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It's only and now it's online Bible
this stylecom emotions, Bible style. Bam,
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dog days of August rolling right along. I appreciate you. Thanks for
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being a new listener. I'm johnny
emotions and this is the johnny emotions show.
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So I also run a different show
called bipolar style, and part of
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that offshoot of that, I guess
would be the fan club, so to
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speak, if you're using music industry
terms. I started a slack channel.
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I pointed my domain name, bipolar
Partycom to that slack channel and there are
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people there now that we talk and
commiserate about our issues, our mental health
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issues specifically, and many of them
wanted to share their voices through the podcast
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medium, which is awesome. So
today we're going to be like a fly
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on the wall at a bipolar party
podcast where various people share about their different
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struggles they've been going through. This
week this particular segment is Brian from North
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Carolina sharing some issues he's had regarding
recent divorce and separation from his children.
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So I hope you enjoy it.
There's another one coming up right after that
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and and then a Monday we'll get
back to some regular rants and raves probably
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not so mental health related. Cool, cool. Hope you having a great
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weekend and I'll hit you on the
back side of this episode. Joe,
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join the Party. ADD BIPOLAR PARTYCOM
welcome back to the bipolar party. I'm
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here with Brian, holly and Becky
and I'll let you each introduce yourselves and
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tell us a little bit about how
your week was going and whether or not
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you would like to share more later. So let's start with Brian. Hey,
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my name's Brian, I'm my I
had a pretty crappy week, but
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I would like to share later.
Awesome. Thanks, Brian Holly, I
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had an okay week. It's been
it's been getting back on my medication,
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so kind of just researching a lot
of mental health stuff. So it's been
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a very eye opening week, but
overall it's been okay. It's not a
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lot I need to share. Okay, we'll have some time if you want
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to share after after Brian's done,
and see if becky wants to share.
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Thanks. Hey, Becky, what's
up? Hey, I'm becky and my
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week is been kind of up and
down and I will totally shared today.
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Awesome. If bicky's voice sounds familiar, Vicky hosts the podcast that B word,
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which focus is on bipolar and borderline
and the beauty of being such a
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just a bitching person in general.
I'm the fourth person in this square circle.
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My name is John. I've had
a crappy week and I will share.
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So thanks. Let's get started.
Let's start with you, Brian.
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What would you like to share today? Well, I've been divorced for about
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six months and it was a shot
getting divorced. It was hard on me.
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But now I got a phone call
it yesterday that my ex wife has
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got remarried two weeks ago and I
didn't know that she was even dating anybody.
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And I know some people it might
sound ridiculous that, but there's a
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morning process that you have to go
through when you get divorced and I just
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it just hurt and I last night
I felt like my life was over.
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I had suicidal thoughts. I I
don't know, I just I want to
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cry now. You can cry as
much as you want, Brian. Well,
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it's like my Med's won't let me. Yeah, just, but it
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does stop the hurt. That's all
for now. Thanks, Brian. I'll
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respond, Brian, because, well, I've been through that situation. And
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although we didn't go through the quote
unquote rules at the top of the session
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here to the listeners, basically we
try to respond with what we call eye
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language, I. Statements. So
I want to reflect back to Brian my
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experiences. I'm not going to try
to fix his experiences, but in this
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case, Brian, we've talked about
this on the slack channel offline together a
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bit, but I was divorced she's
probably fifteen years ago and I've experienced a
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lot of the things you're going through
right now. It's the remarried married part
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so quickly seemed like such a stab
in the back to me because it seems,
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it just seemed like to me that
nobody can fall in love in six
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months. That means you fucking plan
this shit earlier and I'd been duped.
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That's what it felt like to me. It probably feels like that too many
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people because you simply just don't I
guess it's possible, I mean you could
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find somebody and fall in love in
a day and then run off to feed
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you or something, but when,
when you live a basic American life,
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wrapped up in your normal routine,
it's hard to find somebody to fall in
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love with them. When somebody does
it and gets married within a six month
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period, it just seems like there
was some shenanigans happening beforehand. And of
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course, who are you to go
tell the kids? Hey, your mom
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playing this. See, it was
a trap. You know, they're little
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kids. They're not going to believe
it. It's inappropriate to tell them,
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but you know it, dude,
eventually they will find out everything. They're
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always going to be your kids.
They're clearly old enough to know who their
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dad is. It doesn't matter who
they live with. But I just remembered
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one of the frustrating things that I
encountered was that, why aren't my kids
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sticking up for me? Why aren't
they saying anything? These are my kids.
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I know they love me, I
know I love them. But then,
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you know, someone finally reflected back
to me that will dude. You
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move a lot. They can't stay
with you. They have to stay with
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their mom. They're just trying to
make their own lives as peaceful as possible.
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They're not going to bite the hand
that feeds it. So as like,
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okay, okay. So that kind
of satisfied my why aren't they sticking
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up for me? Bit and so
it turned out to be true, like
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ten years later, like they're now
off to college and doing those type of
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things, but we hang out frequently
and they know all of the truth.
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So I hate to say, dude, things will get better in ten years,
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but I know they'll get better because
I've seen it. And it's not
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just me. I've seen other because
people used to tell me, like an
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older dudes would tell me this when
I was back in your spot, and
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I didn't it wasn't that I didn't
believe them, I just didn't care.
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I was so hopeless and so out
of faith, out of everything, that
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just didn't matter to me. I
just didn't want to live without my kids
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in my life, but the thought
of them being alive on the planet and
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existing kept me waking up each day
after that. So there's tons of dudes
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like us that are dad's that have
been pulled away from our kids that feel
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the same way as you. So
I have lots of empathy for you.
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Man, if I can give you
a hug from California to North Carolina,
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I would. Yeah, that's a
big hug. I swore to myself that
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I would keep my kids out of
it and not bad mouth their mom or
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try to find out details on the
marriage or, like, I have so
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many questions, like I want to
I want to know things. You know,
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you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I want to know. How
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long did you how long did you
a date? You know, where did
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you meet? Where did you meet
this person? I don't know. Just
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so many questions and I think I
feel like when when you're in those situations,
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then you don't have those answers in
your mind just goes to the responsible
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plays right, like your mind just
goes to me, like the worst kid
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area, because it might not like
it might not be that in cities.
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I'm I'm the exact same way,
like I think worst case scenario all the
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time. And like John, like
I think you're right, like you might
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be able to meet someone afterwards and
fall in love really quickly, but that's
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that's kind of crazy. So you
will want to know those answers so your
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mind doesn't just spin. Somebody brought
up. Sorry, go ahead, Brian.
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Well, I feel jealous and I
I don't know. I shouldn't feel
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jealous, like it makes me want
to run out and find somebody. It's
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not that easy. It's hard.
That is a good cure, though.
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As it turned out, when I
first got divorced, my wife was the
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one that left. I still waited
a year, consciously because I did not
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want a rebound relationship. I'm not
that good at relationships anyway, so I
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didn't want the extra layer of well, what if this is just a rebound?
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So I waited and man, the
moment I found somebody else to date,
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or little, I mean specifically it
was having sex with somebody new.
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That was exciting, I'm like,
Oh Shit, Oh what this is?
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Oh, never mind, I think
I could do this divorce thing. And
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I'm not trying to be callous,
but that really is how it how it
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worked like once, because I was
not a cheater kind of person. I
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wasn't into that. I just I
like being with one person. It's too
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much to think about other relationships.
But man, once I once literally found
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somebody else to have sex with them, everything changed. But then I had
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to process other feelings of guilt,
like Oh well, now I'm fucking this
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other person and and I'm picking up
my kids tomorrow for the weekend, and
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it just there's different feelings. But
breaking that jealousy feeling was important, but
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not not so important where I would
just go chase it around, you know
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what I mean? HMM and Grat
jet. The jealousy is valid. Dude,
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there's another person with your kids,
because I kept thinking about that on
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my God art like would I be
jealous if I had my kids, like
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if my wife just left me with
some other dude and I still had my
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kids in my house and my car
and the life that I had? What
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I'd be jealous? Man? I
was like no, actually, I don't
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think so. It is the kids
that I'm jealous about. It's like I'm
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jealous I'm missing out on the days
and the weeks, in the months and
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years of my fucking kids lives for
without explanation. And back to your point
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about why? Why? Why?
I finally relieve the strain of that once.
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I think was like a person at
my dbs, a group, who
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is like a monk, would call
his Buddhist type person, and he said
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you don't ask why, just ask
how. The answer is in the how.
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I'm like, Huh, well,
that's much easier to find out,
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and because you can prevent in many
ways the how from happening again, but
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you'll never be able to prevent somebody
else's why from happening again. HMM.
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How are you feeling today anyways,
like right now, because you mentioned you
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were feeling a bit suicidal last night. You feel like a little better?
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Yeah, I'm not. I'm not
be on suicidal today. That's good,
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because it's hard to say. You
sound, you know, reasonable in your
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voice and relative to the other times
we've spoken, you sound upbeat, but
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I know I sound up beat most
of the time and I've been fucking super
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miserable lately. So for anybody new
to the mental health game, and if
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you hear people talking like this,
sometimes we're actually very sick at the moment.
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We just don't sound like it because
we're used to dealing with this and
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we have to put on this act
when we go in public. So we
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can't really diminish anybody's feelings. And
if someone says they're feeling suicidal, just
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take it seriously, like ask them
how they're really feeling. Not Trying to
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patronize you right now, Brian,
or anything, but that's serious and we
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care about you. So can I
can I say a couple things in regards
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to what you said, of course, what you said about being jealous of
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your kids I don't know if I
was right or wrong and saying this,
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but she didn't do it anyway,
but I told her because I have three
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girls, and I told her,
I said, if you start dating somebody,
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I want to know about it,
because I want to know if another
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man's bent around my around my girls. Well, she didn't tell me and
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I might have been wrong and saying
that, and now she's married and somebody
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else is living in the same house
with my girls and it makes me jealous.
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It makes me feel like, oh, they got a new daddy,
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you know. Yeah, and sure
se's probably better than I am. NOPE,
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Andy, they do not love him
more, do they don't even know
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the guy that much. Yeah,
you are. You are in their DNA
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right since day once, since they
popped out. There's the smell, the
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aura, all of that stuff.
You're their dad, dude. You Jealousy
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is valid. I'm not sure asking
a woman to inform you of her dating
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choices. Is Everything work out?
I felt the same way. I felt
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like I had a right to know
what was going on. Apparently the courts
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don't care about our right so to
think. We know, we should know
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those things. But yeah, the
everything you're saying is so valid we should
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just do a whole podcast series about
dad's with mental illnesses being separated from their
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kids. That's that's how pervasive it
is. It's horrible. Sure, yeah,
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sorry, sorry, women, didn't
mean to leave you out of the
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conversation right there. It's fine,
man, that it's just so tough here,
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Brian, just add a little levity
to that. So I eventually came
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around to the idea like, okay, fine, but my ex had started
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dating my best friend from work.
It's not it would been a plan from
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like a year and a half or
two years prior. Put all the pieces
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together and like, you guys suck
ass. So I'm trying to take the
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high road, right, and the
high road is bumpy as hell. The
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high road is the toughest fucking road
to take, man. So they,
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you know, snarkily sent me an
invite to their wedding, you know,
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and I'm like, you know what, far right, I'm fucking going to
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your wedding and you know what,
I'm bringing my twenty year old girlfriend with
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me. How about that? I
was like thirty five and I found a
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twenty year old girlfriend on craigslist.
So we're like, yeah, we're fucking
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going. So and they had a
Goddamn a kiss cover band play at their
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wedding. I'm like, this is
absurd. Am I on a real life
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or is this a set up?
What the fuck is that going on in
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here? And then they invited my
mom. What do you think my mom
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said? He guesses. Instead,
my mom sat at the bride's table with
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no family and her new husband's family. Oh, and I'm and then the
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aunt, the sister, gets up
and gives a speech, dude, in
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front of three hundred people. Well, I'm glad that Tony is now here
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to take care of the kids,
because they haven't always had a man in
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their life. And I'm like,
I'm sitting right fucking here, ha ha
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ha, dude, I've been through
a lot with that bullshit. I mean,
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I you, I would be one
of the guys cheering for Oj I
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was so mad back of the day. I'm like, are you fucking kidding
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me? And like I you know, he might have did it, but
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I don't care. Sometimes you just
get that fucking points like, Oh my
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God, you guys are going to
make me kill somebody. So I never
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ended up doing it, fortunately.
And then I started channel all that energy
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inward and then I want to kill
myself because I'm like, well, fuck
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if, if they effectively replaced me
and surgically removed all the pictures of me
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from their house, I'm just I'm
pointless, I'm useless, I'm just a
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paycheck, and I think, I
think I'm gonna I like what you said
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about what's your Buddhist friends said.
Don't think of the why, I think
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of the how. Yeah, and
that's so. I don't you know what
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the how are? The mistakes I
made or and or just things that happened.
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They might think that not everything that
happened is your fault, Dude.
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Right, mistakes can be made on
every side of the equation, and that's
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that's some good star warship right there. Y's Yoda. I think star wars
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is mostly ripped off of rights religious
literature. But yeah, going back to
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dating again. No offense, holly, but I want to turn. I
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want to trade my ex wife and
for two four, two twenty year olds.
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That would cure your current feeling,
for sure. They would change you
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gain. I'll tell you what.
All right, man, if did you
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few, you get enough? What's
that? That's a damn good band aid
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for the situation. Yeah, yeah, I'm done. I appreciate your share,
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Dude. It's bold and brave and
even a days just share those kind
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of things with the public. And
you know that this goes out to the
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public and you could use a pseudonym, a screen name or something else,
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but you use your real name,
Brian, so that's awesome. You're brave,
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dude. I appreciate you. Thanks
for sharing. I'm an open book.
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Yeah, man, Brian's going to
start his own podcast shortly called bipolar
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belief. Yes, we'll track him
and promote I meant. I meant to
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try to try to do a test
recording this weekend, but this happened and
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I've been, you know, process. I just I just shared everything I've
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been feeling. So I can't.
I can't do it. You'll ye,
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understandably. Yeah, and you'll feel
better in a couple hours to just having
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that weightlifted off, knowing that it's
out into the world that you have support,
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that we believe you, you're validated. It means a lot when you
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go out to the world feeling like
that. HMM, that's cool, man.
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Thanks. Brian's like the East Coast
Conservative version of me. It's kind
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of neat and you can see how
well we get along. We don't argue
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politics or anything like that. HMM, cool man. Okay, so,
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Becky, you said you definitely had
a share. You want to go?
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Did I say I definitely had a
share? Well, let's check the instant
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replay. My Week is then kind
of up and down and I will totally
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share. Today sees joys. Excuse
me,