Oh boy what they can do with this voice 77 00:05:55.589 --> 00:06:00.670 technology. So it's just beginning now. So I think it's really fascinating imagine 78 00:06:00.709 --> 00:06:06.540 all how far we've come with visual technology, right from early like steamboat Willie 79 00:06:06.579 --> 00:06:13.779 cartoons to full on Avatar things like nowadays where the full every like in marvel 80 00:06:13.819 --> 00:06:16.699 comics and stuff, where entire scenes are just fully CGI. So we've come 81 00:06:16.779 --> 00:06:21.810 so far in the visual realm, but we've never really applied applied that technology 82 00:06:23.050 --> 00:06:27.810 horsepower to the audio world. And what I'm getting at now is soon, 83 00:06:28.050 --> 00:06:31.250 now that they're kind of targeting a lot of this technology to audio specifically, 84 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:38.240 is we'll be able to take my audio voice, for example. Oh, 85 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.399 in my audio my ai voice is going to be John Emotions. So somewhere 86 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.560 in the world of the uncided people that are buying audio books in the future 87 00:06:46.189 --> 00:06:50.790 will go down and see narrated by John Emotions, and I think that's fucking 88 00:06:50.990 --> 00:06:58.870 dope. Here's what's even cooler. So of course you can imagine, let's 89 00:06:58.870 --> 00:07:00.899 say, just say, a CGI version of me, right, you can 90 00:07:00.939 --> 00:07:04.500 imagine what I look like? You can't because I try to hide what I 91 00:07:04.540 --> 00:07:06.420 actually look like, but I know what I look like. I look like 92 00:07:06.500 --> 00:07:13.420 a regular person, a regular white dude, let's say, and through CGI 93 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:18.089 you could turn my character on screen, mean to be a black guy version 94 00:07:18.129 --> 00:07:21.649 of me, or a Hispanic guy version of me, or an Asian guy 95 00:07:21.689 --> 00:07:26.170 or even a feminine version of me. You could do anything on the screen, 96 00:07:26.209 --> 00:07:29.050 and I'm sure you, as a listener, can imagine that with your 97 00:07:29.089 --> 00:07:31.560 eyes. Sure, of course you can change a CGI character, to mix 98 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.199 and match at will. You know ai does it with deep fakes and things 99 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:42.160 like that already super easy. But now imagine with my ai voice, if 100 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:47.069 they can apply the same technology and all of a sudden I'm speaking mandarin or 101 00:07:47.149 --> 00:07:55.069 I'm speaking Spanish or even ancient Latin fluently and accurately. But it's really just 102 00:07:55.350 --> 00:08:00.060 me, still at home doing nothing, having already submitted the script. That's 103 00:08:00.100 --> 00:08:03.379 how powerful the new software is going to be as we move forward. It'll 104 00:08:03.379 --> 00:08:05.699 be able to take me and turn me into any of those characters. I 105 00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:11.620 can be multilingual on the fly. So here's where it's really interesting to me, 106 00:08:11.699 --> 00:08:16.529 because I'm new to the voice over narrator type industry. Very new, 107 00:08:16.610 --> 00:08:18.730 completely new, brand new. Right, if looks like it's a couple episodes 108 00:08:18.730 --> 00:08:20.730 ago, I just said I'm just going to go do it. Well, 109 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:26.490 there's tons of people in the voiceover industry. They're fucking freaked out, apparently, 110 00:08:26.529 --> 00:08:30.560 about about ai in general. It's going to take their jobs. Oh, 111 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.600 it's coming for a job, as the robots are coming and I think 112 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.799 it's interesting that I'm coming in right now because to me it does. It's 113 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.870 not taking anything from me. I didn't have anything in this industry to begin 114 00:08:41.950 --> 00:08:46.149 with, and I also have the wisdom of being into other industries that were 115 00:08:46.149 --> 00:08:50.549 supposedly going to be taken over by automation and robots and, you know, 116 00:08:50.750 --> 00:08:54.149 easier tools for them, for the masses. One of those is drumming. 117 00:08:54.629 --> 00:08:56.299 I've been drumming since I was a little child, like three years old. 118 00:08:56.940 --> 00:09:03.860 Love it would drums and eventually have electric drums. Now to at some point 119 00:09:03.100 --> 00:09:09.179 in the late s early S, synth drums were coming out, programmable drum 120 00:09:09.259 --> 00:09:11.450 machines that just played the whole song all at once. You didn't need a 121 00:09:11.490 --> 00:09:16.330 drummer and there were people in the public realm and the media or whatever like, 122 00:09:16.490 --> 00:09:18.730 Oh, is this the end of drummers? No, it was not 123 00:09:18.889 --> 00:09:22.570 the end of drummers. I've never, ever to this day, lost the 124 00:09:22.690 --> 00:09:26.519 gig to a synth machine. You know what I mean? And people might 125 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.919 say, well, you don't know about the gigs you didn't lose. I 126 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.240 do, because I know which gigs I try for and I get the gigs 127 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:37.000 I try for as an organic drummer, like a human drummer whatever. There 128 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:43.070 are some great things about electric drums per se. Electric drums, that programmable 129 00:09:43.110 --> 00:09:46.909 drums, I'm not talking about I'm talking about electronic drum sets that look and 130 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:52.269 feel similar to regular wood drum sets and they play the same once you get 131 00:09:52.269 --> 00:09:56.899 used to them. However, you can, you could just, at the 132 00:09:56.019 --> 00:10:00.259 push of a button, change it from a drum set that sounds like led 133 00:10:00.299 --> 00:10:03.700 Zeppelin and then to one that sounds like Duran, Duran and then maybe a 134 00:10:03.820 --> 00:10:07.330 reggae sound. And you know, there's just that's fun. At the touch 135 00:10:07.370 --> 00:10:11.129 of a button changing your drum set. It changes your whole mindset it, 136 00:10:11.809 --> 00:10:16.289 and you know that's cool. But again, that thing didn't take over my 137 00:10:16.450 --> 00:10:20.440 job. That actually helped. So electric drums came and helped a lot of 138 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.720 times I played to what's called the click track, which is a sequencer. 139 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.759 There's the sequence drums, but you know what it's doing? Things that I 140 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.440 don't have limbs to do while I'm playing live. So say my right hand 141 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.480 is over on the ride symbol, my left hand is doing something on the 142 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.269 High Hat and then the snare drum, and my feet are busy with the 143 00:10:37.309 --> 00:10:41.509 bass drum in the high hat petals. I've got no other limbs. Maybe 144 00:10:41.549 --> 00:10:46.149 I want a tambourine shaking in the background. Maybe want a cowbell on every 145 00:10:46.190 --> 00:10:50.139 other beat, maybe I want a different like random salsa beat on a wood 146 00:10:50.179 --> 00:10:54.740 block or something. Well, I can program all of that and still play 147 00:10:54.779 --> 00:11:00.019 the drums. So they killed. They coexist together really nicely and I think 148 00:11:00.059 --> 00:11:05.009 in the same way that's the thing that many existing and former voice artists are 149 00:11:05.049 --> 00:11:09.529 kind of missing, is that if you embrace the technology you can, you 150 00:11:09.570 --> 00:11:13.730 can make it work with your existing set up, whatever you're doing now. 151 00:11:13.809 --> 00:11:18.240 It could enhance it. I don't know if you have apple plus TV, 152 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.639 where I don't know what the fuck apples doing with the names of their products 153 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.039 these days, but anyway, apple has a channel where they play TV shows. 154 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.840 They have original series and whatnot. You can get it usually for a 155 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.590 year or so if you buy a device like a laptop or something. So 156 00:11:33.669 --> 00:11:35.629 you might already have it and just didn't try it out. There's several good 157 00:11:35.669 --> 00:11:41.309 shows on there, Ted Lasso, etcetera, etc. But the one I 158 00:11:41.389 --> 00:11:43.870 was interested in there's one call with the producer, the music producer, Mark 159 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:48.539 Ronson. I think it's called see the music something like that, and he 160 00:11:48.700 --> 00:11:54.139 did a really cool episode about auto tune. I don't know if you know 161 00:11:54.179 --> 00:11:58.340 much about how music is produced or if you've heard the term auto tune before, 162 00:11:58.940 --> 00:12:01.370 but I'll try to explain it the best I can. There there's songs 163 00:12:01.409 --> 00:12:07.049 out there by like share. If you believe in love, where does that 164 00:12:07.169 --> 00:12:09.330 one part where she hits the chorus where you do? Do you believe in 165 00:12:09.490 --> 00:12:16.240 it? Tweaks the note a bit. That's auto tune and also the sort 166 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:22.519 of fake sound some pop artist like no fense, but like pop artists like 167 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:28.159 Brittaney Spears, use autotune, not in that note tweaking way but to actually 168 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.629 smooth out of voice. When her voice was a little flat or she couldn't 169 00:12:31.629 --> 00:12:35.350 quite hit a certain note. Autotune will help nude your notes into place, 170 00:12:35.669 --> 00:12:39.629 so it makes it sound more perfect. However, the human ear still here's 171 00:12:39.750 --> 00:12:45.100 something slightly robotic, so it sounds a little off. In the case of 172 00:12:45.139 --> 00:12:48.980 Pop music and people like Britney Spears, it sounds very polished and kind of 173 00:12:48.980 --> 00:12:54.980 almost METALLICI that's because it's going through autotune and I think that's really how the 174 00:12:56.100 --> 00:13:01.409 inventors of autotune proper that you know, the brand name of software. Originally 175 00:13:01.570 --> 00:13:07.210 intended it to be used like to correct slightly off vocal performances, and then 176 00:13:07.289 --> 00:13:09.850 people like share, I think she was one of the first to use autotune 177 00:13:09.889 --> 00:13:16.000 specifically to tweak the note intentionally to a different octave within the bars that she 178 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:22.919 was already singing. And so this isn't to be confused with other vocoder kind 179 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:24.960 of sound effects. Like one of my favorites is what I call the robot 180 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:31.669 sound, like from the old s rap Egyptian lover or intergalactic from the Beastie 181 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.029 Boys, that kind of robodi sound. There's tons of bands, Mr Roboto, 182 00:13:35.590 --> 00:13:39.070 all that stuff that I kind of like that it's kind of fun, 183 00:13:39.789 --> 00:13:43.860 but that's not autotune. Autotune is, you know, the thing I just 184 00:13:43.940 --> 00:13:48.820 described. It's where it tries to fix vocal performances that are not perfect or, 185 00:13:48.899 --> 00:13:52.100 in the case of share, she uses it to tweak right there. 186 00:13:54.379 --> 00:13:56.570 And here's the trip. Here's how autotune came to be. It's there's a 187 00:13:56.649 --> 00:14:05.850 software that autotune is based on that the originator developed to measure underwater caves and 188 00:14:05.970 --> 00:14:11.720 valleys and mountains through like a sonar take technology. So what it's doing is 189 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.919 it's reading saying out waves as they bounce back. It can map ocean floors 190 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.679 and, you know, depressions, volcanoes, all the things that are on 191 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:26.509 the ocean floor that we can't see. The original software would go under water 192 00:14:26.629 --> 00:14:30.389 and just shoot out the sonar and map the entire ocean floors. That's how 193 00:14:30.429 --> 00:14:33.990 we have maps of ocean floors. Well, what autotune doing? The autotune 194 00:14:35.029 --> 00:14:41.500 software, it kind of evolved from that, is basically emulating the caves and 195 00:14:41.539 --> 00:14:48.980 valleys in your throat. So imagine this now, if it knows the caves 196 00:14:48.019 --> 00:14:52.809 and valleys by Ai Algorithms. Now, in the future, check this out. 197 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:58.210 It will literally I vision a day in two years from now tops, 198 00:14:58.490 --> 00:15:03.610 where you can go somewhere and have a laser scan of your throat that can 199 00:15:03.649 --> 00:15:11.399 be read into a autotune type of machine and give you a perfect profile of 200 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.679 your voice that you can then tweak visually and see what the different tweaks sound 201 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.360 like on the screen before you apply them and then, of course, save 202 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:20.750 those different models. But what I'm saying, what I'm getting at now, 203 00:15:20.750 --> 00:15:26.230 is that that technology is what they'll be able to use to make my you 204 00:15:26.309 --> 00:15:33.070 know, White American sounding voice sound like an appropriate Latin American voice, Asian 205 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:37.860 language Voice, Europe, you know differently European accents and things like that, 206 00:15:37.980 --> 00:15:43.340 or their specific languages. It's not just the words they're saying, which was 207 00:15:43.419 --> 00:15:48.100 kind of easy for a machine to translate words. Now put the actual accents 208 00:15:48.220 --> 00:15:54.649 and sound will sound authentic, because then they could take voice maps of people 209 00:15:54.690 --> 00:16:02.330 from those native country languages visually in software and morph them with my voice map 210 00:16:02.529 --> 00:16:07.120 from here, meanwhile changing the words so it will literally sound like in a 211 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.399 here's the hope that I can turn johnny emotions in this weird little character that 212 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.720 you hear all around the world in different circumstances. Like you're inter in Brittany 213 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.389 and you call up a company and you here I'm on the voice answering machine, 214 00:16:19.429 --> 00:16:25.429 or you're in a subway in Atlanta and you hear the voice overhead telling 215 00:16:25.470 --> 00:16:27.230 you to get off the train at a certain stop. You know, just 216 00:16:27.350 --> 00:16:33.259 like that. Not because I want to hear my voice everywhere, but because 217 00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:37.059 I want this recurring revenue stream. Could you imagine just getting pennies every time 218 00:16:37.100 --> 00:16:41.379 your voice is played or heard on those kind of systems in those different countries 219 00:16:41.419 --> 00:16:44.179 around the world. So I think if you get in now and get in 220 00:16:44.299 --> 00:16:47.809 early, you might be able to build a brand for yourself with your voice. 221 00:16:48.210 --> 00:16:52.250 And I'm telling you, if you've got mental illnesses or a mental disorder, 222 00:16:52.850 --> 00:16:57.210 it's pretty easy to sit in a padded room with the microphone and Rant. 223 00:16:57.769 --> 00:17:02.039 So it might be the perfect job for you. But one last thing 224 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:07.079 on the autotune, and especially with what Ronson showed on his on a series. 225 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.519 was what makes it cool, because I didn't think autotune was cool. 226 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:12.720 I was to I kind of like the share song pretty cool. I don't 227 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:17.470 like this the production of Britney Spears music. Much I love Brittany, I 228 00:17:17.509 --> 00:17:21.190 just don't like the production of her old music because of the autotune. But 229 00:17:21.349 --> 00:17:25.349 when he brought it up with some new artist like tea pain where they crank 230 00:17:25.470 --> 00:17:29.670 that fucker up all the way and now they're they're really just fucking with auto 231 00:17:29.750 --> 00:17:34.420 tune as a new form of art. So I think that's cool because it's 232 00:17:34.420 --> 00:17:38.019 progressive and it's breaking new ground and it's using a tool in a way that 233 00:17:38.099 --> 00:17:42.059 it wasn't intended to use much in the way that Jimmy Hendrix or Eddie Van 234 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:45.089 Halen, use the guitar and the ways that you're not supposed to play it. 235 00:17:45.490 --> 00:17:51.369 Tom Morello, you guys Bella Fleck on the base. Yeah, I 236 00:17:51.490 --> 00:17:55.210 think there's something to be said about that, because vocalist don't have a lot 237 00:17:55.250 --> 00:17:59.519 of options with the MIC, but with the not going to think through a 238 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.400 fuzz pedal or distortion, sometimes distortion, or sometimes you'll get that old telephone 239 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.359 sound or just some cheesy cliche kind of sounds. But one auto tune came 240 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:12.150 around. You can adjust autotune to your own desire in the studio. So 241 00:18:12.269 --> 00:18:15.109 you want it set on low, medium, high. It goes like from 242 00:18:15.190 --> 00:18:18.309 one to ten. Tea Paying cranks is up to ten. So he gets 243 00:18:18.349 --> 00:18:22.750 that wabble up our will. I can't even imitate it because I don't have 244 00:18:22.789 --> 00:18:26.670 auto tune right here. So yeah, I just because as a drummer I've 245 00:18:26.670 --> 00:18:29.660 always had these extra toys, now electronic toys, to play with, and 246 00:18:29.740 --> 00:18:33.140 I think it's only fair that vocalist have toys like auto tune, especially if 247 00:18:33.140 --> 00:18:36.339 they're going to break them and use them in the ways they weren't meant to 248 00:18:36.380 --> 00:18:40.940 be played with. That makes them artist in my mind, and quickly the 249 00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:44.170 other industry I used to work in that got was going to get taken over 250 00:18:44.210 --> 00:18:48.329 by robots or the masses or the new tech tools was graphic design. So 251 00:18:48.450 --> 00:18:52.970 I've been a graphic designer now for maybe twenty five years. Long Time, 252 00:18:55.130 --> 00:18:56.720 and we started back in the day where we actually had to cut and draw 253 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.319 and do things with our hands, and then the computers came on. So 254 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:04.559 we've been with the computers and illustrator and programs like that since they've been around, 255 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:11.150 and because of that we've always had to think of things in our mind 256 00:19:11.349 --> 00:19:15.430 and start with the blank piece of paper. There weren't programs like Canva, 257 00:19:15.269 --> 00:19:21.029 where most of the parts you could need to make something that passes are readily 258 00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:26.819 available. So basically, if you using CANVA, in my mind you're you're 259 00:19:26.819 --> 00:19:30.619 more of an assembler than a graphic designer. You're assembling existing parts. If 260 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:34.779 you want, they'll give you a template to start with. Graphic artists start 261 00:19:34.779 --> 00:19:40.569 with nothing except a burning desire and image in their mind that they have to 262 00:19:40.690 --> 00:19:47.289 get out into the world. And most graphic designers are very particular about things 263 00:19:47.329 --> 00:19:56.519 like contrast, the illusion of movement, proportion, line weight distances, things 264 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:02.599 like symmetry, of course, and after when you do it year after year, 265 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:07.000 you it's intuitive. It's also intuitive to spot bad art when you see 266 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:12.789 something just been clumsily assembled. So again, I've never lost any any work 267 00:20:14.509 --> 00:20:18.829 to somebody that uses Canva, for example, because they just they it's not 268 00:20:19.069 --> 00:20:22.500 set up for a person who think originally. Like when I designed something, 269 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:27.700 corporate logo or something, I literally sit with the client and I let them 270 00:20:27.740 --> 00:20:33.460 talk for a while and I listen and I try to get in their head. 271 00:20:33.220 --> 00:20:37.569 Nine Times out of ten I nail at the first try. It's but 272 00:20:37.730 --> 00:20:41.329 well, you know, the core design and then we might tweak the font, 273 00:20:41.450 --> 00:20:45.210 maybe your something's try something out, but yeah, and it's all original. 274 00:20:45.369 --> 00:20:49.880 Just comes from conversation that sparks an idea in my mind and normally I 275 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.240 haven't done in about an hour after I leave and then I sit on it 276 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.039 for about a week and pretended like hey, yeah, I got it, 277 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.359 you know, I finally took me a while, but no, it's a 278 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.430 flash of genius. It comes out really quick and then I bill for longer 279 00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:08.069 amount of time. That's just the way it works. But I wouldn't get 280 00:21:08.309 --> 00:21:14.349 paid what I get paid to do this work if I was simply assembling parts 281 00:21:14.390 --> 00:21:18.029 that already existed. My clients could have done that themselves, and a lot 282 00:21:18.069 --> 00:21:19.460 of them do do that themselves. They come for me for the things that 283 00:21:19.660 --> 00:21:26.859 make their business or their brand original, and that's a blast. It's not 284 00:21:26.980 --> 00:21:29.740 a blast to do that work full time, because then it takes all the 285 00:21:29.819 --> 00:21:33.650 fun out of it. You feel like you're just become a commodity. And 286 00:21:33.089 --> 00:21:37.769 of course you need the flexibility to go be free and feed your mind with 287 00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:41.609 new things to remain creative so that when you're asked to do a new creative 288 00:21:41.609 --> 00:21:45.210 project, you have that new found creativity each day. So yeah, if 289 00:21:45.210 --> 00:21:48.960 you're a voice actor, because somehow you found this episode because it's in the 290 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:53.319 key words or in the transcription. Yeah, man, don't worry about don't 291 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:57.039 worry about it, Dude. Just get or do that debt. Just adapt. 292 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:00.119 Like I don't think you fear the technology. I think you just fear 293 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.990 change. It's going to be competition, but the AI is not who you 294 00:22:04.029 --> 00:22:08.430 should worry about. What you should worry about is the entire industry being pushed 295 00:22:08.470 --> 00:22:14.230 into your closets at home, because now everybody in their uncle can compete with 296 00:22:14.309 --> 00:22:17.180 you. So don't worry about the machines, worry about the new humans. 297 00:22:17.220 --> 00:22:18.660 There are a lot of great new voices I've heard coming up. But I'm 298 00:22:18.660 --> 00:22:22.660 not talking about myself because I don't I don't rate myself. I don't know 299 00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:25.500 what the fuck I'm doing. But I hear in a lot of new voices 300 00:22:25.579 --> 00:22:29.940 coming up on podcast I listen to about the voice acting industry. And if 301 00:22:29.980 --> 00:22:33.890 you're an established voice actor, new actors are who should be concerned with. 302 00:22:33.450 --> 00:22:37.170 And if you're out there with the facade like helping them and then charging them, 303 00:22:37.529 --> 00:22:41.170 you know, exorbitant amounts of money to produce a demo, that's not 304 00:22:41.210 --> 00:22:45.200 going to work. That's not really helping them. Passive, aggressive much. 305 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.599 Yeah, so my suggestion was, I mean, I don't know, don't 306 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:55.079 copy me, but like you could literally create a second fictional character and go 307 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.430 dabble into the AI world, make yourself an AI voice and see if you 308 00:22:59.470 --> 00:23:02.950 can generate some recurring income so you can just go sit on the beach. 309 00:23:03.230 --> 00:23:04.470 You know, you might not make a fortune, but you'll make enough to 310 00:23:04.509 --> 00:23:08.750 cover your expenses and like, live a normal life, mental illness or not. 311 00:23:10.990 --> 00:23:14.099 Man, I realize I can talk a long time about nothing. Sometimes 312 00:23:15.619 --> 00:23:19.059 that's cool and you can listen to me talk about nothing for a long time. 313 00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:23.019 I'm proud of you for that. All right, so you probably hearing 314 00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:26.099 this on Friday if you're up to it. If you're up on it, 315 00:23:26.529 --> 00:23:30.569 this is this will be there Friday morning for you. I hope you have 316 00:23:30.690 --> 00:23:33.890 a hell of a weekend. And I got to talk to a couple people 317 00:23:33.890 --> 00:23:37.329 on social media real quick. So I want to interview two people in particular 318 00:23:37.569 --> 00:23:42.640 on my twitter account before I shut those down for the holidays or until the 319 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:45.519 holidays or whatever. Sometimes I like to check in out Christmas and see if 320 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.720 the world's falling apart or see if there's general sense of joy and good tithings 321 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:52.640 anyway. So I'm going to jump off for a little bit, off of 322 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.630 twitter and facebook, after find a couch. I got to use market place 323 00:23:57.670 --> 00:24:00.710 to find a counter quick but yeah, the next several days a plan on 324 00:24:00.789 --> 00:24:03.430 setting those down tipporarily. You know, I'm not deleting them. It's not 325 00:24:03.470 --> 00:24:07.190 a big deal. I just want to let you know. If I don't 326 00:24:07.470 --> 00:24:10.980 apply or respond through social media's because I'm not really there, you'll have to 327 00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:15.779 email me, John at Emo Dojoe, or you can just call and leave 328 00:24:15.819 --> 00:24:19.660 a message old school style. That is four hundred five, four, four 329 00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:23.289 oh three thirty three hundred. You can also send the text to them, 330 00:24:23.289 --> 00:24:42.799 number right on, right at all. And now back to the wall.